NYLefty Posted August 3, 2023 Report Posted August 3, 2023 Hey where are all those flag draped all American patriots who were going to show up by the 100s of thousands??? All I saw were Lock Him Up and Trump 20to 24 yrs signs ???. Oh wait that's right according to some of our resident rightwingdingalings here they "Lay and Weight" for the right moment to spring into action ??? Quote
NYLefty Posted August 3, 2023 Report Posted August 3, 2023 Watching Rachel Maddow on MSNBC and she's giddy with excitement. Love her?? Quote
robosmith Posted August 3, 2023 Report Posted August 3, 2023 The Boss and His Botched Coverup Quote The ex-President now stands accused not only of absconding from the White House with “hundreds” of secret documents that he then sought to withhold from the government but also of secretly ordering his staff to destroy incriminating surveillance tapes. According to a superseding indictment that was made public on Thursday evening, soon after Trump had received a subpoena demanding footage from the tapes,“the Boss” summoned one of his co-defendants, his personal valet Walt Nauta, who, in turn, reached out to the Mar-a-Lago property manager Carlos De Oliveira. “Hey brother You working today?” Nauta texted De Oliveira. Together, they attempted to carry out a coverup that prosecutors depicted as so ham-handed that it recalls the Watergate plumbers at their worst. Who says history doesn’t rhyme? (Nauta has pleaded not guilty; De Oliveira, who has also been named as a co-defendant, is set to appear in federal court on Monday.)How bad does it look for Trump? Consider the opinion of his former lawyer. “I think this original indictment was engineered to last a thousand years and now this superseding indictment will last an antiquity,” Ty Cobb, who represented Trump in the Mueller investigation, told CNN. “This is such a tight case, the evidence is so overwhelming.” Meanwhile, as of Friday afternoon, the main event—the charges that Trump’s critics have been waiting so anxiously for these past two and a half years—was still pending. It is already quite clear, of course, how Republicans will respond to the former President’s metastasizing legal troubles. They have revealed their hand for months now. There will be manufactured outrage, deflection, and whataboutism so shameless that it would impress the Soviets who perfected this technique during the Cold War. Already this week, Speaker Kevin McCarthy has publicly mused to Sean Hannity about impeaching Biden—for what, exactly, he did not say. Since January, McCarthy and his House Republicans have sought to weaponize their control of the chamber on Trump’s behalf, providing political cover for the former President by launching investigations of what Trump calls the "Biden crime family." They have yet to find definitive evidence tying Biden himself to any wrongdoing, but the long-running saga of his son Hunter Biden—with its tawdry elements of cocaine addiction, extramarital affairs, tax dodging, and questionable payments from foreign-owned companies during his father’s Vice-Presidency—has supplied endless fodder for the G.O.P. The point, in the end, is not so much about Hunter Biden. It’s about tarnishing the President, at a time when Trump needs him to be tarnished. This is his and his defenders’ specialty—the mirror-imaging, the false equivalence. If Trump is a crook who sought to co-opt the machinery of the federal government for his own political benefit, whose family members monetized his office and took huge sums from questionable foreign interests, then Biden must be shown to have done the same thing. If Trump was impeached twice, then Biden, too, must be hit with it. This is, as even Ken Buck, a Republican congressman and no friend of Biden’s, admitted to CNN this week, "impeachment theater." It’s not "responsible," Buck said. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted August 4, 2023 Report Posted August 4, 2023 The right’s current thing: claiming Trump probes are a distraction Quote Soon after the office of special counsel Jack Smith revealed its expanded indictment of former president Donald Trump on Thursday, Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) appeared on Laura Ingraham’s Fox News program.Senator, it seems like, again, the two-tiered system of justice, Ingraham said after introducing her guest. Hunter — referring, as anyone who’s seen Fox News in the past two years is aware, to President Biden’s son — gets an agreement that would give him all this broad immunity. And meanwhile they just keep piling on Trump from every corner.Yeah, we’re down to charging, like, random people, just throwing those into the indictment, Hawley replied, referring to the addition of a Mar-a-Lago staffer to the indictment. Is it any coincidence that the [Justice Department] rushes to add these new indictments today after the Hunter debacle, after their own self-dealing and two-timing is exposed, after they tried to hide from us the true extent of this plea deal that gets blown up? And then it’s like, oh, we got to go indict Trump on something else. I mean, it’s so brazen right now, what they’re doing.There is a lot with which we can take issue here, certainly. Like Ingraham’s effort to suggest that Hunter Biden and Trump deserve an equivalent legal response despite the enormous differences in the charges each faces. Or we might point out that the Mar-a-Lago staffer is accused of both moving boxes in an apparent effort to keep Trump’s attorneys from finding documents marked as classified and then with allegedly telling an IT staffer that the boss wanted to delete subpoenaed surveillance footage.But let’s instead zero in on the goofiest of Hawley’s claims, one that is enjoying a moment in the right-wing spotlight — this idea that the expanded indictment is just meant to distract from Hunter Biden.You’ll recall that Hunter Biden arrived in court on Wednesday expecting to finalize a plea agreement with the federal government. The judge overseeing the case, though, found the existing agreement lacking, forcing it to be redrafted. It was a moment of frustration for Hunter Biden and the government — and then it was over. Round Two will unfold at some point in the future.Then, more than 24 hours later, the expanded indictment was released. Hawley’s argument is that it was intended to distract from the discussion of Hunter Biden but that discussion had already petered out. You can see that below. On MSNBC, there had been no mention of Hunter Biden at all in the three hours before the expanded indictment was made public; on CNN, there was one mention of him in the preceding five hours.How frustrating for Jack Smith that he spent all of that time planning to distract the national conversation away from Hunter Biden by compiling a detailed delineation of Trump’s alleged crimes — only to learn that it had already been distracted! Foiled again!Even beyond the evidence that this was not a distraction — since CNN and MSNBC had already moved on and since Fox News wasn’t going to anyway — it’s ridiculous to argue that the special counsel’s timing is dependent on left-wing public relations. The idea is, what, that the Democratic National Committee calls Smith up and they compare calendars? And then they waste a Trump indictment on an already-dissipated court hearing?The irony is that Hawley was trying to do what he claimed Biden’s allies were doing: distract from his side’s bad news by pointing at the other side’s. Googly-eyed Fox News viewers no doubt nodded along. Quote
Rebound Posted August 5, 2023 Author Report Posted August 5, 2023 11 hours ago, robosmith said: The right’s current thing: claiming Trump probes are a distraction The GOP is trying to turn breadcrumbs into mountains and mountains into dust. Breadcrumbs: Two FBI agents sent inappropriate text messages, another didn’t mention to a judge that Carter spa ge had some sort of unrelated CIA affiliation. Mountains: A mob of 10,000’s attacks the US Capitol and kills police officers at Trump’s command, and hundreds of highly classified stolen documents were fount at Trump’s home in defiance of Federal law and subpoenas. And rape trials and tax fraud. Grand juries handed down 78 felony indictments. Ouch! Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
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