reason10 Posted July 12, 2023 Author Report Posted July 12, 2023 You don't even understand how many LOGICAL FALLACIES you've posted ^here. LMAO Earth to teenager. Around 1999 I taught a college class on logic and fallacies. Some of the dumbest students in the room thought they could just memorize the list of fallacies and not get their shit for brains clock cleaned in a real debate. Most of them apparently are smarter than you. I listed facts, and facts don't care about your feelings. Why don't you edit Wikipedia to your liking and see how far you get? Irrelevant to the subject of the thread. My UNIMPEACHABLE SOURCES have proven that a. CO2 is less than a percentage point of all greenhouse gasses, so it has NEGLIGIBLE effect on the temperature of the planet. (Gee, stuff like NINETY SEVEN PERCENT FCKING WATER VAPOR AS WELL AS THE SUN kinds counts a little more than less of a percentage point.) b. ALL COMBINED human activity produces a FRACTION of all the CO2 released into the atmosphere. ERGO (since you want to play the fallacy game) C. HUMAN ACTIVITY has NOTHING to do with the temperature of the planet nor does it have ANYTHING to do with local weather patterns (which amazingly is called CLIMATE.) Those are the FACTS. And Quote
reason10 Posted July 12, 2023 Author Report Posted July 12, 2023 5 hours ago, Aristides said: Says the guy who doesn't even know what sea ice is. Says the guy who thinks climate change is about the temperature of the planet. Earth to cretin. 1. Climate is defined as prevailing weather conditions. 2. The earth's temperature is decided mostly by the protections of the layer of greenhouse gasses. Without that layer, the sun will heat the earth up to 250 degrees and the absence of the sun will allow the earth to freeze at 240 degrees below zero. 3. 97 percent of this greenhouse layer is WATER VAPOR (which if you didn't have your head up your ass about sea ice you might have noticed that MOST OF THE EARTH'S SURFACE IS WATER.) 4. CO2 makes up less than a percentage point of all greenhouse gasses and ALL COMBINED HUMAN ACTIVITY (including all that CHINESE FOSSIL FUEL USE AND POLLUTION THAT YOU IDI0TS IGNORE) makes up less than a percentage point of all the CO2. Termites release more CO2 into the atmosphere than humans. 5. HUMANS have NOTHING TO SAY about either the temperature of the earth or the hundreds of THOUSANDS of different climates here. The earth has warmed and FROZEN long before the first human. Those are the facts and Quote
Aristides Posted July 12, 2023 Report Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Deluge said: OK, so what does that translate to in terms of climate disaster? Heat is energy, weather is energy being released. More drought in some places, more floods in others, stronger storms, extinction of species that can't cope with temperature rise or have their food sources destroyed because of it. The Antarctic food chain is based on krill which breeds under sea ice. Less ice means less krill which means some species that feed on them, penguins and whales are under threat and so are the species that feed on penguins like orcas and leopard seals. Warm water species displacing colder water species, etc. Pacific salmon are the basis of a whole ecosystem on the west coast and can't survive to spawn when water temperatures in rivers rise too much or reach their spawning grounds when rivers are too low. Also an estimated 50% of existing sea level rise is because of thermal expansion, not melting ice. For a guy yelling hoax, you sure don't seem to know very much. Edited July 12, 2023 by Aristides Quote
reason10 Posted July 12, 2023 Author Report Posted July 12, 2023 46 minutes ago, Aristides said: Heat is energy, weather is energy being released. More drought in some places, more floods in others, stronger storms, extinction of species that can't cope with temperature rise or have their food sources destroyed because of it. The Antarctic food chain is based on krill which breeds under sea ice. Less ice means less krill which means some species that feed on them, penguins and whales are under threat and so are the species that feed on penguins like orcas and leopard seals. Warm water species displacing colder water species, etc. Pacific salmon are the basis of a whole ecosystem on the west coast and can't survive to spawn when water temperatures in rivers rise too much or reach their spawning grounds when rivers are too low. Also an estimated 50% of existing sea level rise is because of thermal expansion, not melting ice. For a guy yelling hoax, you sure don't seem to know very much. We now know there is SOMEBODY in this world who treats Readers Digest like it was a college textbook. THE FACTS: 1. The earth is warmed by the SUN. The earth is cooled by the absence of the Sun. 2. The greenhouse gasses, prevent the planet from being COOKED, (since the surface of THE MOON without greenhouse gasses reach high temps of 250 degrees. 3. The Greenhouse gasses prevent the planet from FREEZING, when the sun is out of range. (since the surface of the MOON without the sun reaches lows of 240 degrees BELOW ZERO.) The Greenhouse layer makes it possible for all human, animal and plant life. 4. Most of the earth surface is WATER. (which even to a Florida Kindergartener explains why 97 percent of all greenhouse gasses is WATER VAPOR.) CO2 is less than a percentage point of that, so CARBON DIOXIDE IS NOT WARMING THE PLANET. 5. Human production is a FRACTION of that small percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere. Termites release more CO2 than all human activity combined. 6. The planet has warmed and cooled LONG before humans arrived. Humans are INCAPABLE of warming or cooling EVEN THE SMALLEST FCKING TOWN ON THE PLANET, much less the entire planet. Those are the FACTS. That is the science, and it exists whether you fcking like it or not. Sea Ice, plankton, krill, ALL OF THAT IS TOTALLY OUT OF THE CONTROL OF HUMANS. PERIOD. Those are the FACTS, AND Is it my imagination, or are liberals getting even DUMBER with time? Quote
Guest Posted July 12, 2023 Report Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, reason10 said: We now know there is SOMEBODY in this world who treats Readers Digest like it was a college textbook. THE FACTS: 1. The earth is warmed by the SUN. The earth is cooled by the absence of the Sun. 2. The greenhouse gasses, prevent the planet from being COOKED, (since the surface of THE MOON without greenhouse gasses reach high temps of 250 degrees. 3. The Greenhouse gasses prevent the planet from FREEZING, when the sun is out of range. (since the surface of the MOON without the sun reaches lows of 240 degrees BELOW ZERO.) The Greenhouse layer makes it possible for all human, animal and plant life. 4. Most of the earth surface is WATER. (which even to a Florida Kindergartener explains why 97 percent of all greenhouse gasses is WATER VAPOR.) CO2 is less than a percentage point of that, so CARBON DIOXIDE IS NOT WARMING THE PLANET. 5. Human production is a FRACTION of that small percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere. Termites release more CO2 than all human activity combined. 6. The planet has warmed and cooled LONG before humans arrived. Humans are INCAPABLE of warming or cooling EVEN THE SMALLEST FCKING TOWN ON THE PLANET, much less the entire planet. Those are the FACTS. That is the science, and it exists whether you fcking like it or not. Sea Ice, plankton, krill, ALL OF THAT IS TOTALLY OUT OF THE CONTROL OF HUMANS. PERIOD. Those are the FACTS, Is it my imagination, or are liberals getting even DUMBER with time? Hahahaha... Quote
Aristides Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 The carbon is in the wood, the same amount of C02 will be emitted whether a termite eats it and farts or it just sits there and rots. Gawd some people are thick. Quote
Rebound Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 5 hours ago, reason10 said: We now know there is SOMEBODY in this world who treats Readers Digest like it was a college textbook. THE FACTS: 1. The earth is warmed by the SUN. The earth is cooled by the absence of the Sun. 2. The greenhouse gasses, prevent the planet from being COOKED, (since the surface of THE MOON without greenhouse gasses reach high temps of 250 degrees. 3. The Greenhouse gasses prevent the planet from FREEZING, when the sun is out of range. (since the surface of the MOON without the sun reaches lows of 240 degrees BELOW ZERO.) The Greenhouse layer makes it possible for all human, animal and plant life. 4. Most of the earth surface is WATER. (which even to a Florida Kindergartener explains why 97 percent of all greenhouse gasses is WATER VAPOR.) CO2 is less than a percentage point of that, so CARBON DIOXIDE IS NOT WARMING THE PLANET. 5. Human production is a FRACTION of that small percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere. Termites release more CO2 than all human activity combined. 6. The planet has warmed and cooled LONG before humans arrived. Humans are INCAPABLE of warming or cooling EVEN THE SMALLEST FCKING TOWN ON THE PLANET, much less the entire planet. Those are the FACTS. That is the science, and it exists whether you fcking like it or not. Sea Ice, plankton, krill, ALL OF THAT IS TOTALLY OUT OF THE CONTROL OF HUMANS. PERIOD. Those are the FACTS, AND The Sun is good! It gives us life! There’s nothing wrong with getting too close to the sun! Water is good! It is necessary for life! Our bodies are 60% water! There’s nothing dangerous about water! Drowning is a myth! How can something you’re made of be harmful to you? Chemicals are good! We’re made out of chemicals! Here, drink some H2SO4! It’s delicious! Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
robosmith Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, WestCanMan said: F-tards here still think that Trump lied about "rain during his inauguration speech" He DID LIE and your own video cite PROVES THAT. But you're STILL in denial. I thought you'd come to your senses on that, but you've decided to x-tuple down. LMAO Edited July 13, 2023 by robosmith 1 Quote
robosmith Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, reason10 said: Is it my imagination, or are liberals getting even DUMBER with time? It IS your fantasy. Just like all "facts" (actually OPINIONS) you CLAIMED in that post. LMAO Edited July 13, 2023 by robosmith Quote
reason10 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Posted July 13, 2023 11 hours ago, Rebound said: The Sun is good! It gives us life! There’s nothing wrong with getting too close to the sun! Water is good! It is necessary for life! Our bodies are 60% water! There’s nothing dangerous about water! Drowning is a myth! How can something you’re made of be harmful to you? Chemicals are good! We’re made out of chemicals! Here, drink some H2SO4! It’s delicious! Science exists and FACT exists whether you like it or not. If you are too STUPID to handle the facts, don't blame me. I didn't hire the high school dropout who taught in your blue state elementary school before you dropped out of the third grade. I presented FACTS and FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS. Quote
Deluge Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 20 hours ago, robosmith said: Why don't you edit Wikipedia to your liking and see how far you get? Why don't you just pull your head out of your editable sources and use a reliable source in the first place? Quote
Aristides Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Deluge said: Why don't you just pull your head out of your editable sources and use a reliable source in the first place? No need for editable sources. There are plenty of reliable sources that use actual data. Quote
reason10 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Posted July 13, 2023 10 hours ago, robosmith said: It IS your fantasy. Just like all "facts" (actually OPINIONS) you CLAIMED in that post. LMAO Nope. It's fact. You people started out stupid and now it looks like you all were born with downs syndrome. 1 hour ago, Deluge said: Why don't you just pull your head out of your editable sources and use a reliable source in the first place? These goose steppers wouldn't know a reliable source if one was jammed up their ass. Quote
Deluge Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Aristides said: No need for editable sources. There are plenty of reliable sources that use actual data. Depends on the source, but at least you generally get the picture. 3 minutes ago, reason10 said: These goose steppers wouldn't know a reliable source if one was jammed up their ass. That's because their "sources" are actually activists, just like them. Quote
Aristides Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 Because their sources are scientists who use actual data, opposed to those who don't understand a simple carbon cycle and how dumping billions of tons of carbon into the atmosphere in a short time which has been stored in the earth's crust for millions of years totally distorts that cycle. A six year old could understand it. 1 Quote
reason10 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Aristides said: Because their sources are scientists who use actual data, opposed to those who don't understand a simple carbon cycle and how dumping billions of tons of carbon into the atmosphere in a short time which has been stored in the earth's crust for millions of years totally distorts that cycle. A six year old could understand it. People who are suggesting that humans can warm the planet or change the climate aren't as smart as six year olds, (especially Florida six year olds.) TERMITES dump more carbon into the atmosphere than ALL human activity combined. That is a scientific FACT and FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS. Quote
robosmith Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Deluge said: Depends on the source, but at least you generally get the picture. That's because their "sources" are actually activists, just like them. The references CITED are FAR SUPERIOR to YOUR BUPKIS. Quote
Rebound Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 4 hours ago, reason10 said: Science exists and FACT exists whether you like it or not. If you are too STUPID to handle the facts, don't blame me. I didn't hire the high school dropout who taught in your blue state elementary school before you dropped out of the third grade. I presented FACTS and FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS. You did not present scientific facts, you presented a Meme, which has been widely debunked by… scientists. You need a psychiatrist, dude. 2 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
reason10 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Posted July 13, 2023 3 hours ago, robosmith said: The references CITED are FAR SUPERIOR to YOUR BUPKIS. You have NEVER cited a reliable source. EVER. 2 hours ago, Rebound said: You did not present scientific facts, you presented a Meme, which has been widely debunked by… scientists. You need a psychiatrist, dude. The first post of this thread (since you seem to be too fcking STUPID to scroll back) is backed up by a reliable source, something you're too fcking stupid and stubborn to realize. It is SCIENCE. And it is fact. And FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR BUTT HURT FEELINGS. Take a Midol, Fraulein. Quote
Hodad Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 A little reminder that we've been aware of and unresponsive to climate change for 40+ years. And also a reminder of a different era of political decorum. 2 Quote
robosmith Posted July 15, 2023 Report Posted July 15, 2023 On 7/13/2023 at 3:22 PM, reason10 said: You have NEVER cited a reliable source. EVER. You NEVER PROVED any source I've cited is unreliable, EVER. Your definition of not reliable is any source YOU DON'T LIKE. LMAO Quote
reason10 Posted July 15, 2023 Author Report Posted July 15, 2023 5 hours ago, robosmith said: You NEVER PROVED any source I've cited is unreliable, EVER. Your definition of not reliable is any source YOU DON'T LIKE. LMAO All my sources are reliable and factual, you twit. 1 Quote
reason10 Posted July 16, 2023 Author Report Posted July 16, 2023 On 7/14/2023 at 9:59 AM, Hodad said: A little reminder that we've been aware of and unresponsive to climate change for 40+ years. And also a reminder of a different era of political decorum. The climate has been changing every since there was an Earth. It changed for CENTURIES before humans ever walked the face of this planet.Humans have NOTHING to say about the climate, PERIOD. You NEVER PROVED any source I've cited is unreliable, EVER. Yes I have. You're just too BLUE STATE STUPID to realize it. Quote
Aristides Posted July 16, 2023 Report Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, reason10 said: You NEVER PROVED any source I've cited is unreliable, EVER. Yes I have. You're just too BLUE STATE STUPID to realize it. cO2 Maybe you should actually listen to the interview because I don't know what you watched. Sagan absolutely talks about the greenhouse effect of CO2, the influence of fossil fuels and the consequences. He also talks about the need for countries to address it on a global scale. And that was nearly 40 years ago. Unfortunately I doubt whether you have a 17 minute attention span. Edited July 16, 2023 by Aristides Quote
reason10 Posted July 17, 2023 Author Report Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, Aristides said: Maybe you should actually listen to the interview because I don't know what you watched. Sagan absolutely talks about the greenhouse effect of CO2, the influence of fossil fuels and the consequences. He also talks about the need for countries to address it on a global scale. And that was nearly 40 years ago. Unfortunately I doubt whether you have a 17 minute attention span. Sagan was a science fiction author. He has about as much credibility as Hunter Biden trying to lecture us on the evils of cocaine. These are the FACTS: 1. The greenhouse gasses protect the Earth from freezing and from reaching surface temperatures of 250 degrees during the day. 2. 97 percent of all greenhouse gasses is WATER, (which is not surprising since about 70 percent of the entire surface of the earth is WATER. 3. CO2 makes up less than a percentage point of all greenhouse gasses and humans make up less than a percentage point of that. Termites release more CO2 into the atmosphere than ALL human activity combined. 4. The earth has cooled and warmed LONG before there were humans. The climate has change LONG before humans came here. To suggest that somehow a few humans on SEVENTEEN PERCENT of the surface of the earth can somehow change climate is Downs Syndrome stupid. There is stupid and there is BLUE STATE STUPID Edited July 17, 2023 by reason10 Quote
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