August1991 Posted July 22, 2023 Author Report Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) In 2014, Russia peacefully brought Crimea into the Russian Federation. ==== IMHO, from the American side, Obama and Trump managed this well. Bush Jnr and Biden (the people under both) have screwed this up. Edited July 22, 2023 by August1991 Quote
August1991 Posted July 22, 2023 Author Report Posted July 22, 2023 I often think that you Americans are like the guy in Shirley Valentine - you always turn the conversation to yourself. But in this case, you Americans have a hand in this civil war between Slavs. ==== Obama and Trump, in their own ways, avoided this - and had a better understanding of America in the world. Quote
myata Posted July 22, 2023 Report Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, August1991 said: But in this case, you Americans have a hand in this civil war between Slavs. Translation from pathological l-ing speak: denying the right of the people for independent existence; the Charter of the United Nations; and the objective reality itself. Russia invaded Ukraine and perpetrates a brutal, criminal war. There's no explanations or excuses for that: only the Hague tribunal bench. Edited July 22, 2023 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
August1991 Posted July 28, 2023 Author Report Posted July 28, 2023 On 7/22/2023 at 7:57 AM, myata said: Translation from pathological l-ing speak: denying the right of the people for independent existence; the Charter of the United Nations; and the objective reality itself. Russia invaded Ukraine and perpetrates a brutal, criminal war. There's no explanations or excuses for that: only the Hague tribunal bench. Myata, I want this death and destruction to stop. America should be on the side to negotiate an end. ==== Unlike the war against Hitler or Japan, or even against the Soviets, this is a foolish civil war between stubborn Slavs. Trust me. Quote
myata Posted July 28, 2023 Report Posted July 28, 2023 8 hours ago, August1991 said: Unlike the war against Hitler or Japan, or even against the Soviets, this is a foolish civil war between stubborn Slavs. L-r. Ukraine is an independent, sovereign state with internationally recognized borders. Denying the right of nations for independent existence to appease bloody tyrants? 8 hours ago, August1991 said: Trust me. Why? Like who does that, trusting blindly, against their own senses, no someone living in another universe.. or a pathological l-r? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
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