Study shows suicide/psychiatric conditions higher in trans genders.

[CrakHoBarbie]

12 hours ago, reason10 said:

 They are crazy. And they are a week or two away from committing sex crimes. 

Is this how you justify your hatred of them?

By making moronic blanket claims that they are all depraved sexual predators?

It's especially ironic since you love Donald... Who's a convicted sexual predator, yet innocent homosexuals, in your eyes, are all scum.

 

I've said this sooo many times... But you simply cannot help yourself from constantly reaffirming what a profoundly stupid person you are, you rancid old fool.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Dysphoria is still a mental illness.

 

Until you get your MD, you are legally prohibited in the US from advancing your diagnosis.

It's called practicing medicine without a license.

The WORST you can do is misrepresent what's said the Medical Journals, specifically the DSM-5 (if you know what that is)

[Michael Hardner]

8 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Seems irresponsible. You might want to read the entirety of posts, lest ye be seen giving ups

to outright nazism

What can I say?  You are definitely right.

[Nationalist]

14 hours ago, robosmith said:

Absolutely. There is NO NEED for you to contribute to someone's stress by treating them differently over something of which they have no control.

And I don't. I call a man...a man. Regardless of his attire.

[reason10]

11 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Is this how you justify your hatred of them?

By making moronic blanket claims that they are all depraved sexual predators?

It's especially ironic since you love Donald... Who's a convicted sexual predator, yet innocent homosexuals, in your eyes, are all scum.

 

I've said this sooo many times... But you simply cannot help yourself from constantly reaffirming what a profoundly stupid person you are, you rancid old fool.

You are a fcking LIAR. LEGALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT TRUMP was NEVER convicted of ANY crime.

The drag queens who go after children ARE  pedophiles. And you have no problem with that because you voted for an illegally elected president who is a pedophile.

Until you get your MD, you are legally prohibited in the US from advancing your diagnosis.

Excuse me, BAT GUANO FOR BRAINS. Giving an OPINION is not practicing medicine without a license.

Geez! You get dumber every day.

[CdnFox]

11 hours ago, robosmith said:

Until you get your MD, you are legally prohibited in the US from advancing your diagnosis.

It's called practicing medicine without a license.

 

Sure - but noting a definition is not the same as giving a diagosis. There's nothing illegal about saying cancer is an illness

That was your WHOLE Defense? LOLOLOL - I should shut up because i'm commiting a crime by pointing out that an illness is an illness?  ROFLMAO!!!

Holy shit you're desperate kid.  Even YOU must realize how pathetic that sounded

[Guest]

On 6/30/2023 at 6:19 PM, robosmith said:

It was PREVIOUSLY classified as a "disorder,"

Which is a pretty way to describe a mental health illness. Proof of which, is the high likelihood for the requirement of medical help, to treat it. You can re-word things all you wish, but if this wasn't a form of an illness, no treatment would be required, and these people would simply be gender non-confirming, in behavior.

On 6/30/2023 at 6:19 PM, robosmith said:

CHANGED to REMOVE the disease stigma.

It hasn't removed the stigma, which is why indoctrination is required, to do so by force.

Sorry, but most see a man with a beard, and a wig and painted fingernails wanting to use the women's washroom, and  most people will not instinctively think "wow, what a beautiful woman, who is simply wanting to express her true self".

Most will think: "WTF is that dude doing trying to go into the women's washroom?!"

This is human nature. People naturally see me, and see am male. Now we're indoctrinating people to bring this into question. Words like woman, are brought into question. And they're surprised so many people are pushing back? Really?

On 6/30/2023 at 6:19 PM, robosmith said:

Anyone who persecutes someone for a condition beyond their control, contributes to the STIGMA surrounding it and the distress felt by the persecuted.

The world isn't going to play along with one's self-identity. It shouldn't have to. Laws should be in place, to prevent assault, and the like (just like laws in place, help prevent me from getting lynched for being black). But if one can't keep it together because people see you for the physical gender you appear as, vs what you feel inside, this isn't our problem to contend with. Its that individuals. Travel at all, and it would worsen, regarding how people perceive them in public.

I see a man with a beard, and a pink wig with pigtails and painted nails and a t-shirt that says "I'M A GURL!" and am sorry, but I turn away to avoid laughing in your face.

If you can't handle this, maybe you may need to recognize that just because you feel like a woman inside, doesn't make you one.

[Guest]

People blaming society on the suicides, ignore the fact that the distress is still high once gender reassignment surgery is performed. So the lack of acceptance, or the reality setting in, that you cannot physically change genders. Its impossible. You can make cosmetic changes to take the appearance of being the opposite gender, but its like putting a Ferrari kit on a Fiero car. Its still a Fiero.

"Yeah, but it looks the same" "I don't see why it should be seen as any different"

Did you drive it on the race track? You would pay 400,000$ for a Fiero?

Thailand has among the highest population of trans people in the world. You bump into trans women especially, everywhere you go, just about.

Calling one a "ladyboy", would be seen as normal. They don't try to be something they're not. Many are just as beautiful, embracing who they are.

Trying to impose that they're no different than a woman, with testes bulging from their bikinis, would have them laughed off of the beach.

Its not the world's responsibility to play along. This isn't a child showing you an ambiguous drawing, you're supposed to pretend is the best work of art you have ever seen. This is adults genuinely believing they are in the wrong body, and a society being ordered to not say a thing.

This is insanity.

 

[CdnFox]

21 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

You can re-word things all you wish, but if this wasn't a form of an illness, no treatment would be required, and these people would simply be gender non-confirming, in behavior.

As one expert said -  If there's no pathology then now can there be a treatment. And why would the gov't pay for it?

[reason10]

47 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

As one expert said -  If there's no pathology then now can there be a treatment. And why would the gov't pay for it?

The pathology is Gender Dysphoria. And I have the same question you do. Why would the government have to pay for it? Most cases of trannies are just kids who weren't raised right by their parents. Kids come up with all kinds of stupid bullshit. They're KIDS. And proper parenting can steer them to reality and more healthy choices.

The burden of proof is on the genetic science community to show that there is a trannie gene, same as there is a queer gene. So far, evidence of the existence of either one is not forthcoming, and genetic science is pretty damned advanced.

Trying to cure a child of gender dysphoria using the same libido blockers given to convicted sex offenders, or using Dr. Josef Mengele type castration is about as barbaric as it comes.

We'll wait patiently while the Nazi left produces PROOF that any of this is necessary.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

People blaming society on the suicides, ignore the fact that the distress is still high once gender reassignment surgery is performed. So the lack of acceptance, or the reality setting in, that you cannot physically change genders. Its impossible. You can make cosmetic changes to take the appearance of being the opposite gender, but its like putting a Ferrari kit on a Fiero car. Its still a Fiero.

"Yeah, but it looks the same" "I don't see why it should be seen as any different"

Did you drive it on the race track? You would pay 400,000$ for a Fiero?

Thailand has among the highest population of trans people in the world. You bump into trans women especially, everywhere you go, just about.

Calling one a "ladyboy", would be seen as normal. They don't try to be something they're not. Many are just as beautiful, embracing who they are.

Trying to impose that they're no different than a woman, with testes bulging from their bikinis, would have them laughed off of the beach.

Its not the world's responsibility to play along. This isn't a child showing you an ambiguous drawing, you're supposed to pretend is the best work of art you have ever seen. This is adults genuinely believing they are in the wrong body, and a society being ordered to not say a thing.

This is insanity.

 

You obviously KNOW NOTHING about the stages of fetal development in utero.

Brains develop at different stages than the physical genitals and like ALL BIOLOGY, sometimes they are not synchronized. AKA, expecting perfection in biology is the disease that is IMPOSED by individuals like yourself labeling it "insanity," when it is YOUR FAILURE to understand the outliers in NATURAL PROCESSES.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, reason10 said:

The pathology is Gender Dysphoria.

Yes, but occasionally you get some arguing that ISN'T a pathology, it's not an illness or the like.

Of course it is. And if it isn't why would you need to treat it at all.

[reason10]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Yes, but occasionally you get some arguing that ISN'T a pathology, it's not an illness or the like.

Of course it is. And if it isn't why would you need to treat it at all.

If the subject of this thread is ANYWHERE near accurate, (and as usually I'm not ready to go that far, since it is goose stepper created) then a person at risk of suicide is SUFFERING FROM A PATHOLOGY.

Suicidal thoughts are a THREAT TO HEALTH. If psychologists do not want to call this a pathology, they should be stripped of their licenses, because they are NOT qualified to be doctors.

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, reason10 said:

If the subject of this thread is ANYWHERE near accurate, (and as usually I'm not ready to go that far, since it is goose stepper created) then a person at risk of suicide is SUFFERING FROM A PATHOLOGY.

 

Exactly.  And not just a dysphoria but a disorder. A disorder is something that prevents you from functioning in a normal or healthy way (super short definition).

Not that the two are exclusive - most dysphorias are a symptom of a disorder.

But without a doubt - this is not a naturally occurring state of being, it's an illness

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Suicidal thoughts are a THREAT TO HEALTH. If psychologists do not want to call this a pathology, they should be stripped of their licenses, because they are NOT qualified to be doctors.

And this is where many medical professional are getting into a conflict between their radical left ideology and their medical knowledge.  They don't WANT it to be an illness because then people won't look at this as 'normal acceptable behavior'.  And presumably someone would be looking for a cure.

On the other hand if they don't claim that treating them like 'real women' is a medical necessity - why would anyone do it. So if they want them to get help at all and have their surgeries and drugs covered they have to admit it's a medical condition. 

So they basically try to present BOTH messages. It literally goes both ways for them.

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to transceive