Iraqi voter has message for anti-freedom crowd

[Montgomery Burns]

77 y/o Iraq voter, Betty Dawisha, has a message:

"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!"

Click on link to see video; it wouldn't allow me to hotlink it.

-------

Obviously she is a neocon.

The Iraqis hate the US and want Saddam back in power.

I bet she has shares in Halliburton.

She is a puppet for the Bush Regime; I swear I saw a glimpse of Karl Rove's hand behind her back.

NO BLOOD FOR OOIILLLLL!

[cavendish]

Gee, you sound like Goebbel's Ministry of Propaganda.

[GostHacked]

But oh wait.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4528982.stm

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html

Admitting to wrong intelligence? You don't say Mr. Bush? I NEVER would have guessed that. Thanks for steering me straight. I won't ever doubt you again.

This amounts to a war crime.

[Black Dog]

But oh wait.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4528982.stm

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html

Admitting to wrong intelligence? You don't say Mr. Bush? I NEVER would have guessed that. Thanks for steering me straight. I won't ever doubt you again.

This amounts to a war crime.

The flood of bullshit never stops, does it?

"My decision to remove Saddam Hussein was the right decision," the president said. "Saddam was a threat and the American people, and the world is better off because he is no longer in power."

A threat to who? His military was an empty shell which posed little threat to his immediate neighbours, let alone the world. His WMD programs were nonexistent. His ties to terrorism were, at best, tenuous. So how did this contained, nutured thug pose a thraet to anyone?

"We are living through a watershed moment in the story of freedom," Bush said. "Iraqis will go to the polls to choose a government that will be the only constitutional democracy in the Arab world. Yet we need to remember that these elections are also a vital part of a broader strategy in protecting the American people against the threat of terrorism."

Yeah constitutional democracy means a lot to people with no electricity, running water, jobs or even the ability to leave their homes without getting robed, kidnapped or killed outright.

"It took a four-year civil war and a century of struggle after that before the promise of our Declaration (of Independence) was extended to all Americans," Bush said. "It is important to keep this history in mind as we look at the progress of freedom and democracy in Iraq."

Yeah: let's compare a domestic revolution with a government imposed at gunpoint by a foreign government.

"Over the course of this war, we have learned that winning the battle for Iraqi cities is only the first step," Bush said. "We also have to win the battle after the battle by helping Iraqis consolidate their gains and keep the terrorists from returning."

Because an guerrilla war is all about winning territory?

As Iraqi forces gain experience and the political process advances, we will be able to decrease our troop level in Iraq without losing our capability to defeat the terrorists."

When the number of battle ready Iraqi troops reache dabove the current 300 or 400, then maybe you can start crowing.

[Montgomery Burns]

It appears that some on this thread aren't enjoying getting PWNED by a 77 y/o Iraqi woman.

Here's some pics for you to chew on.

------

Those Iraqi voters dancing were obviously actors hired by The Bush Regime.

I'll bet those pics were taken by a Fox News photographer.

*Screws tinfoil beanie tighter on head and furiously gulps down the Kool-aid*

Foaming at the mouth....eyeballs bulging.....veins popping out of temple....must let out a Moonbat Mantra:

NO BLOOD FOR OOIILLLLLLL

[Shady]

Come'on Burns, by now you must realize that the kook-left's hatred for President Bush trumps anything good for the world and Iraq. Bush lied, regardless of what people like George "It's a slam dunk" Clinton appointee Tenent had to say, regardless of what the world's other intelligence agencies had to say, and regardless of the official regime change position of the United States government in 1998 had to say.

[Black Dog]

Come'on Burns, by now you must realize that the kook-left's hatred for President Bush trumps anything good for the world and Iraq. Bush lied, regardless of what people like George "It's a slam dunk" Clinton appointee Tenent had to say, regardless of what the world's other intelligence agencies had to say, and regardless of the official regime change position of the United States government in 1998 had to say.

Ever hear of a false dichotomy?

[sharkman]

Iraqis are grateful for freedom while we friitter ours away in Canada. And no one cares, how Canadian.

[PocketRocket]

Iraqi voter has message for anti-freedom crowd, Video: A 16 second b*tch slap

Does she have anything for the anti-hypocrisy crowd???

How about the anti-liar crowd, or the anti-bad-intelligence crowd???

[Montgomery Burns]

Impeach Bush now! First Afghanistan and now Iraq! We cannot allow this kind of liberty to be spread!

[legamus]

i'm a bit new on these forums - what you're saying, burns, is bush went to iraq solely as a benevolent liberator because of his belief in democracy and his deep concern for the predicament of the iraqi people? is that about right?

[Montgomery Burns]

i'm a bit new on these forums - what you're saying, burns, is bush went to iraq solely as a benevolent liberator because of his belief in democracy and his deep concern for the predicament of the iraqi people? is that about right?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Freud had a term for what you are attempting; he called it projection.

[Montgomery Burns]

Come'on Burns, by now you must realize that the kook-left's hatred for President Bush trumps anything good for the world and Iraq.  Bush lied, regardless of what people like George "It's a slam dunk" Clinton appointee Tenent had to say, regardless of what the world's other intelligence agencies had to say, and regardless of the official regime change position of the United States government in 1998 had to say.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Obviously, you are not from the reality-based community.

Us progressives know that Hans Blix, the UN, Russia, France, Germany, the UK, Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara Milulski, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, Bob Graham, Harold Ford, Tom Lantos, Tom Harkin, Madeline Albright, Sandy Berger, Barbara Boxer, Robert Byrd (D-KKK), Wesley Clark, Jacques ChIraq, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, William Cohen, John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, Al Gore, Jim Jeffords, Ted Kennedy, Carl Levin, Patty Murray, Nancy Pelosi, Scott " I pick up 14 y/o chicks at Burger King" Ritter, John Rockefeller, and Henry Waxman were all ZAPPED by Karl Rove's Evil Mind-Control Ray Gun!!

Tighten your tinfoil beanie because Rove's Evil Mind-Control Ray Gun is Super-Duper POWERFUL!!

*Fires up the bong and pounds back a gallon of Kool-Aid*

BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED!

[kimmy]

UN observers said there were high levels of participation even in Sunni areas of the country. If that's the case, their participation adds legitimacy to the process. It will further marginalize the insurgents: if the whole country is participating in the elections, it somewhat undermines the claim that they're fighting to free the country.

-k

[sharkman]

And you can bet the MSM will under report on the good news of the election and have whatever bomb going off leading the broadcasts. They're so predictable.

[legamus]

i'm a bit new on these forums - what you're saying, burns, is bush went to iraq solely as a benevolent liberator because of his belief in democracy and his deep concern for the predicament of the iraqi people? is that about right?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Freud had a term for what you are attempting; he called it projection.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

maybe... from the little i've read of your comments on the whole iraqi thing that's the impression i was getting. it at least sounds like you believe that the recent positive developments in iraq justify the questionable means they were arrived at; is that much accurate?

[!!!]

UN observers said there were high levels of participation even in Sunni areas of the country. If that's the case, their participation adds legitimacy to the process. It will further marginalize the insurgents: if the whole country is participating in the elections, it somewhat undermines the claim that they're fighting to free the country.

What makes you think that an armed insurgency and political participation are mutually exclusive?

[BHS]

Gee, you sound like Goebbel's Ministry of Propaganda.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Wow, a snide Nazi reference, making up the totality of your first post. I wonder what sort of contribution you're going to make to the forum.

[BHS]

But oh wait.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4528982.stm

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html

Admitting to wrong intelligence? You don't say Mr. Bush? I NEVER would have guessed that. Thanks for steering me straight. I won't ever doubt you again.

This amounts to a war crime.

The flood of bullshit never stops, does it?

"My decision to remove Saddam Hussein was the right decision," the president said. "Saddam was a threat and the American people, and the world is better off because he is no longer in power."

A threat to who? His military was an empty shell which posed little threat to his immediate neighbours, let alone the world. His WMD programs were nonexistent. His ties to terrorism were, at best, tenuous. So how did this contained, nutured thug pose a thraet to anyone?

"We are living through a watershed moment in the story of freedom," Bush said. "Iraqis will go to the polls to choose a government that will be the only constitutional democracy in the Arab world. Yet we need to remember that these elections are also a vital part of a broader strategy in protecting the American people against the threat of terrorism."

Yeah constitutional democracy means a lot to people with no electricity, running water, jobs or even the ability to leave their homes without getting robed, kidnapped or killed outright.

"It took a four-year civil war and a century of struggle after that before the promise of our Declaration (of Independence) was extended to all Americans," Bush said. "It is important to keep this history in mind as we look at the progress of freedom and democracy in Iraq."

Yeah: let's compare a domestic revolution with a government imposed at gunpoint by a foreign government.

"Over the course of this war, we have learned that winning the battle for Iraqi cities is only the first step," Bush said. "We also have to win the battle after the battle by helping Iraqis consolidate their gains and keep the terrorists from returning."

Because an guerrilla war is all about winning territory?

As Iraqi forces gain experience and the political process advances, we will be able to decrease our troop level in Iraq without losing our capability to defeat the terrorists."

When the number of battle ready Iraqi troops reache dabove the current 300 or 400, then maybe you can start crowing.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

All of the comments you've made here sound like last year's rhetoric, and it was pretty stale and inaccurate then too. The real "flood of bullshit" is the less and less relevant kvetching coming from people like yourself. You have two options: go on complaining about an improving situation that has outgrown your cynicism, or accept the fact that you have always been wrong about the entire Iraq war issue.

[BHS]

Come'on Burns, by now you must realize that the kook-left's hatred for President Bush trumps anything good for the world and Iraq. Bush lied, regardless of what people like George "It's a slam dunk" Clinton appointee Tenent had to say, regardless of what the world's other intelligence agencies had to say, and regardless of the official regime change position of the United States government in 1998 had to say.

Ever hear of a false dichotomy?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Sure. An example would be the two options I just presented you with. Feel free two come up with your own third way forward.

[BHS]

Iraqi voter has message for anti-freedom crowd, Video: A 16 second b*tch slap

Does she have anything for the anti-hypocrisy crowd???

How about the anti-liar crowd, or the anti-bad-intelligence crowd???

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

No, for that you'd have to go to Zarqawi or one of his associates. Actual Iraqi citizens appear to be signing on with the pro-liar movement. (The pro-hypocrits being supporters of those Dems who voted against the war, after they voted for the war but were against it. You know who I'm talking about.)

[!!!]

All of the comments you've made here sound like last year's rhetoric, and it was pretty stale and inaccurate then too. The real "flood of bullshit" is the less and less relevant kvetching coming from people like yourself. You have two options: go on complaining about an improving situation that has outgrown your cynicism, or accept the fact that you have always been wrong about the entire Iraq war issue.

BHS, meet false dichotomy. False dichotomy, meet BHS.

Sure. An example would be the two options I just presented you with. Feel free two come up with your own third way forward.

Oh, I see you've met.

No, for that you'd have to go to Zarqawi or one of his associates. Actual Iraqi citizens appear to be signing on with the pro-liar movement. (The pro-hypocrits being supporters of those Dems who voted against the war, after they voted for the war but were against it. You know who I'm talking about.)

Oh, but only in passing? Perhaps you two should get better aquainted.

[BHS]

All of the comments you've made here sound like last year's rhetoric, and it was pretty stale and inaccurate then too. The real "flood of bullshit" is the less and less relevant kvetching coming from people like yourself. You have two options: go on complaining about an improving situation that has outgrown your cynicism, or accept the fact that you have always been wrong about the entire Iraq war issue.

BHS, meet false dichotomy. False dichotomy, meet BHS.

Sure. An example would be the two options I just presented you with. Feel free two come up with your own third way forward.

Oh, I see you've met.

No, for that you'd have to go to Zarqawi or one of his associates. Actual Iraqi citizens appear to be signing on with the pro-liar movement. (The pro-hypocrits being supporters of those Dems who voted against the war, after they voted for the war but were against it. You know who I'm talking about.)

Oh, but only in passing? Perhaps you two should get better aquainted.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

There's a lot on that page that you should bone up on yourself, friend. What part of the last quote involves a false dichotomy?

[!!!]

There's a lot on that page that you should bone up on yourself, friend. What part of the last quote involves a false dichotomy?

Um:

No, for that you'd have to go to Zarqawi or one of his associates. Actual Iraqi citizens appear to be signing on with the pro-liar movement.

The false dichotomy here is, basically, your rehash of the old saw that "you're either with us or you're wih the ter'rists." In this case, the role of "us" is being played by "actual Iraqi citizens", despite the fact that many of those folks also happen to be "the terrorists".

Based on high turnout and (temporary) lull in violence, those "actual Iraqis" who support Bush's vision took the time to vote, after which they went back to blowing things and people up.

[BHS]

There's a lot on that page that you should bone up on yourself, friend. What part of the last quote involves a false dichotomy?

Um:

No, for that you'd have to go to Zarqawi or one of his associates. Actual Iraqi citizens appear to be signing on with the pro-liar movement.

The false dichotomy here is, basically, your rehash of the old saw that "you're either with us or you're wih the ter'rists." In this case, the role of "us" is being played by "actual Iraqi citizens", despite the fact that many of those folks also happen to be "the terrorists".

Based on high turnout and (temporary) lull in violence, those "actual Iraqis" who support Bush's vision took the time to vote, after which they went back to blowing things and people up.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I don't believe I'm setting up an either/or choice there. I'm saying that Zarqawi (who is a foreigner in Iraq) is in one category, while the Iraqis "appear" to be signing on with a different cause unrelated to terrorism. There isn't the intent to create a false sense that there are only two options; I *tried* to reinforce the concept of alternative possibilities by infering that Kerry supporters fall into a totally different category. In any case, the word "appears" indicates that my assessment of Iraqi opinion is not an absolute. Or such was my intent. Sheesh, and to think that I was trying to be funny.