CdnFox Posted April 11, 2023 Author Report Posted April 11, 2023 8 hours ago, Aristides said: So you are saying May speaks for you. She doesn't speak for me, my MP does. Whether you like it or not both do. That doesn't mean she represents my views, and that's one of the reasons that mps are supposed to stick close to party lines and be cautious about what they say. Only Justin tends to use terms like "canadians want" or "canadians know" etc - he does it on purpose. He certainly doesnt' represent me or my ideals per se but unfortunately as a member of parliament he does get to say he's a representative of Canadians. So yes - if may is at a press conference and speaks about canadians then she has that right, even tho she may not specifically represent you or me. You notice that your mp is not officially called "the representative from 'x' riding, but rather the 'member' from x riding. The riding chooses which person they will send to represent canada - not just their riding. Otherwise the mp would only vote on matters directly involved with their riding instead of all matters. Quote
myata Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: the representative from 'x' riding, but rather the 'member' from x riding. Or another innocent-deliberate trick to avoid accountability? Think: if you are a representative of the people, citizens who is called that and recognized as such, who can make you vote this way and not that, pretty much always? Who is it, what mysterious being(s) who are above the will of people in this country? We are in a tight, I'd say very honestly, hopeless spot without much clue how to move forward. There are very few if any, effective mechanisms of checks and controls over the governments and their institutions. And on top of that, even when something vaguely similar happens like the famous "responsibility by election" (because there isn't any other and you have to wait and then keep fingers crossed) it gives absolutely no incentives to the winner to change anything. The system is already perfect, cannot be improved in principle - for them. Where else, in what other democracy in closing on two centuries you are guaranteed a place at the trough no matter what you do? Just by going a tiny-winy bit more modest than Putin and Un, splitting the mandate to rule unilaterally, without any checks and controls (yes can't deny what we just seen and experienced) between near-identical fractions of the elite you can play this cute game forever! Or you thought so but in fact, on the the North Mexico stop. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
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