Jobs Outsourced to China

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2 hours ago, Rebound said:

You qualify for a job that requires a high school diploma. Not impressed.  You aren’t even a qualified teacher, so big whoop-dee-doo.

Actually, in two counties the job requires a bachelor's degree. I was looking at certifying in another county (one that pays more because the real estate is valued a lot more.) The minimum there is 120 hours.

Also, I do not live in Orange county, and you couldn't get me to return there at gun point. It's a hell hole.

As far as qualifying for ANY job, you have zero room to talk. Welfare checks do not require ANY education at all. Judging by the uneducated responses you have been vomiting all over this forum, I'd say you don't even have a blue state middle school education.

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2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Since all of your citations are from 2012, they cannot possibly prove your assertion that Trump brought factory jobs back from China. 

The citations (which your uneducated eyes ignored) were not about the jobs President Trump brought back from the far east. They are documentation of the jobs Barak Saddam Hussein Obama OUTSOURCED to China. Elsewhere in this thread (or elsewhere in this forum) I provided links to actual companies who returned here and set up shop thanks to the Trump tax cuts.

Again, this discussion obviously is over your head, proof once again of the inferiority of blue state public schools.

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2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Ok,  Mr. Teacher, then show us that you understand the first thing about education and properly cite a primary source which supports your claim that Florida has the highest public education teacher requirements in the nation. MLS format. Chop chop!

Actually, you uneducated left wingers continue to prove the inferiority of your blue state schools every time you post ignorance and lies. Want proof?  Read your dumb replies. Right now, your levels are barely at Florida third grade levels.

[Rebound]

26 minutes ago, reason10 said:

The citations (which your uneducated eyes ignored) were not about the jobs President Trump brought back from the far east. They are documentation of the jobs Barak Saddam Hussein Obama OUTSOURCED to China. Elsewhere in this thread (or elsewhere in this forum) I provided links to actual companies who returned here and set up shop thanks to the Trump tax cuts.

Again, this discussion obviously is over your head, proof once again of the inferiority of blue state public schools.

 The examples you gave of companies starting up in the US were all from when Obama was still in office.  Moreover, the examples are merely anecdotal and not indicative of the state of outsourcing/insourcing.  

Edited November 11, 2022 by Rebound

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32 minutes ago, Rebound said:

 The examples you gave of companies starting up in the US were all from when Obama was still in office.  Moreover, the examples are merely anecdotal and not indicative of the state of outsourcing/insourcing.  

Maybe you should try actually READING those links instead of pretending. Those are companies who left America, taking ALL those jobs with them, based on the asinine policies of Saddam Hussein Obama.

His stupid stimulus package gave BILLIONS to startup solar companies that produced ZERO jobs and ZERO kilowatt hours of electricity.

https://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/Barack-Obama-Solyndra-Scandal-Green-Energy/2015/01/29/id/621537/

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Here are eight facts about the Barack Obama Solyndra scandal:

1. In 2009, the California-based green energy solar panel manufacturer Solyndra received a $535 million loan. The stimulus-funded loan, which was originally applied for in 2006 under the Bush Administration, was guaranteed by the Department of Energy.

2. While visiting Solyndra in May of 2010, President Barack Obama claimed Solyndra was “leading the way toward a brighter and more prosperous future.”

3. In August of 2011, The Washington Post reported that Solyndra shut down, "leaving 1,100 people out of work and taxpayers obligated for $535 million in federal loans." According to Solyndra Chief Executive Brian Harrison, "Regulatory and policy uncertainties made it impossible to raise capital to quickly rescue the operation."

4. The Solyndra controversy was elevated to a scandal when it was revealed that Office of Management and Budget officials felt pressured to approve the loan, despite an awareness of Solyndra's financial instability. ABC News reported, "The deal later came under scrutiny from independent government watch dogs and members of Congress, which said the administration had bypassed key taxpayer protections in a rush to approve the funds — claims the administration has denied."

5. Reporter Chris Good from The Atlantic wrote, "If White House officials handled taxpayer dollars irresponsibly for the sake of promoting Obama's signature piece of legislation at the time, it would constitute a potential ethical lapse that resonates with criticisms against the stimulus and ballooning deficits."

6. Questions about potential political motivations behind the special treatment of the Solyndra loan further fueled the green energy scandal. The Week reported, "The family foundation of billionaire George Kaiser, an Obama fundraiser, is one of Solyndra's big investors. The GOP says that Team Obama interfered to speed up the loan approval, cutting short due diligence so that Vice President Joe Biden could announce the loan at the Sept. 4, 2009, groundbreaking of a new Solyndra factory being financed by that government cash."

7. Newly appointed White House Ebola response coordinator Ron Klain was previously Joe Biden's chief of staff. According to The Washington Post, Klain "dismissed auditor’s concerns about Solyndra’s solvency, reasoning that all innovative companies come with risk."

8. Thomas Pyle of U.S. News wrote an article on the issuance of new loan guarantees to additional green companies despite the Solyndra scandal. "Now here we are, $535 billion in wasted taxpayer dollars later, and it seems that the administration is intent on going full speed ahead. In fact, the president recently said in an interview that the Solyndra deal was 'a good bet.' Talk about a disconnect."

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Obama was one of the WORST presidents when it came to the economy.  And Unelected Joe had to prove he was even worse.

[Rebound]

1 minute ago, reason10 said:

Maybe you should try actually READING those links instead of pretending. Those are companies who left America, taking ALL those jobs with them, based on the asinine policies of Saddam Hussein Obama.

His stupid stimulus package gave BILLIONS to startup solar companies that produced ZERO jobs and ZERO kilowatt hours of electricity.

https://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/Barack-Obama-Solyndra-Scandal-Green-Energy/2015/01/29/id/621537/

Obama was one of the WORST presidents when it came to the economy.  And Unelected Joe had to prove he was even worse.

Obama took office in the midst of a near-total collapse of our banking and financial system. Bush didn’t even know what to do about it.  Obama rescued our economy and the housing and stock markets both roared back. So I think you’re full of nonsense.  

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3 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Obama took office in the midst of a near-total collapse of our banking and financial system. Bush didn’t even know what to do about it.  Obama rescued our economy and the housing and stock markets both roared back. So I think you’re full of nonsense.  

That is a LIE.

Obama took office during a mild recession. His policies PROLONGED that recession.

https://patch.com/new-hampshire/concord-nh/bp--obama-inherited-a-post-recession-economy-yes-you-1a55eada4d

https://www.johnlocke.org/have-obamas-policies-turned-an-average-recession-into-a-great-one/
 

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If you’re simply looking at the graph, what’s important to note is that each line starts at the beginning of a post-World War II recession. You’ll see that in most cases, job recovery has started within 12 months. No other post-War recession has seen the same job loss — by percentage — as we’ve seen under current circumstances.

And despite the cries from Obama partisans that the president has simply inherited a tanking economy, the graph also shows that job losses reached greater depths and extended longer in time after our 44th president had a chance to work his economic magic.

 

https://thedailyhatch.org/2013/01/17/did-obama-prolong-the-recession-with-the-auto-baleout/
 

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Instead of letting the companies declare bankruptcy, Obama decided to “bail them out” by taking them over. Once the administration had control of the companies, it had them file for bankruptcy, just as they would have done without the government takeover. Stockholders still lost everything, but so did Chrysler’s bond holders. Instead of renegotiating union contracts, the administration gave the unions greater say over the companies. In other words, the administration didn’t bail out the companies; it bailed out the unions at the expense of (in Chrysler’s case) the bondholders.

In doing so, the administration created uncertainty in the bond market. Bonds were supposed to be safer investments than stocks. But who would want to invest in long-term bonds if the government could step in at any time and void the legal rights of the bond owners? The result is that bond sellers must be willing to pay more interest to attract buyers.

In short, the Obama auto bailout probably didn’t save many jobs (though it probably did keep worker pay uncompetitively high). Instead, it is more likely that the Obama administration’s action prolonged the recession by discouraging private investment in American industry.

 

Housing crisis? Guess which ACORN ambulance chaser set the stage for that.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obama-administration-fueling-another-subprime-mortgage-bubble/

The Obama Subprime Bubble

[Rebound]

3 hours ago, reason10 said:

Actually, in two counties the job requires a bachelor's degree. I was looking at certifying in another county (one that pays more because the real estate is valued a lot more.) The minimum there is 120 hours.

Also, I do not live in Orange county, and you couldn't get me to return there at gun point. It's a hell hole.

As far as qualifying for ANY job, you have zero room to talk. Welfare checks do not require ANY education at all. Judging by the uneducated responses you have been vomiting all over this forum, I'd say you don't even have a blue state middle school education.

I drive a car that costs more than you make in a year.  And so does my other car.  So enough with the pissing contest, because I don’t like to operate that way. There’s always a wealthier guy.
 

But you do not seem to understand how to cite a primary source, or what a primary source is.  You don’t seem to understand the difference between fact and editorial.  And when you claim that financial figures from the Us Treasury or Social Security Administrated are falsified, you lose all credibility.  
 

But you’ve convinced us that the government lies, because you work for the government and you lie. Mostly because you don’t seem to know fact from fiction. 

Edited November 11, 2022 by Rebound

[reason10]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

I drive a car that costs more than you make in a year.  And so does my other car.  So enough with the pissing contest, because I don’t like to operate that way. There’s always a wealthier guy.
 

But you do not seem to understand how to cite a primary source, or what a primary source is.  You don’t seem to understand the difference between fact and editorial.  And when you claim that financial figures from the Us Treasury or Social Security Administrated are falsified, you lose all credibility.  
 

But you’ve convinced us that the government lies, because you work for the government and you lie. Mostly because you don’t seem to know fact from fiction. 

Yeah, right. And you are the sole CEO of the largest company in the galaxy, one that stretches several planets as well as the Klingon Empire. And it's very easy to lie here. None of this exists. So how about you just grow the fck up and enough with YOUR pissing contest. We know what you are. No CEO has as much free time to bullschit people as you have.

I understand reliable sources versus unreliable sources. And Earth to Uneducated One, a source is NOT automatically converted to "reliable" status with the addition of the adjective "primary."

As far as my lying, I don't have to. I'm right and you're wrong. I'm the one bringing FACTS. You are the one bringing the lies. I don't work for the government, (at least not the Federal government), so I have no real stake in the way things turn out. Maybe I'm lucky my state government is that of Florida, the most intelligent state in the union.

If you can't handle that, just go outside and kick the side of the house. I hear CHILDREN do that all the time when working out their tantrums.

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5 hours ago, reason10 said:

 

Obama was one of the WORST presidents when it came to the economy.  And Unelected Joe had to prove he was even worse.

Are these some of the so-called "facts" you've been telling us about? 

And yet, the actual data shows that Obama, who took office at the peak of the Great Recession, still managed to outperform Trump, Bush 1 and Bush 2 in every metric.

Better on deficit. Better on GDP. Better on jobs. Better on stocks. Better on deficits.

Comparisons are plentiful and easy to fine. This one is very user friendly. Or go do your own with primary sources. Trump told you his economy was awesome. One more thing he lied about. Hell, even if you throw out the pandemic year, Trump took over a healthy economy, started "printing money" with increased deficit spending and still didn't accomplish much except putting us into a poor position to deal with an actual disruptive event. Trump's a loser through and through. No surprise he was a one-termer.

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1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Are these some of the so-called "facts" you've been telling us about? 

And yet, the actual data shows that Obama, who took office at the peak of the Great Recession, still managed to outperform Trump, Bush 1 and Bush 2 in every metric.

Better on deficit. Better on GDP. Better on jobs. Better on stocks. Better on deficits.

Comparisons are plentiful and easy to fine. This one is very user friendly. Or go do your own with primary sources. Trump told you his economy was awesome. One more thing he lied about. Hell, even if you throw out the pandemic year, Trump took over a healthy economy, started "printing money" with increased deficit spending and still didn't accomplish much except putting us into a poor position to deal with an actual disruptive event. Trump's a loser through and through. No surprise he was a one-termer.

My links showed Obama outsourced jobs to China. In other links I proved the Trump policies out performed EVERY Democrat in history.

The only reason Trump was a one termer was voter fraud.

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28 minutes ago, reason10 said:

My links showed Obama outsourced jobs to China. In other links I proved the Trump policies out performed EVERY Democrat in history.

The only reason Trump was a one termer was voter fraud.

Your links "prove" that you don't know the difference between fact and opinion. You've shared opinion, now try dealing with facts. Look at the numbers.

Higher GDP growth. More jobs. More stock growth. Reducing deficits vs growing deficits. Etc.   Obama performed better in every category. 

You say the Obama economy was one of the worst ever, yet you are factually incorrect in every way. You claim Trump outperforms every Democrat in history, when his results poorer in every way. Hm... Shameless lies? Ignorance? Credulousness? All of the above? 

I don't think you're capable of sorting and comparing the data, but I'm rooting for you to surprise us. Let's just start with one. Find some primary sources and go for it. Good luck, because the fact is that Obama started with a terrible economy and it recovered to a healthy, growing economy. Trump took over a healthy, growing economy and left it terrible. There are obviously extenuating circumstances for both men, but the tale of the tape is what it is. Trump loses by a landslide.