Another Mass Shooting

[ExFlyer]

2 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

I'll give you that one. I forgot about it. But even it didn't appear as part of a years long unbroken series of American attacks identifiable as sectarian violence.

You could maybe group it with 9/11 though, now that I think about it. Also the Oklahoma City bombing, both of which happened under Clinton. Not to mention Waco and Ruby Ridge speaking of sectarian violence. And again, as I recall, Clinton was a Democrat.

Didn't 9/11 start it all with muslims??

[Infidel Dog]

6 minutes ago, Aristides said:

USS Cole 2000.

Happened in Yemen. Wasn't American Domestic sectarian violence, like say the Oklahoma bombing, Waco, or Ruby Ridge. For that matter all the series of Islamo-fascist sectarian violence that happened under Obama following Fort Hood. They were a distinctive phenomena.

[Infidel Dog]

1 minute ago, ExFlyer said:

Didn't 9/11 start it all with muslims??

Mohammed started it all with the Muslims.

If you're talking about this round though you could maybe go back to the creation of Israel. That would be their story anyway, I think. It would at least go back to the creation of the Muslim Brotherhood.

[Aristides]

2 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Happened in Yemen. Wasn't American Domestic sectarian violence, like say the Oklahoma bombing, Waco, or Ruby Ridge. For that matter all the series of Islamo-fascist sectarian violence that happened under Obama following Fort Hood. They were a distinctive phenomena.

Oklahoma, Waco and Ruby Ridge  were all in the nineties for crying out loud. What the hell did they have to do with Obama?

[Aristides]

2 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Mohammed started it all with the Muslims.

If you're talking about this round though you could maybe go back to the creation of Israel. That would be their story anyway, I think. It would at least go back to the creation of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Actually it was the Crusades. Particularly the siege of Acre and Richard III to be more specific.

Edited May 18, 2022 by Aristides

[Infidel Dog]

Ok, one more time then...

This tangential spin-off discussion from the thread began with Eyeball claiming American sectarian violence was a thing of the right.

Much to your disappointment, I bet, that didn't necessarily have anything to do with Muslims.

[Infidel Dog]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

Actually it was the Crusades. Particularly the siege of Acre and Richard III to be more specific.

Actually the Crusades also goes back to Mohammed. He believed his followers needed to attack and take the lands of what he called "Rome." So they did. The Christians countered.

[Aristides]

2 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Ok, one more time then...

This tangential spin-off discussion from the thread began with Eyeball claiming American sectarian violence was a thing of the right.

Much to your disappointment, I bet, that didn't necessarily have anything to do with Muslims.

Not my disappointment. Are you seriously saying the Branch Davidians, Timmothy McVeigh and the Weavers were all lefties? Just because they weren't Muslim doesn't mean the weren't disciples of the far right.

[Aristides]

15 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Actually the Crusades also goes back to Mohammed. He believed his followers needed to attack and take the lands of what he called "Rome." So they did. The Christians countered.

Muslims were quite tolerant of all religions until Richard III had 2700 prisoners beheaded after the siege of Acre. Saladin retaliated by executing all his Christian prisoners.

Edited May 18, 2022 by Aristides

[Infidel Dog]

Bullshit. Try something that isn't Google. You're so wrong I'm not even going to waste my time trying to show you how wrong you are. 

Unless you insist. 

[Infidel Dog]

8 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Not my disappointment. Are you seriously saying the Branch Davidians, Timmothy McVeigh and the Weavers were all lefties? Just because they weren't Muslim doesn't mean the weren't disciples of the far right.

No. They weren't lefties. Just non-affiliated anti-government, pychos. Same as this Payton Gendron guy who shot up the super market in Buffalo. Although he claimed he was a leftist.

Happened under Democrat regimes though.

So where is Eyeball getting the idea it's always sparked by Republicans then?

Edited May 18, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[ExFlyer]

And then there is the topic of Mass Shootings in the US? LOL

It is so amusing that no matter the topic is, it always becomes a pissing contest between lefties and righties LOL

Edited May 18, 2022 by ExFlyer

[eyeball]

6 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Eyeball and you both seem to have forgotten this tangential discussion concerned Eyeball's claim sectarian violence was a distinctive thing to Republicans. It wasn't. 

That's right, it'll always take two to Tango, I merely said I think the Republicans started it and seem to be beating the drum for another American civil war the hardest.

They wouldn't have to hit one another if they'd only stop making each other angry.

[eyeball]

6 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Where is Eyeball getting the idea it's always sparked by Republicans then?

He isn't, that's the caricature of me in your head saying that

[Infidel Dog]

You sure about that? Would you like to take this back then?

On 5/17/2022 at 11:10 AM, eyeball said:

I'm not but I'm certainly claiming you guys started it and nurture it the hardest.

 

[Infidel Dog]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

That's right, it'll always take two to Tango, I merely said I think the Republicans started it

Started what? The factionalizing of America and pitting groups against political rivals as a noticeable phenomena started under the Obama regime. BLM, Antifa, and the list of violent leftists or allies of the left pointed at the right rooted in the Obama era goes on and on

So if it's not a series of conflicts but just one long one, you're still wrong. It was the left that started it and they still nurture it. Ask Maxine Waters. Ask Joy Behar. Ask Payton Gendron. He says he came out of the left. 

Edited May 19, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[Infidel Dog]

Ask Floyd Lee Corkins about the leftist influences to commit violence in the Obama era:

"

The Family Research Council shooter, who pleaded guilty today to a terrorism charge, picked his target off a "hate map" on the website of the ultra-liberal Southern Poverty Law Center which is upset with the conservative group's opposition to gay rights.

Floyd Lee Corkins II pleaded guilty to three charges including a charge of committing an act of terrorism related to the August 15, 2012 injuring of FRC's guard. He told the FBI that he wanted to kill anti-gay targets and went to the law center's website for ideas."

Edited May 19, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[Infidel Dog]

In fact, ask Obama:

Sheesh...I almost can't believe the lefties at Snopes are admitting it. Guess they think it 's cool.

Edited May 19, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[eyeball]

9 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

You sure about that? Would you like to take this back then?

Not at all. 

 

9 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Started what? The factionalizing of America and pitting groups against political rivals as a noticeable phenomena started under the Obama regime. BLM, Antifa, and the list of violent leftists or allies of the left pointed at the right rooted in the Obama era goes on and on

So if it's not a series of conflicts but just one long one, you're still wrong. It was the left that started it and they still nurture it. Ask Maxine Waters. Ask Joy Behar. Ask Payton Gendron. He says he came out of the left. 

It all started under Joe McCarthy in the 50's when Republicans infected America with its paranoia about commies under every bed.  This paranoia caused Republican president (Eisenhower) to go ahead and overthrow Iran's duly elected government after a Democratic President (Truman) had given a resounding thumbs down to an idea that was clearly wrong, immoral and against America's democratic principles.

There's a reason why conservatives are called reactionary and the fact they have such a loose grip on reality not to mention principles is why America and much of world is increasingly falling off the rails.

As for Democrats, they've since sacrificed enough of their own and America's principles just out of sheer caving to Republicans to be as worthless. There's a very good reason for saying there's 'a pox on both houses'.  

Edited May 19, 2022 by eyeball

[Aristides]

9 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

In fact, ask Obama:

Sheesh...I almost can't believe the lefties at Snopes are admitting it. Guess they think it 's cool.

Actually Sean Connery first said it in The Untouchables 1987.

[Infidel Dog]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

Actually Sean Connery first said it in The Untouchables 1987.

Sean Connery wasn't the President of the United States. Obama wasn't in a movie. He was speaking at a Democrat fund raiser.

[Aristides]

2 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Sean Connery wasn't the President of the United States. Obama wasn't in a movie. He was speaking at a Democrat fund raiser.

It was a dumb thing to say but when did it ever happen? Democrats didn't sack the Capital Building with Trump, Giuliani and company egging them on.

Edited May 19, 2022 by Aristides

[Infidel Dog]

5 minutes ago, Aristides said:

It was a dumb thing to say but when did it ever happen? Democrats did't sack the Capital Building with Trump, Giuliani and company egging them on.

Saying dumb things encouraging violence and law breaking continues to this day from Dems.

It's against the law to protest in front of Justice's homes. There's a reason for that.

When asked why officials seemed to be allowing angry rioter types protesting in front of Supreme Court justices homes Biden mouthpiece, Jen Psaki more or less shrugged and said, "Oh well, people are understandably upset."

Remember those mobs bashing on the doors while they decided on selecting Kavanaugh as Supreme court justice. Come to think of it, wasn't a Democrat congress woman part of that?

During the BLM "protests" rioters were attacking Government offices like it was an authorized playbook of the Democrat party.

[Aristides]

12 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Saying dumb things encouraging violence and law breaking continues to this day from Dems.

It's against the law to protest in front of Justice's homes. There's a reason for that.

When asked why officials seemed to be allowing angry rioter types protesting in front of Supreme Court justices homes Biden mouthpiece, Jen Psaki more or less shrugged and said, "Oh well, people are understandably upset."

Remember those mobs bashing on the doors while they decided on selecting Kavanaugh as Supreme court justice. Come to think of it, wasn't a Democrat congress woman part of that?

During the BLM "protests" rioters were attacking Government offices like it was an authorized playbook of the Democrat party.

Trump was and is the king of saying dumb things.

Kavanaugh lied under oath to Congress when he said as far as he was concerned Roe vs Wade was settled. You obviously like liars on supreme courts as long as they pursue your agenda.

Edited May 19, 2022 by Aristides

[Infidel Dog]

30 minutes ago, eyeball said:

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

Trump was and is the king of saying dumb things.

If he was he's been massively dethroned by Dementia Joe and his court of jesters like Jen Psaki.