The Lie of Economic Impact from Border Blockade Debunked

Dougie93 · April 30, 2022

8 hours ago, cougar said:

I like the one you have above, but find this one even better for some reason.

then we share this in common

that's my favorite rock song and my favorite video for it

and this is my favorite Neil Young

old school

Edited April 30, 2022 by Dougie93

Oksanna · April 30, 2022

7 hours ago, West said:

Yes I'm sure. "Vlad bad".

I don't care about Vladamir. I care about Trudeau denying service unless you take his juices. Pretty sick puppy and those who support the man are just as bad

So, you are such a quivering little coward that you run in fear at the thought of a tiny little pinprick to stop the deaths of thousands every day? The same little pinprick that millions of little girls were perfectly brave about? Not only that, but you think your crippling nonsensical fear of doing a tiny part for your country and humankind in general is a bigger issue than the wanton murder and destruction of ACTUAL freedom and innocent lives by one of the worst humans on Earth? AND, you are going to squeal about how it's Trudeau's problem? I have met some squalling cowardly children, but get your crap together for 2 seconds man!

West · April 30, 2022

1 hour ago, Oksanna said:

So, you are such a quivering little coward that you run in fear at the thought of a tiny little pinprick to stop the deaths of thousands every day? The same little pinprick that millions of little girls were perfectly brave about? Not only that, but you think your crippling nonsensical fear of doing a tiny part for your country and humankind in general is a bigger issue than the wanton murder and destruction of ACTUAL freedom and innocent lives by one of the worst humans on Earth? AND, you are going to squeal about how it's Trudeau's problem? I have met some squalling cowardly children, but get your crap together for 2 seconds man!

It's not a fear of a pinprick. It's having a sick man like Trudeau and yourself DEMAND that people take some injection that I and others were never at risk of dying from in the first place (I had covid well before the vaxx roll out and never landed in hospital).

It's mean spirited, spiteful little pieces of garbage like you who are driving people out of business and driving inflation through the roof because of your pathetic paranoia over a flu bug that I take issue with... psychopaths yelling at you over a mask in a Starbucks even though you are perfectly healthy.

Then claiming "oh you aren't losing any freedoms" while the gestapo kick down your door over a family dinner or raid your church for daring to hold a church service. That's pathetic and people who support that are psychopaths.

Oh and if you care about the Ukraine so much, enlist in the army and go there. Nobody is stopping you.. stop crying "vlad bad" and go.. you won't cause your a coward

Oksanna · April 30, 2022

2 minutes ago, West said:

It's not a fear of a pinprick. It's having a sick man like Trudeau and yourself DEMAND that people take some injection that I and others were never at risk of dying from in the first place (I had covid well before the vaxx roll out and never landed in hospital).

It's mean spirited, spiteful little pieces of garbage like you who are driving people out of business and driving inflation through the roof because of your pathetic paranoia over a flu bug that I take issue with... psychopaths yelling at you over a mask in a Starbucks even though you are perfectly healthy.

Then claiming "oh you aren't losing any freedoms" while the gestapo kick down your door over a family dinner or raid your church for daring to hold a church service. That's pathetic and people who support that are psychopaths.

Oh and if you care about the Ukraine so much, enlist in the army and go there. Nobody is stopping you.. stop crying "vlad bad" and go.. you won't cause your a coward

Ok, you aren't a terrified spoiled little brat. Your cowardice is soo much more important than the thousands dying every day. If you love putin so much and are so scared of tiny shots, then why don't you move to russia?

West · April 30, 2022

3 minutes ago, Oksanna said:

Ok, you aren't a terrified spoiled little brat. Your cowardice is soo much more important than the thousands dying every day. If you love putin so much and are so scared of tiny shots, then why don't you move to russia?

Your scared of the flu. Sad little boy.

There's been less than a thousand deaths of people under 55 years old.. yet we've locked down millions, put them at risk of foreclosure, etc. Just so that sad little people like you can virtue signal. You are pathetic.

The fact that YOU feel YOU can impose a medical procedure on someone is seriously psychotic and you should get some help

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Oksanna · April 30, 2022

1 minute ago, West said:

Your scared of the flu. Sad little boy

I am scared of spreading a flu that has killed a million Americans, and millions worldwide to other people who have a good chance of dying. I'm good enough to sacrifice a tiny little poke in the arm to end a pandemic that's murdering millions, and causing worldwide disruptions of all kinds. You are cowering like trebling little leaf in the corner of an amount of pain millions of little girls have laughed at because they are so much tougher than you.

If you are this worthless of a little sissy, If you are this selfish and useless, why should anyone give you any services? You are a drain on all the better people.

West · April 30, 2022

5 minutes ago, Oksanna said:

I am scared of spreading a flu that has killed a million Americans, and millions worldwide to other people who have a good chance of dying. I'm good enough to sacrifice a tiny little poke in the arm to end a pandemic that's murdering millions, and causing worldwide disruptions of all kinds. You are cowering like trebling little leaf in the corner of an amount of pain millions of little girls have laughed at because they are so much tougher than you.

If you are this worthless of a little sissy, If you are this selfish and useless, why should anyone give you any services? You are a drain on all the better people.

Then stay home..

Let the rest of us assess our own risk.

By the way I'm vaccinated.. just think it's pathetic when pathetic people like you cower in fear over eating next to those dirty anti vaxxers in a restaurant. Now that's not normal...

And I think you are a sad, scared little boy and that's what these restrictions boil down to. Nothing to do with public health.. just irrational people acting out of fear of some people they disagree with. It's pathetic.. especially for a supposedly "educated" portion of the population

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Oksanna · April 30, 2022

3 minutes ago, West said:

Then stay home..

Let the rest of us assess our own risk.

By the way I'm vaccinated.. just think it's pathetic when pathetic people like you cower in fear over eating next to those dirty anti vaxxers in a restaurant. Now that's not normal...

And I think you are a sad, scared little boy and that's what these restrictions boil down to. Nothing to do with public health.. just irrational people acting out of fear of some people they disagree with. It's pathetic.. especially for a supposedly "educated" portion of the population

Just stay home doesn't work. People still die. We can't end the pandemic without getting a large majority vaccinated. And, if you are vaccinated, but fighting against it, you just love watching others die huh? Just enjoy genocide? That still makes you a coward.

West · April 30, 2022

4 minutes ago, Oksanna said:

Just stay home doesn't work. People still die. We can't end the pandemic without getting a large majority vaccinated. And, if you are vaccinated, but fighting against it, you just love watching others die huh? Just enjoy genocide? That still makes you a coward.

No. I just don't love watching people lose jobs over a damn vaccine or watching police charge old ladies with horses or club peacefully protesters like they are a fish. To me that's sick and demented. Especially people who have statistically a zero percent chance of dying.

And no, the vaccine isn't doing a very good job of stopping transmission. I know several tripple jabbed whove gotten covid. So you are out of touch there.

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Oksanna · April 30, 2022

8 minutes ago, West said:

No. I just don't love watching people lose jobs over a damn vaccine or watching police charge old ladies with horses or club peacefully protesters like they are a fish. To me that's sick and demented. Especially people who have statistically a zero percent chance of dying.

And no, the vaccine isn't doing a very good job of stopping transmission. I know several tripple jabbed whove gotten covid. So you are out of touch there.

You don't love people losing their job for being too childish to help stop a pandemic?

Are you stupid? Or do you intentionally not understand anything about how something spreads? If it's the former, then you should probably shut up, if its the latter, then you will never be punished enough.

West · April 30, 2022

4 minutes ago, Oksanna said:

You don't love people losing their job for being too childish to help stop a pandemic?

Are you stupid? Or do you intentionally not understand anything about how something spreads? If it's the former, then you should probably shut up, if its the latter, then you will never be punished enough.

Oh give it up. Covid is going to be here regardless of the vaccine.. you are delusional if you think the vaxx is going to end covid.

The vaccine acts no different than your yearly flu vaccine. You can still get the flu. Most don't need a flu vaccine because their immune system is strong enough to fight it off.. I'd suggest you are the one who's stupid if you think "if we just got enough vaccinated it'd go away"

Oksanna · April 30, 2022

1 minute ago, West said:

Oh give it up. Covid is going to be here regardless of the vaccine.. you are delusional if you think the vaxx is going to end covid.

The vaccine acts no different than your yearly flu vaccine. You can still get the flu. Most don't need a flu vaccine because their immune system is strong enough to fight it off.. I'd suggest you are the one who's stupid if you think "if we just got enough vaccinated it'd go away"

To whatever extent that this is true, it is true because of you. What this probably means is that you idiots didn't just murder the hundreds of thousands that could have been saved by getting a vaccine, but all of the people in the future that might have been saved had you guys been better, or just even a tiny bit good.

West · April 30, 2022

3 minutes ago, Oksanna said:

To whatever extent that this is true, it is true because of you. What this probably means is that you idiots didn't just murder the hundreds of thousands that could have been saved by getting a vaccine, but all of the people in the future that might have been saved had you guys been better, or just even a tiny bit good.

Your messed. I am not responsible for somebody getting a flu bug. People die every year from the flu (as many as 30,000 in Canada). Where was your fake outrage then?

Let me guess, you clapped along while your hero truey marched with thousands at a rally during a pandemic? Because the press tells you that's an "acceptable cause" whereas attending a church service will no doubt "kill people".

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West · April 30, 2022

Leftists be all like "OMG WE ARE ALL GONNA DIEEEE. DO SOMETHING. LOCK UP BUSINESSES. FIRE PEOPLE IF THEY DON'T AGREE WITH MEEEEE"

"Okay but most people recover naturally from the bug. Why should they lose their livelihoods over it? Don't you think that can cause issues of its own"?

"WHATS THE MATTER WITH YOU? YOU WANT PEOPLE DEAD????"

"No I just think it's ridiculous to force mandate people into vaccines and to force people to forego rent or food over a flu bug"

"YOU WANT PEOPLE DEAADDDDD. UKRAINE. VLAD BAD. DEAAAD"

About the extent of a discussion with the pathetic psychopaths on the left.

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Oksanna · April 30, 2022

4 minutes ago, West said:

Your messed. I am not responsible for somebody getting a flu bug. People die every year from the flu (as many as 30,000 in Canada). Where was your fake outrage then?

Let me guess, you clapped along while your hero truey marched with thousands at a rally during a pandemic? Because the press tells you that's an "acceptable cause" whereas attending a church service will no doubt "kill people".

You certainly are if you encouraged folks to not get vaccinated, if you flaunted the vaccine, went to church, didn't wear masks, etc.. Sure, people aren't perfect, but you actively tried to make conditions favorable for spread, favorable for mutation favorable to kill people.

I don't know much of anything about Trudeau, but an outdoor march masked and distanced is sure not the same thing as a cramped unmasked church with yelling and singing. Especially if the march was for something important.

Also, even if Trudeau was hypocritical, that sure doesn't make you ok for being a killer does it?

Oksanna · April 30, 2022

3 minutes ago, West said:

Leftists be all like "OMG WE ARE ALL GONNA DIEEEE. DO SOMETHING. LOCK UP BUSINESSES. FIRE PEOPLE IF THEY DON'T AGREE WITH MEEEEE"

"Okay but most people recover naturally from the bug. Why should they lose their livelihoods over it? Don't you think that can cause issues of its own"?

"WHATS THE MATTER WITH YOU? YOU WANT PEOPLE DEAD????"

"No I just think it's ridiculous to force mandate people into vaccines and to force people to forego rent or food over a flu bug"

"YOU WANT PEOPLE DEAADDDDD. UKRAINE. VLAD BAD. DEAAAD"

About the extent of a discussion with the pathetic psychopaths on the left.

No, the discussion is that millions of people are dying. Sure YOUR odds of dying are low, so you are therefore unwilling to make even the tiniest of sacrifices like a mask or vaccine to save millions of lives. THAT'S the conversation.

Oksanna · April 30, 2022

10 minutes ago, West said:

Your messed. I am not responsible for somebody getting a flu bug. People die every year from the flu (as many as 30,000 in Canada). Where was your fake outrage then?

Let me guess, you clapped along while your hero truey marched with thousands at a rally during a pandemic? Because the press tells you that's an "acceptable cause" whereas attending a church service will no doubt "kill people".

By the way, think how much you idiots sacrifice to protect against crime or terrorism. What is the annual death toll of those?

West · April 30, 2022

4 minutes ago, Oksanna said:

You certainly are if you encouraged folks to not get vaccinated, if you flaunted the vaccine, went to church, didn't wear masks, etc.. Sure, people aren't perfect, but you actively tried to make conditions favorable for spread, favorable for mutation favorable to kill people.

I don't know much of anything about Trudeau, but an outdoor march masked and distanced is sure not the same thing as a cramped unmasked church with yelling and singing. Especially if the march was for something important.

Also, even if Trudeau was hypocritical, that sure doesn't make you ok for being a killer does it?

I dont pry into people's personal medical decisions or hold something theyve done freely over their whole lives over their head over a medical decision. It's creepy.

Oh yes the million excuses you fools use. It's just those dirty right wingers spreading the virus eh?

West · April 30, 2022

6 minutes ago, Oksanna said:

No, the discussion is that millions of people are dying. Sure YOUR odds of dying are low, so you are therefore unwilling to make even the tiniest of sacrifices like a mask or vaccine to save millions of lives. THAT'S the conversation.

No the discussion is free will and assessing your own personal risk. As you do with countless other things such as driving, canoeing, riding your bike, walking down the street, not taking medication etc. Why we all the sudden lost our marbles because of this one is odd

Nobody's forcing you to leave your home. People were forcing me to forego activities that are good for my physical and mental health such as attending a gym or holding a job because they were "very very scared".

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West · April 30, 2022

7 minutes ago, Oksanna said:

By the way, think how much you idiots sacrifice to protect against crime or terrorism. What is the annual death toll of those?

What?

As far as I'm concerned, freedoms have been eroded probably since 9/11. I was just as opposed to those as I am to crazies demanding you shut down your source of income and "just be thankful" for a $2000 cerb payment that's not even going to meet your mortgage in most cases.

Nothing "selfish" about not wanting my kids living out of a cardboard box just to appease the crazies.

West · April 30, 2022

What I find is the loons claiming the nonsense such as the above probably never really had to sacrifice anything. Find it funny how he talks about sacrifice. Yet probably drew in a full salary while working from his bunker.

Meanwhile people who actually run businesses or didn't have the luxury of working from the bunker were laid off or foreclosed due to government incompetence and lunatics like the above poster. They were the ones who had nonsensical things slapped on them, like having to invest thousands of dollars in the ridiculous plastic dividers in restaurants, had to watch their backs to ensure the lunatics weren't calling the health authority on their business over ridiculous things like face diapers, and took the abuse from both sides.

They yell about "sacrifice" but what have they sacrificed? Likely not much... got to yell their virtue while maintaining full salary. Very out of touch.

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Oksanna · April 30, 2022

6 minutes ago, West said:

No the discussion is free will and assessing your own personal risk. As you do with countless other things such as driving, canoeing, riding your bike, walking down the street, not taking medication etc. Why we all the sudden lost our marbles because of this one is odd

Nobody's forcing you to leave your home. People were forcing me to forego activities that are good for my physical and mental health such as attending a gym or holding a job because they were "very very scared".

We're 'loosing our marbles' because millions are dying, and the sacrifices being asked to stop it are next to nothing, and you little killers are absolutely losing your minds over it.

Sure, we had freedom to drive, but now there's a park there with lots of people, and if you drive there you go to jail. Sure, your life is a tiny bit more inconvenient, but in exchange people don't die.

West · April 30, 2022

5 minutes ago, Oksanna said:

We're 'loosing our marbles' because millions are dying, and the sacrifices being asked to stop it are next to nothing, and you little killers are absolutely losing your minds over it.

Sure, we had freedom to drive, but now there's a park there with lots of people, and if you drive there you go to jail. Sure, your life is a tiny bit more inconvenient, but in exchange people don't die.

There's been virtually no change in mortality rate. Why? Because the "millions who are dying" were in palliative care, likely with end stage cancer or something of that nature.

And no I'm not minimizing death. Death is a part of life. But when the average age of death due to "covid" is well above the average life expectancy, then why the hell are you advocating for lunatic policy like business closures?

Edited April 30, 2022 by West

Oksanna · April 30, 2022

6 minutes ago, West said:

There's been virtually no change in mortality rate. Why? Because the "millions who are dying" were in palliative care, likely with end stage cancer or something of that nature.

And no I'm not minimizing death. Death is a part of life. But when the average age of death due to "covid" is well above the average life expectancy, then why the hell are you advocating for lunatic policy like business closures?

First of all, there have been changes in the mortality rate. But, pretty much everyone dying for the last year or so has been unvaccinated. And, when you get into nazi-like arguments such as 'they are old so kill them' you know you are on the POS end of the spectrum.

West · April 30, 2022

2 minutes ago, Oksanna said:

First of all, there have been changes in the mortality rate. But, pretty much everyone dying for the last year or so has been unvaccinated. And, when you get into nazi-like arguments such as 'they are old so kill them' you know you are on the POS end of the spectrum.

I never said "they are old so kill them". Thats a very warped and twisted summation of the argument.

I'm saying death is a normal part of life. No matter how many lives you decide to ruin, that 80 something year old with palliative stage four cancer is going to pass away....

But yet it's more tragic to you and somehow more noteworthy if they die of covid? Very strange..

Edited April 30, 2022 by West