Infidel Dog Posted January 25, 2022 Report Posted January 25, 2022 " Monoclonal antibody sites throughout Florida will be closed after the Food and Drug Administration adjusted its authorization for the COVID-19 treatment. The new FDA policy only allows those "likely to have been infected with or exposed to a variant that is susceptible to these treatments" to receive the new medication, despite Florida's leadership advocating for its use among the populace. "This indefensible edict takes treatment out of the hands of medical professionals and will cost some Americans their lives," Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said in a Monday statement. "There are real-world implications to Biden's medical authoritarianism — Americans' access to treatments is now subject to the whims of a failing president." DeSantis claimed in a Tuesday tweet that the Biden administration revoked the authorization "without a shred of clinical evidence." https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fda-florida-monoclonal-antibodies
Infidel Dog Posted January 25, 2022 Author Report Posted January 25, 2022 There's also this from the less mainstream Post Millenial: " As a result of the @US_FDA's abrupt decision to remove the EUAs for two monoclonal antibodies, monoclonal antibody treatment sites will be closed until further notice. Full press release is below. pic.twitter.com/RGeWTPwxCs — Florida Dept. of Health (@HealthyFla) January 25, 2022 "This evening, without any advanced notice, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) revised the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)...The revised EUAs do not allow providers to administer these treatments within the United States," the statement reads. "Unfortunately, as a result of this abrupt decision made by the federal government, all monoclonal antibody state sites will be closed until further notice...Florida disagrees with the decision that blocks access to any available treatments in the absence of clinical evidence." The FDA is trying to make it so that people in Florida die of Covid. They’ll kill people to harm Republicans. Steel yourselves for the evil that is being unleashed. https://t.co/hP55vngVbh — Cernovich (@Cernovich) January 25, 2022 The FDA said Monday the antibody drugs from Regeneron and Eli Lilly should no longer be used because the treatments are unlikely to be effective against the omicron variant, The Associated Press reports. Florida Republican Governor Ron DeSantis has heavily promoted antibody drug treatments as a signature part of his administration's COVID-19 response, setting up infusion sites and lauding them at news conferences, while also encouraging Floridians to get vaccinated. Last September, DeSantis slammed the Biden administration for withholding monoclonal antibody treatments from the state, telling Floridians that he will fight "come hell or high water" to get those treatments for his residents. DeSantis explained that when it became apparent that the treatment was working, the Biden administration took over control of the supply of Regeneron, one of the monoclonal antibody treatments, and cut Florida's supply. https://thepostmillennial.com/fda-prohibits-florida-from-using-monoclonal-antibody-treatments
Infidel Dog Posted January 25, 2022 Author Report Posted January 25, 2022 Covid deaths remain low in Florida in spite of being in peak Omicron. Cases are dropping. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/
Aristides Posted January 26, 2022 Report Posted January 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Infidel Dog said: Covid deaths remain low in Florida in spite of being in peak Omicron. Cases are dropping. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ They are starting to drop everywhere. Florida's death rate is 3.8 times Ontario.
Aristides Posted January 26, 2022 Report Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) Monoclonal antibody treatments cost the federal government $2100 a dose. Why do you need such an expensive treatment if it is "just the flu"? Edited January 26, 2022 by Aristides
Infidel Dog Posted January 26, 2022 Author Report Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Aristides said: They are starting to drop everywhere. Florida's death rate is 3.8 times Ontario. Didn't we do this before? I believe we did (or maybe it was somebody else). Whoever it was we talked the uselessness of comparing states to provinces or provinces to countries. Whatever. That doesn't appear to matter to you. OK, let's try it this way. You seem to be comparing fatality rates which I believe is the percentage of total cases for the length of the pandemic. But the issue here is the use of Monoclonal antibodies since late August. Trump bought the stock of available MCA's after they cured him and made them available to the states. Florida was experiencing the Delta wave in August, 2021. It was hitting Florida hard. So Governor Desantis (who was also cured of covid by MCA's) started opening up centers that made Monoclonal antibodies available to the infected starting in late August. Deaths plummeted to the point Florida was experiencing the lowest death rate in America with the exception of Alaska. I won't bother checking your stats because they're meaningless. You're comparing apples to oranges and you're ignoring the central point. Monoclonal antibodies worked. Florida was able to open up and do better than states that didn't. That's why the Biden administration is trying so hard to see Florida doesn't have access to MCAs. It makes them look bad that an unmandated blue state is doing so well. Also Desantis may run for President in 2024 and they don't want him saving lives and looking good. Ontario should try the Florida model though. Too bad they're too cheap. With an open economy Ontario could afford MCA's. They should consider that, and save lives. Edited January 26, 2022 by Infidel Dog
Infidel Dog Posted January 26, 2022 Author Report Posted January 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Aristides said: Monoclonal antibody treatments cost the federal government $2100 a dose. I guess a human life is worth more to Governor DeSantis than it is to you. Oh well...I guess that's why he's a great Governor and you're not.
Aristides Posted January 26, 2022 Report Posted January 26, 2022 9 hours ago, Infidel Dog said: I guess a human life is worth more to Governor DeSantis than it is to you. Oh well...I guess that's why he's a great Governor and you're not. DeSantis doesn't want to anything to stop the spread but expects the federal government to pay for the consequences. He is an asshole and you are a hypocrite.
Infidel Dog Posted January 26, 2022 Author Report Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) DeSantis saves lives and you don't like it because Biden is killing Floridians by depriving them of their medicine and you would prefer nobody noticed because it casts shade on your ideology. What does that make you? A participant in evil, I think. Willing ignorance or pretending not to notice is no excuse. Edited January 26, 2022 by Infidel Dog 3
Aristides Posted January 26, 2022 Report Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) DeSantis opens everything up so people can run around infecting each other and then he expects the feds to pick up the tab for very expensive medicines to treat them. He is an asshole and you are a hypocrite. On edit. If DeSantis doesn't care how many people are infected, why would he actually care if they get treated? Elementary logic Edited January 26, 2022 by Aristides
Aristides Posted January 26, 2022 Report Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) What bullshit. The FDA removed emergency approval (emergency approval, you know that thing you hated about vaccines) because manufacturers are saying it's effectiveness against Omricon is highly questionable. FDA says approval may be reinstated if further studies show it is effective. It isn't just Florida. Get out of your GD echo chambers for a day or two, you might find it refreshing. Edited January 26, 2022 by Aristides
Aristides Posted January 26, 2022 Report Posted January 26, 2022 The feds took over distribution because seven states were monopolizing 70% of the supply. Quote Alabama, Florida, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Georgia and Louisiana have used so many monoclonal antibodies that the nation’s supply is getting tight and some patients who might have been treated won’t be.
Nationalist Posted January 27, 2022 Report Posted January 27, 2022 15 hours ago, Aristides said: The feds took over distribution because seven states were monopolizing 70% of the supply. Gee...that looks like a list of states that don't mandate the vaccine. What an amazing coincidence... Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted January 27, 2022 Report Posted January 27, 2022 22 hours ago, Aristides said: DeSantis doesn't want to anything to stop the spread but expects the federal government to pay for the consequences. He is an asshole and you are a hypocrite. How can you post this with a clean conscience? We have all seen the success Florida has had with The Rona. Why would anyone be so...evil...as to condemn what's proven to work great? Please explain yourself? I would hate to have to think there are actually people who would rather see people die, than deviate from the prescription of the federal government which appears to be...much less effective. Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Aristides Posted January 27, 2022 Report Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: How can you post this with a clean conscience? We have all seen the success Florida has had with The Rona. Why would anyone be so...evil...as to condemn what's proven to work great? Please explain yourself? I would hate to have to think there are actually people who would rather see people die, than deviate from the prescription of the federal government which appears to be...much less effective. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-monoclonal-antibodies-omicron-fda-florida/ My conscience is clear. Edited January 27, 2022 by Aristides
Infidel Dog Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Posted January 27, 2022 So was Stalin's. So was Mao's. So was Pol Pot's.
Infidel Dog Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Posted January 27, 2022 And I only leave out the obvious guy because I don't want to get into another pointless discussion on that Godwin clown.
Aristides Posted January 27, 2022 Report Posted January 27, 2022 18 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: So was Stalin's. So was Mao's. So was Pol Pot's. Quote And I only leave out the obvious guy because I don't want to get into another pointless discussion on that Godwin clown. Same thing. Stopping treatments that don't work is now one step away from purges, gulags, cultural revolutions and killing fields.
Infidel Dog Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) Vaccines don't work on Omicron. So I guess you're on our side now as far as getting rid of the mandates and compliance passes. Come to think of it cloth masks have never worked. But it sounds like you want to take it even further. By your logic you want to ban vaccines until we see what you earlier called "further studies." Just joking to make a point. I know what you really want. You just want to ban MCAs and other useful therapeutics to purge the voter rolls of non-compliant types. Right, Adolf? Edited January 27, 2022 by Infidel Dog
Aristides Posted January 27, 2022 Report Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Infidel Dog said: Vaccines don't work on Omicron. So I guess you're on our side now as far as getting rid of the mandates and compliance passes. Come to think of it cloth masks have never worked. But it sounds like you want to take it even further. By your logic you want to ban vaccines until we see what you earlier called "further studies." Just joking to make a point. I know what you really want. You just want to ban MCAs and other useful therapeutics to purge the voter rolls of non-compliant types. Right, Adolf? They do with boosters. I don't want to ban anything that works. FDA is trying to increase the supply of Remdesivir to compensate because it does work. Problem with that is, well it's in the article. Edited January 27, 2022 by Aristides
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