The Left and Right wings in Politics

[eyeball]

But first...

The Surprising Origins of 'Left' and 'Right' in Politics

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The terms are metaphors today, but they began as “literal descriptions,”

As the French Revolution gained steam, an angry mob had just stormed the Bastille. The National Assembly assembled to act as the revolution’s government. And the assembly had a principal goal: writing a new constitution.

One of the main issues the assembly debated was how much power the king should have, says David A. Bell, a professor of early modern France at Princeton University. Would he have the right to an absolute veto? As the debate continued, those who thought the king should have an absolute veto sat on the right of the president of the assembly, and those who thought he should not — the more radical view — sat on the left of the president of the assembly. In other words, those who wanted to hew closer to tradition were on the right, and those who wanted more change were on the left.

 

More to the point it appears those on the right wanted the king to have all the power. It also needs to be pointed out the right was composed of a small group of wealthy landowners and mercantilists while the on the left was a far larger number of ordinary people.

What it was that right wingers in those days didn't want redistributed above all else was power.  Nowadays it seems they don't want anything at all redistributed away from the rich and powerful. 

This sure doesn't seem to jibe with the right wing sense today that it's the left that wants all the money and power.

[Michael Hardner]

It's about social issues and identity more than power, at least ostensibly.

I'm going to try to call it pro worker and anti worker moving forward.

[QuebecOverCanada]

10 hours ago, eyeball said:

What it was that right wingers in those days didn't want redistributed above all else was power.  Nowadays it seems they don't want anything at all redistributed away from the rich and powerful. 

What I find funny with your take is that you think all things stay the same all throughout History. So for instance, you think that Leftists don't cling to power and want wealth redistribution, yet the most unequal States in America at least are the liberal ones.

Here is a take from the New York Times;

Also, median household income is much higher for the 'side of the poor' that are represented in your presentation of the Left which is very wrong;

'Today, the $61,000 median income of blue districts substantially exceeds the $53,000 median income of red ones, reversing the order from 2008.

The average gross domestic product for Democratic districts, near parity with Republican ones in 2008, has grown 50% higher. Output per worker has followed the same pattern.'

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/19/economic-divide-in-the-us-is-becoming-as-stark-as-its-politics.html

[QuebecOverCanada]

The killing of George Floyd last month while in the custody of Minneapolis police officers has set off a wave of protests and dialogue on racial injustice that has continued unabated for weeks. And many corporations, big and small, have joined the conversation, issuing statements vowing to stand with the Black Lives Matter movement. Some tech behemoths -- like Apple, Amazon, Microsoft and others -- have followed up on their supportive words with major donation pledges, too. Other companies have yet to put their money where their mouth is. 

Technology companies

Many of the large tech companies in the US have donated substantial sums to the cause. Google has committed $12 million, while both Facebook and Amazon are donating $10 million to various groups that fight against racial injustice. Apple is pledging a whopping $100 million for a new Racial Equity and Justice Initiative that will "challenge the systemic barriers to opportunity and dignity that exist for communities of color, and particularly for the black community," according to Apple CEO Tim Cook. Check out CNET's guide to learn more about how tech companies are supporting the Black Lives Matter movement.  

Walmart

Walmart announced that it will contribute $100 million over five years to create a new center for racial equity. In an email to Walmart employees, CEO Doug McMillan said the center "will seek to advance economic opportunity and healthier living, including issues surrounding the social determinants of health, strengthening workforce development and related educational systems, and support criminal justice reform with an emphasis on examining barriers to opportunity faced by those exiting the system."

Target

Target announced a $10 million commitment in an effort to advance social justice through supporting partners like the National Urban League and the African American Leadership Forum. The brand also committed 10,000 hours of pro-bono consulting for small business in the Twin Cities that are black-owned or owned by people of color.

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/companies-donating-black-lives-matter/

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

What I find funny with your take is that you think all things stay the same all throughout History. So for instance, you think that Leftists don't cling to power and want wealth redistribution,

As I've clearly said before around here I'm far more interested in redistributing power. By diluting it where it's concentrated.  I think this could best be achieved by outlawing in-camera lobbying - no more private exclusive meetings behind closed doors with public officials.  If there's a public interest at stake then the meeting should be public as well.  

Your take on me is wrong because it's based on your equally wrong assumption about what I think.  Your post is directed at a caricature of me that you've created.  Respond to what I said instead.

 

Edited January 18, 2022 by eyeball

[H B Lowrey]

On 1/18/2022 at 11:54 AM, QuebecOverCanada said:

What I find funny with your take is that you think all things stay the same all throughout History. So for instance, you think that Leftists don't cling to power and want wealth redistribution, yet the most unequal States in America at least are the liberal ones.

Here is a take from the New York Times;

Also, median household income is much higher for the 'side of the poor' that are represented in your presentation of the Left which is very wrong;

'Today, the $61,000 median income of blue districts substantially exceeds the $53,000 median income of red ones, reversing the order from 2008.

The average gross domestic product for Democratic districts, near parity with Republican ones in 2008, has grown 50% higher. Output per worker has followed the same pattern.'

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/19/economic-divide-in-the-us-is-becoming-as-stark-as-its-politics.html

Concentrated wealth has always viewed anything that would question their wealth redistribution scam as "redistribution", yeah, we all know that.  Don't you know CNBC is fake news?  Review The Powell Memorandum.