Does Canada harbour a lot of Communist sympathizers?

[blackbird]

Incidentally I also know it as a fact Canada has quite a number of schools in China, teaching the young how to speak English (and French) as well as other subjects.  As long as they are taught  China's basic curriculum, it is allowed. Actually China likes it because they have more people to use as agents for the CCP as time goes on.  I know of a bilingual French Canadian school teacher who actually taught a class of young people in China online from his home in Canada recently.  This is most beneficial to China.  They were very good students but remember, they are still Chinese citizens and loyal to the Chinese Communist system, which is all they know.  Canadian universities also bring over thousands of students from China to give them a university education.  If you want to investigate another aspect of the influence of China in Canada, maybe do a little research on the Confucious Institutes in Canada and Canadian universities.  It would be interesting to know more about that.  Also how many trips Canadian politicians have taken to China in recent decades and how many were paid for by the CCP through organizations.  It is worth noting our Liberal Minister of Defence, Harjit Saajan, attended a Chinese Benevolent Society dinner in Vancouver Chinatown a couple of year ago to celebrate 70 years of rule by the Chinese Communist Party in China.

Defence minister ripped for attending gala honouring Chinese Communist Party anniversary | National Post

We shouldn't be surprised the Liberal government would bring in legislation C10 and C36 to control free speech on social media and the internet.  They seem to have no problem with associating with Communist regimes or Marxist ideology.

Edited August 4, 2021 by blackbird

[Galloway]

On 8/2/2021 at 8:17 PM, blackbird said:

A CBC article described how Canadian tourists have been helping to fund the Cuban army and leaders.

How Canadian tourism sustains Cuba's army and one-party state (msn.com)

I suspect many of these people are embedded within the Liberal and NDP parties and their supporters.

quote Cuban-Canadian activists say many Canadians are not aware of the extent to which the survival of Cuba's one-party regime depends upon the foreign currency tourists bring into the country, or the lengths the Cuban government will go to keep Canadians coming.  Unquote

What is equally surprising on the MSN comment section under this article is the number of commenters who support the Cuban regime and oppose America.  Makes one wonder where these commenters came from and where their loyalties lay.

Did you even read the article?   Nothing in the article says anything about Canada harbouring "communists," you just invented that whole cloth.     Is that a pretty typical strategy of the far right on this forum?

[Galloway]

On 8/3/2021 at 8:55 AM, Michael Hardner said:

ugh... I can't believe we still have Commie-Nazis in our midst... ?

 

Neo Nazis love waving Trump  Confederate flags.   Are you suggesting nothing says "radical leftist" like Confederate and Trump flags?   ?

[Michael Hardner]

5 hours ago, Galloway said:

Neo Nazis love waving Trump  Confederate flags.   Are you suggesting nothing says "radical leftist" like Confederate and Trump flags?   ?

No, I am making fun of the idea of Commie Nazis.

 

The Confederate flag was part of popular culture until about a generation ago, so it's going to take some time to remove it. And then you're going to have people who realize that it's offensive, so they'll start using it because they like to offend people for some reason.

[Galloway]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

No, I am making fun of the idea of Commie Nazis.

I'm sorry, I misunderstood.  Indeed making fun of "Commie Nazis" is like making fun of square circles.      

 

Edited August 9, 2021 by Galloway

[blackbird]

20 hours ago, Galloway said:

Did you even read the article?   Nothing in the article says anything about Canada harbouring "communists," you just invented that whole cloth.     Is that a pretty typical strategy of the far right on this forum?

Yes, of course I read the article.   It doesn't matter if the article specifically says anything about Canada harbouring Communists or not.   The point is there are many people in Canada who are willing dupes of Communist regimes and will travel there and provide financial support to their regime through tourist dollars.  The conclusion I have long known is that there are many Marxist or Communist-minded people in Canada.  I have learned that over the years by observation of people's opinions, and many articles, and government policies, and actions.  The article on Canadians taking vacations in Cuba only proves or reinforces my opinion.

If you had been paying attention to what is going on in the world and comments from countless people in this forum and many others, you would know there are countless Communist system sympathizers in Canada and the west.  However, I understand there are many people who disagree with me and I respect their right to do that.  Just remember in a Communist country, you do not have the right to disagree with the system and little right to express your views and no human rights.  Think about that the next time you take a vacation to Cuba or China.

Edited August 10, 2021 by blackbird

[Michael Hardner]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Canada#Election_results

We have 3,905 Communists approximately.  0.02 %

In 2012, 2000 Canadians reported seeing UFOs.  

So.  

[Michael Hardner]

49 minutes ago, blackbird said:

 If you had been paying attention to what is going on in the world and comments from countless people in this forum and many others, you would know there are countless Communist system sympathizers in Canada and the west. 

I counted them.

The Commies aren't coming.
 

[blackbird]

6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I counted them.

The Commies aren't coming.
 

Even some major unions are riddled with Communist sympathizers.

Quote

Did you see Unifor’s latest attack ad?

In the ad, Unifor makes a number of unsubstantiated claims and attacks Conservative leader Erin O’Toole.  Unifor claims that the CPC leader is planning on “cutting healthcare” and “cutting public service.” Additionally, Unifor stated that O’Toole’s policies were “engineered by big corporations.”

There is very little evidence to substantiate any of these claims.

How do we know? Because we fact-checked Unifor’s attack ad. 

Why didn’t the legacy media do this?

When it comes to Justin Trudeau’s political opponents, the legacy media will bend over backwards to defend the Liberal leader. 

They fact-checked former CPC leader Andrew Scheer repeatedly and of course, they did the same to former President Donald Trump as well. 

So why didn’t they fact-check this Unifor ad that was clearly misleading Canadians about O’Toole?

This is why independent media is so vital in Canada.

The reality is you can’t rely on the legacy media to report the truth anymore. Many of these media outlets are dependent on government handouts to exist and many of these so-called journalists are actually represented by Unifor.

This is why we started an Election Coverage Fund – a budget of $75,000 specifically for coverage of the next federal election.

With your support, we can reach more Canadians with factual and honest reporting. Will you help us?

Thank you,

True North         UNQUOTE

We see the slant of unions like UNIFOR, opposed to any conservatives and oppose corporations, which is a pretty clear sign of Marxism.

Edited August 10, 2021 by blackbird

[blackbird]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I counted them.

The Commies aren't coming.
 

The UN's IPCC just announced they want the world to put a ban on all fossil fuels.  Guess these Marxist comrades and their supporters (lil Greta) want us to go back to living in caves and mud huts and eliminate all fossil fuel products.  That means no cars, trucks, ships, planes, computers, homes, highways, electric power, industry, buses, etc. etc.

[Michael Hardner]

5 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The UN's IPCC just announced they want the world to put a ban on all fossil fuels.  Guess these Marxist comrades and their supporters (lil Greta) want us to go back to living in caves and mud huts and eliminate all fossil fuel products.  That means no cars, trucks, ships, planes, computers, homes, highways, electric power, industry, buses, etc. etc.

Yes, because Marx wrote extensively on banning oil.

 

[blackbird]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Yes, because Marx wrote extensively on banning oil.

 

Marxists will use fear as a tool to make world government leaders like Trudeau dance to it's tune.  It's all about increasing control over nations by the Marxists.  Control of everyone is one the key elements of Marxism.  Read Orwell's 1984.

Edited August 10, 2021 by blackbird

[blackbird]

Quote 

Consider one of George Washington’s statements:

Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are ‘indispensable’ supports [Farewell Address, September, 1796].

In other words, Washington’s principle of government was that it is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible!

But they are trying to do just that! H. G. Wells, Winston Churchill, Jimmy Carter, Robert Kennedy, Richard Nixon, David Rockefeller, Mikhail Gorbachev, George Bush, George W. Bush, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown – and many others – have all called for a “New World Order (NWO)” or “World Government”.

The world must forge a new world order or retreat to chaos [Henry Kissinger]

All this is in line with biblical prophecy as we near the end of the present age. But what sort of world government will it be? Prophecy says that, rather than relying upon ‘God and the Bible’, these rulers will be taking a stand against the Lord and against Jesus Christ (Psalm 2:2).

Unquote

World Government (NWO) in Bible Prophecy | The coming World Dictator (seekingtruth.co.uk)

There are a number of possible players in the present age who are working toward one world government.  The number one player is probably the U.N. and it's climate change committee, the IPCC.  They are using fear and climate alarmism to bring fear to nations to make them submit to their agenda.  It works well with leaders like Trudeau who seem to be willing to do whatever the U.N. says.

Edited August 10, 2021 by blackbird

[Michael Hardner]

8 hours ago, blackbird said:

Marxists will use fear as a tool to make world government leaders like Trudeau dance to it's tune.  It's all about increasing control over nations by the Marxists.  Control of everyone is one the key elements of Marxism.  Read Orwell's 1984.

I read it long before 1984.

It's not about Marxism.

It's not just totalitarians that use fear to get their way.

[Michael Hardner]

8 hours ago, blackbird said:

 H. G. Wells, Winston Churchill, Jimmy Carter, Robert Kennedy, Richard Nixon, David Rockefeller, Mikhail Gorbachev, George Bush, George W. Bush, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown – and many others – have all called for a “New World Order (NWO)” or “World Government”

Read Kissinger's Diplomacy.  Western Alliances are a great way for the west to protect capitalism, peace and prosperity.

[Yzermandius19]

16 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Canada#Election_results

We have 3,905 Communists approximately.  0.02 %

In 2012, 2000 Canadians reported seeing UFOs.  

So.  

lots of commies don't vote for the Communist party

[Yzermandius19]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I read it long before 1984.

It's not about Marxism.

It's not just totalitarians that use fear to get their way.

yes it is about Marxism

George Orwell fought in the Spanish Civil War

he saw the Communists up close, first hand, and wanted to warn people about going down that path

he hated communism with a passion and his dystopian novels clearly reflect that attitude 

he was referencing Communist methods of totalitarian control in 1984

just because totalitarians all over the spectrum sometimes also use similar methods,  doesn't mean Orwell didn't have communism in mind specifically, when writing 1984 and Animal Farm

your knee jerk impulse to defend the left leads you astray again

Orwell was wise enough to see the threat of the illiberal left was greater than the threat from the illiberal right

and he emphasized the former more than later in his writings as a result, despite being on the left himself, he wasn't a partisan hack who had to pretend the radical right was worse and tunnel vision on them, he had too much experience with both to be under that delusion

Edited August 10, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Nefarious Banana]

"your knee jerk impulse to defend the left leads you astray again . . . . "

Yzermandius 19 . . . . ^ ^ your prose has once again put a smile on my face!  ?

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

1. yes it is about Marxism

2. George Orwell fought in the Spanish Civil War, he saw the Communists up close, first hand, and wanted to warn people about going down that path, he hated communism with a passion and his dystopian novels clearly reflect that attitude 

3. your knee jerk impulse to defend the left leads you astray again

4. Orwell was wise enough to see the threat of the illiberal left was greater than the threat from the illiberal right

 

1. No it's about totalitarianism.
2. He was a democratic socialist who saw how it all went bad with the Soviet Union
3. Don't go after me personally because you insist on using Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, and Communism interchangeably.  That's on you.
4. I should acknowledge that you are right at the base: it was NOT about totalitarian right.
 

[Yzermandius19]

8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. No it's about totalitarianism.
2. He was a democratic socialist who saw how it all went bad with the Soviet Union

this is just semantical nonsense

in one sentence you deny it's about communism

in the other you admit it's about communism

no one said it's only about communism and no other forms of totalitarianism

so just knock it off with your ridiculous pretzel logic to defend the left already

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

this is just semantical nonsense

in one sentence you deny it's about communism

in the other you admit it's about communism

no one said it's only about communism and no other forms of totalitarianism

so just knock it off with your ridiculous pretzel logic to defend the left already

It's not Marxism, it's about totalitarianism.

[Yzermandius19]

6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's not Marxism, it's about totalitarianism.

Communism is totalitarian

Orwell knows

the brand of totalitarianism in 1984 and Animal Farm, most closely resembles communism as opposed to another totalitarian ideology as a result

it's not a coincidence, Orwell did that on purpose

Edited August 11, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Michael Hardner]

7 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Communism is totalitarian

Orwell knows

the brand of totalitarianism in 1984 and Animal Farm, most closely resembles communism as opposed to another totalitarian ideology as a result

it's not a coincidence, Orwell did that on purpose

I agree, but you're conveniently ignoring that Orwell remained a democratic socialist.

There's nothing in 1984 about any collectivist theories, social commentary on classes other than reflecting what was and is in Britain.

But, as you say it derives from the control techniques that had developed in the Soviet Union, which surpassed anything before.

[Yzermandius19]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I agree, but you're conveniently ignoring that Orwell remained a democratic socialist.

There's nothing in 1984 about any collectivist theories, social commentary on classes other than reflecting what was and is in Britain.

But, as you say it derives from the control techniques that had developed in the Soviet Union, which surpassed anything before.

I am not conveniently ignoring anything

I, in fact, pointed out Orwell's political leanings before you did

that does not change the fact that both 1984 and Animal Farm were written with the dystopic results of communism at the front of Orwell's mind, more so than any other form of totalitarianism

so this "not about Marxism" schtick, is just silly semantics that you are now backpedalling on

Orwell was an ardent anti-communist and his most famous works reflect that as clear as day

Edited August 11, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Michael Hardner]

45 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

 

so this "not about Marxism" schtick, is just silly semantics that you are now backpedalling on

No, not back pedaling. I'll maintain that the book has nothing to do with Marxism. My concession to the gist of your point was an attempt to close out the conversation on whatever common ground we have.