Boges Posted July 27, 2020 Author Report Posted July 27, 2020 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: The new cases in Canada are not from baseball...must be something else ! Similar to the US. Young people not giving a crap. But just on a much lower scale. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Boges said: Similar to the US. Young people not giving a crap. But just on a much lower scale. So called experts and officials can't have it both ways....opening up in any capacity means more cases and community spread. Hockey playoffs outbreak will be next.... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted July 27, 2020 Author Report Posted July 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Hockey playoffs outbreak will be next.... Like with the NBA, they're in a bubble. That seems to be the only workable sports model. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Boges said: Like with the NBA, they're in a bubble. That seems to be the only workable sports model. Bubble...schmubble....some players are infected already and don't even know it. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted July 27, 2020 Author Report Posted July 27, 2020 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Bubble...schmubble....some players are infected already and don't even know it. They're regularly tested. Seems the problem with baseball is that players are getting positive results after they've already played a game. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Boges said: They're regularly tested. Seems the problem with baseball is that players are getting positive results after they've already played a game. Testing still has false positives and false negatives. The "bubble" is also part political theatre just to get governments to play ball...pun intended. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Cannucklehead Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) http://www.usatoday.com/amp/5517567002 Who could have seen that coming? Quote Commissioner Rob Manfred must decide whether to delay the 2020 season, postpone it until further notice or simply hope the Miami Marlins’ outbreak is an isolated case. For now, Major League Baseball postponed two games scheduled for Monday night, the Marlins' home game against the Baltimore Orioles, and New York Yankees' game in Philadelphia vs. the Phillies. The Marlins have at least 14 players and staff members who have tested positive for COVID-19, and the team cancelled their flight home from Philadelphia after playing three games there this weekend. https://www.si.com/.amp/mlb/2020/07/27/miami-marlins-covid-nfl-return Edited July 27, 2020 by Cannucklehead Quote
Boges Posted July 27, 2020 Author Report Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) It's hilarious that the State of Pennsylvania wouldn't allow the Jays to play in Pittsburgh yet across the state the Miami Marlins visit Philly and potentially infect multiple players on that team. AND the infected Marlins are now Quarantining in Philly. Maryland also was cool about letting the Blue Jays play in Baltimore. Now the Orioles can't play their next game because they were scheduled to visit said Marlins. But the Jays were the problem. Edited July 27, 2020 by Boges Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Boges said: ...But the Jays were the problem. Yes indeed.... Quote Today, it is the baseball season, the chaos, the crisis, we chose. Those big rosters weren’t sitting there for no reason. Those stadiums weren’t empty for nothing. The spit tests, the masks, the hundred-and-something-page manual, the opt-outs, the Toronto Blue Jays as vagabonds, those were all real. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/the-marlins-covid-19-outbreak-is-really-bad-and-exactly-what-mlb-signed-up-for-160751017.html Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Cannucklehead Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Yes indeed.... How does that make the Jay's the problem? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Cannucklehead said: How does that make the Jay's the problem? It makes the Jay's part of the problem....forcing the baseball season to open during a pandemic. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Cannucklehead Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: It makes the Jay's part of the problem....forcing the baseball season to open during a pandemic. That decision came from mlb and the players association. The "problem" is that no one forced anyone to do anything. They had an election to reopen or not and it was decided. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said: That decision came from mlb and the players association. The "problem" is that no one forced anyone to do anything. They had an election to reopen or not and it was decided. OK...can everybody else just "vote" on what to do as well ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Cannucklehead Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: OK...can everybody else just "vote" on what to do as well ? Everybody else? Please expound. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 22 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said: Everybody else? Please expound. All businesses...government offices....schools...clubs...bars...restaurants...everybody. Let them all vote on what they want to do regardless of what others want to do. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Cannucklehead Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: All businesses...government offices....schools...clubs...bars...restaurants...everybody. Let them all vote on what they want to do regardless of what others want to do. https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5551585 That's what we do. No one has a gun to anyone's head. At least not in my country anyway Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said: https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5551585 That's what we do. No one has a gun to anyone's head. At least not in my country anyway What's so special about major league sports ? And that includes Canada. Why do they get a pass ? Edited July 27, 2020 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Cannucklehead Posted July 28, 2020 Report Posted July 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: What's so special about major league sports ? And that includes Canada. Why do they get a pass ? Nothing. The Jay's reopening proposal was rejected by the feds. “Unlike preseason training, regular-season games would require repeated cross-border travel of Blue Jays players and staff, as well as opponent teams into and out of Canada,” Immigration Minister Marco Mendicino said, via ESPN.com. “Of particular concern, the Toronto Blue Jays would be required to play in locations where the risk of virus transmission remains high. The state of ohio had more than double the amount of new cases of covid yesterday than all of Canada combined. Quote
Boges Posted July 28, 2020 Author Report Posted July 28, 2020 12 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: What's so special about major league sports ? And that includes Canada. Why do they get a pass ? They don't. They're playing in front of empty stadiums and arenas. The owners are just trying to salvage some of the money they've lost. You're projecting your dislike for sports on this pandemic. Having baseball back is actually quite reassuring. It's something we lost when this pandemic started and even if it's only an imperfect facsimile, it's a good distraction. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 28, 2020 Report Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Boges said: You're projecting your dislike for sports on this pandemic. Having baseball back is actually quite reassuring. It's something we lost when this pandemic started and even if it's only an imperfect facsimile, it's a good distraction. No, I am projecting the obvious inconsistencies and standards, same as with church attendance vs. protests as curtailed by government. As for sports, I have enjoyed them more years than you, with more domestic experience for "facsimile", fake ass replacements. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted July 28, 2020 Author Report Posted July 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: No, I am projecting the obvious inconsistencies and standards, same as with church attendance vs. protests as curtailed by government. As for sports, I have enjoyed them more years than you, with more domestic experience for "facsimile", fake ass replacements. Protests are organic things that apparently are protected by your first amendment. Churches are large indoor gatherings. Sports are being played in front of no fans. So the crowd thing isn't as much of an issue. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 28, 2020 Report Posted July 28, 2020 Just now, Boges said: Protests are organic things that apparently are protected by your first amendment. Churches are large indoor gatherings. Churches and religion are also protected assembly and speech. Sports are not. Quote Sports are being played in front of no fans. So the crowd thing isn't as much of an issue. Teams with many members are still congregating and spreading the virus. They are not wearing masks and "social distancing". ...just so you can watch fake sports on TV while paying the same price as before. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted July 28, 2020 Author Report Posted July 28, 2020 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Churches and religion are also protected assembly and speech. Sports are not. You can participate in Church Online. Just like we're watching sport on TV. Quote Teams with many members are still congregating and spreading the virus. They are not wearing masks and "social distancing". ...just so you can watch fake sports on TV while paying the same price as before. Capitalism FTW! Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 28, 2020 Report Posted July 28, 2020 Just now, Boges said: You can participate in Church Online. Just like we're watching sport on TV. How do Catholics receive communion "online" ? How would many other religions practice physical rituals and customs ? Sports on TV is your religion ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted July 28, 2020 Author Report Posted July 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: How do Catholics receive communion "online" ? How would many other religions practice physical rituals and customs ? Is that your only example. Even the pope participates in social distancing. Quote Sports on TV is your religion ? No, but it's excellent entertainment. Quote
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