French Patriot Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 If we do not turn our love of self to our hate of self, we are bound for our near extinction. Science has shown that the good in us, our love side, is dominating us via our selfish gene. Science is also showing us that we are in a major extinction event that may well include a vast number of people. I doubt that our full extinction will come to pass, but we will be reduced to such small numbers that we will likely revert to a less sophisticated system and city states. If we do not turn our swords into plows, and devastate the worlds populations with war, our environment will do the deed and near extinct us. We love our governments and gods. That is why we have let them bring us to the brink of extinction. We follow them so closely that we all have our heads stuck into the ground. I think, given the incompetence of all governments and gods; we should let our great love for what leads us and turn it to hate, as we should, to insure the survival of people right here and right now. Start to hate the systems that got us all to this pitiful place in time. We presently elect our incompetent governments and gods for a variety of reasons. We are all tribal and belong to a religious tribe or a government tribe. We all follow their ideologies, theologies or philosophies. We are all the same in this. Surely, given that we are basically all humans, who wish to love more than hate, can hate those things that are putting us all in peril long enough to do something about our head long leap to near extinction. The environment is under political control and they are killing our bodies. Our bodies harbor our souls to the physical world where our children live. I think it is time for a god to take over. I don’t care if it is a pedophile protecting Pope or a united Christianity, or newly elected Khalif of a newly united Islam, but a god must step up, as our political side has failed humankind completely. Our politicians are not uniting the world and should be made to step down so that some form of religious system, chosen by the masses, so that we can try uniting under a newly elected god. Jesus prophesied that that would become a necessity, and so did Socrates before him. Both were right in thinking that such a system would be the best possible end for political theories. I urge the vast majority of the world, the religious, to have a final battle in the ongoing god wars, which involves our political gods as well. Let their hate out by debate and elect a new god of peace so that our current incompetent batch of leaders might find the best one. My love of the religious has let loose my hate against our incompetent political leadership and I think we all should, elect a new god and save us from our own near extinction. We have the means; do we have the will? Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 Hate of self isn't necessarily wrong, if it leads to transformation to a better person. But anything taken to extremes is harmful, so we should not hate ourselves too much. Remember that we are all struggling in life and are bound to make mistakes. That is where the concept of forgiveness comes in, and should also include forgiveness of the self. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Patriot Posted April 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 On 4/4/2020 at 8:56 AM, OftenWrong said: Hate of self isn't necessarily wrong, if it leads to transformation to a better person. But anything taken to extremes is harmful, so we should not hate ourselves too much. Remember that we are all struggling in life and are bound to make mistakes. That is where the concept of forgiveness comes in, and should also include forgiveness of the self. I hear you, but repentance comes before forgiveness. Repentance also includes restitution to the offended and we have yet to feel guilty enough to even acknowledge the harm we are doing. We have yet to repent ands should hate ourselves for not doing so and act to reform before forgiving ourselves. Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) If we do not turn our love of self to our hate of self, we are bound for our near extinction. Hate of self? Aren't you going overboard over this? Anyway..... Quote I doubt that our full extinction will come to pass, but we will be reduced to such small numbers that we will likely revert to a less sophisticated system and city states. What's wrong with that? I pine for the less sophisticated system! Even if it's just the old-fashion landline phone! Why do you seem so worried? Because........................... you'd lose all the good things you enjoyed in our SELF-LOVING DAYS? Edited April 16, 2020 by betsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 On 4/3/2020 at 5:32 PM, French Patriot said: If we do not turn our love of self to our hate of self, we are bound for our near extinction. Science has shown that the good in us, our love side, is dominating us via our selfish gene. Science is also showing us that we are in a major extinction event that may well include a vast number of people. I doubt that our full extinction will come to pass, but we will be reduced to such small numbers that we will likely revert to a less sophisticated system and city states. If we do not turn our swords into plows, and devastate the worlds populations with war, our environment will do the deed and near extinct us. We love our governments and gods. That is why we have let them bring us to the brink of extinction. We follow them so closely that we all have our heads stuck into the ground. I think, given the incompetence of all governments and gods; we should let our great love for what leads us and turn it to hate, as we should, to insure the survival of people right here and right now. Start to hate the systems that got us all to this pitiful place in time. We presently elect our incompetent governments and gods for a variety of reasons. We are all tribal and belong to a religious tribe or a government tribe. We all follow their ideologies, theologies or philosophies. We are all the same in this. Surely, given that we are basically all humans, who wish to love more than hate, can hate those things that are putting us all in peril long enough to do something about our head long leap to near extinction. The environment is under political control and they are killing our bodies. Our bodies harbor our souls to the physical world where our children live. I think it is time for a god to take over. I don’t care if it is a pedophile protecting Pope or a united Christianity, or newly elected Khalif of a newly united Islam, but a god must step up, as our political side has failed humankind completely. Our politicians are not uniting the world and should be made to step down so that some form of religious system, chosen by the masses, so that we can try uniting under a newly elected god. Jesus prophesied that that would become a necessity, and so did Socrates before him. Both were right in thinking that such a system would be the best possible end for political theories. I urge the vast majority of the world, the religious, to have a final battle in the ongoing god wars, which involves our political gods as well. Let their hate out by debate and elect a new god of peace so that our current incompetent batch of leaders might find the best one. My love of the religious has let loose my hate against our incompetent political leadership and I think we all should, elect a new god and save us from our own near extinction. We have the means; do we have the will? Regards DL I suppose you're in a rant mode, eh? Well, if it might help to calm you down, you should have faith in Jesus. He'll come back and when he does, He'll bring about a new world system. Revelation 21 A New Heaven and a New Earth 21 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,”for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” 5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) Therefore, if we want to be a part of that new world..........instead of attacking God, and heaping all sorts of blasphemous comment on Him.....and spreading false teachings that lead others astray.....we should humble ourselves before Him. Otherwise, we are in danger of falling into the latter category: 6 He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7 Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children. 8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” Edited April 16, 2020 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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