Is climate change, a major concern for Canadians ....

[Guest PPC2019]

7 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

If people want to spread out, fine, if they want to go to Toronto, I have no problem with that either. Government doesn't need to step in on this one.

Ya but the children don't get to decide where the parents force them to live... I don't care if you call them million dollar row houses. Why should they have to live in concrete Ghettos?

Let the Children go boating or build tree forts in the forest.... instead of dehumanizing them with copy and paste housing, and endless sidewalks that lead them nowhere.

I talked to a Doctor in North Bay.... who moved out of the GTA.... He was telling me about the massive amounts of depression he saw... from kids who were put in their house all day to play videos games.

He finally saw his Children getting sad, and decided to move to a lake near North Bay... He said his children are so happy to be alive... They love the outdoors, the love the change to go boating.

Having your kids stay in the house all day, because they have no place to go outside... is child abuse.... and you wonder why many kids are taking drugs these days?

Edited November 11, 2019 by PPC2019

[Guest PPC2019]

4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Fossil Fuels are not the problem, they are main reason the US it cutting it's carbon emissions, instead of increasing them. If you really want to lower carbon emission you need to drop the knee jerk fossil fuel hatred, and focus on the free market.

It's impossible for man made climate change to exist without overpopulation.... and that's what the university social justice warriors don't understand.

Because it's "An Inconvenient Truth" for the globalists, who are dependent on mass immigration, to run their Ponzi Scheme.

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, PPC2019 said:

Ya but the children don't get to decide where the parents force them to live... I don't care if you call them million dollar row houses. Why should they have to live in concrete Ghettos?

Let the Children go boating or build tree forts in the forest.... instead of dehumanizing them with copy and paste housing, and endless sidewalks that lead them nowhere.

I talked to a Doctor in North Bay.... who moved out of the GTA.... He was telling me about the massive amounts of depression he saw... from kids who were put in their house all day to play videos games.

He finally saw his Children getting sad, and decided to move to a lake near North Bay... He said his children are so happy to be alive... They love the outdoors, the love the change to go boating.

Having your kids stay in the house all day, because they have no place to go outside... is child abuse.... and you wonder why many kids are taking drugs these days?

The parents can move where they want to move. Just because you'd rather they move somewhere else gives you no right to force them to do so. You can move where you want, and they can move where they want, knock off the authoritarian nonsense.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, jacee said:

No problem. Human ingenuity is an amazing thing. 

Renewable energy is more profitable than oil in the instant that we remove about 30% of the subsidies that are the only thing still keeping the oil industry afloat. 

All of the challenges you mention will be quickly addressed, because human beings are incredibly inventive, already ahead of the game.

1) Vehicle retrofitters are already doing good business in some countries: 

https://singularityhub.com/2019/08/05/the-newest-way-to-go-green-retrofit-your-old-car-to-make-it-electric/

2) The billions in federal subsidy money currently propping up the otherwise unprofitable fossil fuel industries can be re-allocated to support all of the retrofits, etc. that will be necessary to switch to electric, including vehicles and home heating.   

3) Current provincial subsidy money can be used to support Alberta and Saskatchewan oil workers through the transition to new industries. 

No one person - like you or me - has to figure out all the details. We all just have to free the market to work as it should, and let human ingenuity and free enterprise fill in the necessities. 

Human ingenuity is certainly amazing.  But not overly predictable.  After all, we have a huge single use plastic problem, so we came up with the Keurig.  The free market you espouse can backfire.

But that aside, I still think you are talking hope and pray, not reality.  I'll believe we are going to renewables when the car companies stop producing vehicles with internal combustion engines.  They won't make them if they don't think they can sell them.

[Yzermandius19]

4 minutes ago, PPC2019 said:

It's impossible for man made climate change to exist without overpopulation.... and that's what the university social justice warriors don't understand.

Because it's "An Inconvenient Truth" for the globalists, who are dependent on mass immigration, to run their Ponzi Scheme.

Overpopulation doesn't exist. Before "overpopulation" humans were using fuels that put more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere by burning wood. Fossil fuels cut carbon emissions and allowed the carrying capacity of the earth to be increased many times over. A little man made climate change is not worth population control measures, the climate is always changing, the human impact on it is not so great that people need to panic and resort to eugenics.

Edited November 11, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Guest PPC2019]

17 minutes ago, jacee said:

Hey, taxme and PPC ... the thread is about climate change. 

Overpopulation is not the problem.

Fossil fuels are the problem.

But don't fret, we've already solved it: We remove public subsidies from the fossil fuel industries, because they're not profitable without it. Investors flock to green industries, renewable energy.

Done.

You can start another thread about overpopulation. 

Here you go... You have two ultra conservatives... offering the best solution to save the planet.... and you're a complete hypocrite saying it's not the problem...

Man made Climate Change could of never happened if we didn't allow population growth.

You may be here for fun and games, but some of us are passionate about our beliefs.

If you're an environmentalist, and you want rapid population growth to continue.... You're a complete hypocrite.

Just like #TwoPlaneJustin

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, PPC2019 said:

Here you go... You have two ultra conservatives... offering the best solution to save the planet.... and you're a complete hypocrite saying it's not the problem...

Man made Climate Change could of never happened if we didn't allow population growth.

You may be here for fun and games, but some of us are passionate about our beliefs.

If you're an environmentalist, and you want rapid population growth to continue.... You're a complete hypocrite.

Just like #TwoPlaneJustin

Climate change is not a big enough concern to warrant idiotic population control measures. Hiding behind being a conservative doesn't make your ideas any less stupid.

[Guest PPC2019]

8 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Climate change is not a big enough concern to warrant idiotic population control measures. Hiding behind being a conservative doesn't make your ideas any less stupid.

Is not just Climate Change. 

It's deforestation

radioactive waste

food security

water security

access to resources

industrialization

poverty

air pollution

water pollution

cancer rates reaching 50% due to toxicity

over fishing

overgrazing

deforestation

desertification

habit loss

ecosystem collapse

 

And all every single environmental problem that has exist, or will continue to exist,,, can be mitigate with moral and gradual depopulation

 

I'm not hiding behind a conservative. I became a conservatism, because I don't believe in inefficient socialism promoting laziness and massive amounts of debt.

I believe in Financing Sustainability, and not just environmental... It's ok to be a conservative-environmentalist... I am one.

Edited November 11, 2019 by PPC2019

[taxme]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Canada's birth rate is below replacement, you want less immigrants, have more kids.

Give Canadians more incentive to want to have more kids. Instead of wanting to bring in over four hundred thousand new immigrants, including tens of thousands of legal and illegal so called refugees every year, to feed, clothe and house. Why not save hundreds of billions of our tax dollars being blown on all of those new immigrants, and give the incentive to more Canadian families to be able to use those now free tax dollars for them to have more children? But we seem to have politicians who believe that Canada needs hundreds of thousands of new immigrants to keep Canada up and running. When Canada had about twenty million people living in Canada decades ago, Canada was doing okay.

The whole idea of globalists like Trudeau and his Somali immigration minister are trying to do is to want to flood Canada with a million more new third world immigrants in the next three years. One million more new immigrants in the next three years is something Canada does not really need nor I think can handle. Think about all the more services that will be required, and the more damage that will be done to our infrastructure, and the environment? If one is for more immigration, than that one is out of their freakin' heads. But then again, Canada is so full of people who appear to be out of their freakin' heads already. Common sense and logic is being thrown out the door, and being replaced by emotionalism and crazy Marxist liberal silly and foolish talk. 

Canada does not need more new immigrants, Canada needs less. And I will predict that the more new immigrants that Canada takes in from the 3rd world, I am pretty sure that racism will surely be on the rise. When a country tries to replace it's Western culture with dozens of new cultures, that surely is a recipe for more racism and disaster. The Canadian news seems to be reporting every week now about some racist thing being said or done in Canada today. The animosity is building, but nobody seems to be listening nor seems to care. Just keep bringing them on in. Another million more new immigrants in the next three years is not going to work well for Canada or Canadians. 

[Guest PPC2019]

6 minutes ago, taxme said:

Give Canadians more incentive to want to have more kids. Instead of wanting to bring in over four hundred thousand new immigrants, including tens of thousands of legal and illegal so called refugees every year, to feed, clothe and house. Why not save hundreds of billions of our tax dollars being blown on all of those new immigrants, and give the incentive to more Canadian families to be able to use those now free tax dollars for them to have more children? But we seem to have politicians who believe that Canada needs hundreds of thousands of new immigrants to keep Canada up and running. When Canada had about twenty million people living in Canada decades ago, Canada was doing okay.

The whole idea of globalists like Trudeau and his Somali immigration minister are trying to do is to want to flood Canada with a million more new third world immigrants in the next three years. One million more new immigrants in the next three years is something Canada does not really need nor I think can handle. Think about all the more services that will be required, and the more damage that will be done to our infrastructure, and the environment? If one is for more immigration, than that one is out of their freakin' heads. But then again, Canada is so full of people who appear to be out of their freakin' heads already. Common sense and logic is being thrown out the door, and being replaced by emotionalism and crazy Marxist liberal silly and foolish talk. 

Canada does not need more new immigrants, Canada needs less. And I will predict that the more new immigrants that Canada takes in from the 3rd world, I am pretty sure that racism will surely be on the rise. When a country tries to replace it's Western culture with dozens of new cultures, that surely is a recipe for more racism and disaster. The Canadian news seems to be reporting every week now about some racist thing being said or done in Canada today. The animosity is building, but nobody seems to be listening nor seems to care. Just keep bringing them on in. Another million more new immigrants in the next three years is not going to work well for Canada or Canadians. 

We basically have cultural genocide. Parents send all their white kids to Trent university, to become eco hippies instead preparing them to become parents. When's the last time you heard a university professor give a speech about parenting?

We have all heard about sex ed... but that tells you to put the condom on. Whens the last time you heard about a high school, teaching students about what it;s like to be married or to have a relationship?

No wonder these people are terrified to have children.

 

Edited November 11, 2019 by PPC2019

[taxme]

13 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Overpopulation doesn't exist. Before "overpopulation" humans were using fuels that put more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere by burning wood. Fossil fuels cut carbon emissions and allowed the carrying capacity of the earth to be increased many times over. A little man made climate change is not worth population control measures, the climate is always changing, the human impact on it is not so great that people need to panic and resort to eugenics.

You say that overpopulation does not exist" The world population is expected to increase to 8 billion by 2023. There is now 7.7 billion people living on the planet today. And all that population growth will be happening in the 3rd world. And guess where most of them will be going in the next few years if the United Nations global climate refugee program gets it's way? Can you say----- Canada? Our dear globalist leaders want to bring in another 1 million new immigrants from the 3rd world in the next three years. If the globalists like Trudeau and his Somali immigration minister gets their way, they would like to take in millions more from the overpopulated 3rd world. Canada and Canadians will be the big losers here if this present day Canadian immigration policy is allowed to continue on. There was one wacko Canadian scientist that thinks that Canada should have a population of 100 million by the end of the century. Wtf? 

Canada needs a moratorium on immigration now. The traffic gridlock is getting worse out there. Do we really need more vehicles on the road? Apparently, many here seem to think so. It certainly looks like most Canadians are losing their minds. What more can be said. 

[Guest PPC2019]

12 minutes ago, taxme said:

Give Canadians more incentive to want to have more kids. Instead of wanting to bring in over four hundred thousand new immigrants, including tens of thousands of legal and illegal so called refugees every year, to feed, clothe and house. Why not save hundreds of billions of our tax dollars being blown on all of those new immigrants, and give the incentive to more Canadian families to be able to use those now free tax dollars for them to have more children? But we seem to have politicians who believe that Canada needs hundreds of thousands of new immigrants to keep Canada up and running. When Canada had about twenty million people living in Canada decades ago, Canada was doing okay.

The whole idea of globalists like Trudeau and his Somali immigration minister are trying to do is to want to flood Canada with a million more new third world immigrants in the next three years. One million more new immigrants in the next three years is something Canada does not really need nor I think can handle. Think about all the more services that will be required, and the more damage that will be done to our infrastructure, and the environment? If one is for more immigration, than that one is out of their freakin' heads. But then again, Canada is so full of people who appear to be out of their freakin' heads already. Common sense and logic is being thrown out the door, and being replaced by emotionalism and crazy Marxist liberal silly and foolish talk. 

Canada does not need more new immigrants, Canada needs less. And I will predict that the more new immigrants that Canada takes in from the 3rd world, I am pretty sure that racism will surely be on the rise. When a country tries to replace it's Western culture with dozens of new cultures, that surely is a recipe for more racism and disaster. The Canadian news seems to be reporting every week now about some racist thing being said or done in Canada today. The animosity is building, but nobody seems to be listening nor seems to care. Just keep bringing them on in. Another million more new immigrants in the next three years is not going to work well for Canada or Canadians. 

I've had to talk down racists in my city. Oh "How can you put up with all those Chinese people?" It's MarKong"

I even have Muslims from Brampton telling me how much the hate Chinese people, and make fun of their accents.

Yes, I like having more of my kind around, but sick and tired of my friends mocking other peoples accents and stuff. 

I'll open up, and be honest about my feelings. I talk about reducing immigration, where they go for the cheap shots... and say Paki's smell, or Paki's are ugly.

[Yzermandius19]

21 minutes ago, taxme said:

Give Canadians more incentive to want to have more kids. Instead of wanting to bring in over four hundred thousand new immigrants, including tens of thousands of legal and illegal so called refugees every year, to feed, clothe and house. Why not save hundreds of billions of our tax dollars being blown on all of those new immigrants, and give the incentive to more Canadian families to be able to use those now free tax dollars for them to have more children? But we seem to have politicians who believe that Canada needs hundreds of thousands of new immigrants to keep Canada up and running. When Canada had about twenty million people living in Canada decades ago, Canada was doing okay.

The whole idea of globalists like Trudeau and his Somali immigration minister are trying to do is to want to flood Canada with a million more new third world immigrants in the next three years. One million more new immigrants in the next three years is something Canada does not really need nor I think can handle. Think about all the more services that will be required, and the more damage that will be done to our infrastructure, and the environment? If one is for more immigration, than that one is out of their freakin' heads. But then again, Canada is so full of people who appear to be out of their freakin' heads already. Common sense and logic is being thrown out the door, and being replaced by emotionalism and crazy Marxist liberal silly and foolish talk. 

Canada does not need more new immigrants, Canada needs less. And I will predict that the more new immigrants that Canada takes in from the 3rd world, I am pretty sure that racism will surely be on the rise. When a country tries to replace it's Western culture with dozens of new cultures, that surely is a recipe for more racism and disaster. The Canadian news seems to be reporting every week now about some racist thing being said or done in Canada today. The animosity is building, but nobody seems to be listening nor seems to care. Just keep bringing them on in. Another million more new immigrants in the next three years is not going to work well for Canada or Canadians. 

The immigrants have more kids, and they don't need incentivizes to have them. If Canadian whites need to be bribed into having kids, and the non-white immigrants don't, then it will save Canadians a lot of money to bring in more immigrants than bribe the White Canadians into having kids, and it will mean less government interference in our lives too.

Sorry but your preference for the National Helicopter Mommy over bringing in more immigrants makes you a bigger problem to Canada than the immigrants you scapegoat for all of Canada's problems. The problem is National Helicopter Mommy, not the immigrants, stop making a deal with the devil to address an issue that is far less important by empowering the devil. You are not helping.

Edited November 11, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[taxme]

12 minutes ago, PPC2019 said:

We basically have cultural genocide. Parents send all their white kids to Trent university, to become eco hippies instead preparing them to become parents. When's the last time you heard a university professor give a speech about parenting?

We have all heard about sex ed... but that tells you to put the condom on. Whens the last time you heard about a high school, teaching students about what it;s like to be married or to have a relationship?

No wonder these people are terrified to have children.

 

It's starting to look like the youth of Canada are starting to lose their minds.All of this mind loss will be due to globalist Marxist liberalism that tells them that white nationalist conservatives are very bad people who hate everyone but themselves. The obvious people who do hate people are the ones that are trying to push Marxism down their gullible youths throats. Common sense and logic is not taught in schools anymore. Just more of politically correct globalist Marxist bull chit. And as we can see today, we are all starting to pay big time for this Marxist SJW brainwashing. I would love to spend a week in some school or university class room to see what is being taught in those classrooms. It's getting pretty sad out there. 

[Guest PPC2019]

3 minutes ago, taxme said:

You say that overpopulation does not exist" The world population is expected to increase to 8 billion by 2023. There is now 7.7 billion people living on the planet today. And all that population growth will be happening in the 3rd world. And guess where most of them will be going in the next few years if the United Nations global climate refugee program gets it's way? Can you say----- Canada? Our dear globalist leaders want to bring in another 1 million new immigrants from the 3rd world in the next three years. If the globalists like Trudeau and his Somali immigration minister gets their way, they would like to take in millions more from the overpopulated 3rd world. Canada and Canadians will be the big losers here if this present day Canadian immigration policy is allowed to continue on. There was one wacko Canadian scientist that thinks that Canada should have a population of 100 million by the end of the century. Wtf? 

Canada needs a moratorium on immigration now. The traffic gridlock is getting worse out there. Do we really need more vehicles on the road? Apparently, many here seem to think so. It certainly looks like most Canadians are losing their minds. What more can be said. 

Who's to say they won't stop at 100 million? What if they want to wait until there is enough brown people, and increase immigration in by inch... Maybe in 5 years will be at 600 000. And 10 years 750 000.

The globalist will laugh all the way to bank, as they displace a tone of poor Canadians, to get super rich off the real-estate speculation.

That kind of greed happened in the United State... It was call the sub-prime mortgage collapse.

Maybe the globalist want entire cities that are 100 million, just like the Terminator... they won't stop EVER, until we're dead. Terminator was a great movie... about the Fate of mankind if we make stupid decisions.

 

[taxme]

26 minutes ago, PPC2019 said:

Is not just Climate Change. 

It's deforestation

radioactive waste

food security

water security

access to resources

industrialization

poverty

air pollution

water pollution

cancer rates reaching 50% due to toxicity

over fishing

overgrazing

deforestation

desertfacation

habit loss

ecosystem collapse

 

And all every single environmental problem that has exist, or will continue to exist,,, can be mitigate with moral and gradual depopulation

 

I'm not hiding behind a conservative. I became a conservatism, because I don't believe in inefficient socialism promoting laziness and massive amounts of debt.

I believe in Financing Sustainability, and not just environmental... It's ok to be a conservative-environmentalist... I am one.

I have to go out now, and I do not look forward to the traffic gridlock that I have to face now, thanks to all of this massive immigration that has been going on in Canada. I will be back to talk to you later, hopefully, within three days. 

[Guest PPC2019]

5 minutes ago, taxme said:

I have to go out now, and I do not look forward to the traffic gridlock that I have to face now, thanks to all of this massive immigration that has been going on in Canada. I will be back to talk to you later, hopefully, within three days. 

Enjoy... your time... you just gave me a great idea.... To promote the PPC run again.

Maybe someone could stand on the sidewalk during the mornings Rushhour, with a Banner over their head that reads "If ya hate Traffic, than lets ban Mass immigration." Lets see how many patriots come out of the closet and start honking their horns for ya.

Lets go to the most terrible traffic jams, and have an army of protesters wake people up. I'm sure that would get on the CBC news.

Let's be some puppet masters and have some fun.

Edited November 11, 2019 by PPC2019

[jacee]

4 hours ago, bcsapper said:

So they say, but we don't feed them.  We raze arable land so we can put more palm oil in junk food and shampoo.  We turn over millions of acres of land where we could grow nutritious grains for people, in order to feed cows, when most of the world won't ever be able to afford a decent steak.  We send fresh water 2k downhole to force that last bit of oil up the well when half the world has no access to freshwater.

We don't feed them, and they are hungry.  And legion!

You are speaking truth, bcsapper. 

We need to address the predatory capitalist destruction of the environment that is destabilizing populations worldwide.  

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, jacee said:

You are speaking truth, bcsapper. 

We need to address the predatory capitalist destruction of the environment that is destabilizing populations worldwide.  

All other economic systems are more destructive of the environment and more destabilizing of populations worldwide. Stick to not attack capitalism and instead embracing it as an ally to the environmentalist cause, protip.

[jacee]

6 minutes ago, PPC2019 said:

Enjoy... your time... you just gave me a great idea.... To promote the PPC run again.

Maybe someone could stand on the sidewalk during the mornings Rushhour, with a Banner over their head that reads "If ya hate Traffic, than lets ban Mass immigration." Lets see how many patriots come out of the closet and start honking their horns for ya.

Lets go to the most terrible traffic jams, and have an army of protesters wake people up. I'm sure that would get on the CBC news.

Let's be some puppet masters and have some fun.

 "mass immigration" is caused by predatory capitalists destroying other countries to steal their natural resources. 

Protest that. 

[Guest PPC2019]

2 minutes ago, jacee said:

You are speaking truth, bcsapper. 

We need to address the predatory capitalist destruction of the environment that is destabilizing populations worldwide.  

Why don't you wake up... You buy your computer from china... you buy your clothes from sweatshops. You fill your car with gasoline from dictatorships that behead people. Unless you're willing to put your money, where your mouth is, you're a predatory capitalist.

[Guest PPC2019]

1 minute ago, jacee said:

 "mass immigration" is caused by predatory capitalists destroying other countries to steal their natural resources. 

Protest that. 

For once we agree on something.

[jacee]

2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

All other economic systems are more destructive of the environment and more destabilizing of populations worldwide. Stick to not attack capitalism and instead embracing it as an ally to the environmentalist cause, protip.

I distinguish between healthy capitalism and predatory capitalism.

Predatory capitalism lies to people and corrupts governments to promote products that are destructive to people and environments. 

I'm not sure how we address that, but the distinction is absolutely necessary. 

 

[jacee]

5 minutes ago, PPC2019 said:

Why don't you wake up... You buy your computer from china... you buy your clothes from sweatshops. You fill your car with gasoline from dictatorships that behead people. Unless you're willing to put your money, where your mouth is, you're a predatory capitalist.

Quite willing. 

I buy few clothes, and only natural fibres.

I don't drive. My cabs are electric.

I don't have a computer. 

Find me an environmentally friendly smartphone, and I'm golden.  Lol 

[Argus]

3 hours ago, jacee said:

You missed the fact that we're shutting down the oil industry by removing public subsidies. That's all that's necessary, because the fossil fuel industry isn't profitable without subsidies, but renewable energy is.

What planet do you live on anyway? You think countries around the world from Germany to India to China are building coal plants because renewable energy is cheaper? You think Ontario didn't practically bankrupt itself expanding renewable energy because it's cheaper? Your fantasies about how renewable energy is cheap and how the oil industry is so heavily subsidized have no basis in reality.