This is what the Left in Canada has been reduced to

[QuebecOverCanada]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

I simply do not want to be subject to a left wing nanny state which is not constrained by such a weak constitution and compromised judiciary.

Your system has its flaws in those domains. Land of the free? Judge it after this.

 

[Dougie93]

Just now, QuebecOverCanada said:

Your system has its flaws in those domains. Land of the free? Judge it after this.

 

Not going to bother because I have never asserted that America is not flawed, America is deeply flawed in many ways, but it's still more to my tastes than loonie left wing Canada.

[QuebecOverCanada]

1 minute ago, Argus said:

As I said, this is hardly the first such video I've seen of these people.

There are how many left wingers in Canada? 15 million?

So you get 5 or 6 incidents and make a generalization?

[QuebecOverCanada]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

Not going to bother because I have never asserted that America is not flawed, America is deeply flawed in many ways, but it's still more to my tastes than loonie left wing Canada.

You know, John Stossel is one of my favorite journalists. He's world class. He's from Fox News by the way. He's the author and narrator of this report, and you might look at it if you feel paranoid about Canada. Because USA is one kind of a hot mess.

[Argus]

4 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

There are how many left wingers in Canada? 15 million?

So you get 5 or 6 incidents and make a generalization?

And how often do the Left do that about conservative? About 15 million times a day?

 

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

You know, John Stossel is one of my favorite journalists. He's world class. He's from Fox News by the way. He's the author and narrator of this report, and you might look at it if you feel paranoid about Canada. Because USA is one kind of a hot mess.

The USA has always been a hot mess, it's a cascading series of revolutions, America is constantly in flux, it's a Hurly Burly and it's not for everybody.

Bear in mind that I am still going to retain my residence in Canada too, I have right of return in both directions, my record is impeccable, neither country has any quarrel with me.

Edited September 30, 2019 by Dougie93

[QuebecOverCanada]

1 minute ago, Argus said:

And how often do the Left do that about conservative? About 15 million times a day?

 

Oh shut up.

[Argus]

8 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

Why do you feel the need to spread your blanket as wide as possible by using all-encompassing terms like "the Left", thereby creating a self-defeating argument based on nothing but hyperbole?

Why not? You do. The Left is constantly denigrating conservatives.

And again, this is not existing in a vacuum. They've done this many times, and people like you, Jacee, and Dialamah have defended them. All your friends on the other board think they're heroes.

[Argus]

Just now, QuebecOverCanada said:

Oh shut up.

Okay, internet tough guy.

[QuebecOverCanada]

Just now, Argus said:

Why not? You do. The Left is constantly denigrating conservatives.

And again, this is not existing in a vacuum. They've done this many times, and people like you, Jacee, and Dialamah have defended them. All your friends on the other board think they're heroes.

Take a deep breath, and read what you just wrote.

You're just a SJW, but for the Right.

[QuebecOverCanada]

Just now, Argus said:

Okay, internet tough guy.

I mean it with compassion man.

[Argus]

1 minute ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Take a deep breath, and read what you just wrote.

You're just a SJW, but for the Right.

At least I don't have to wear a balaclava when I go outside.

[QuebecOverCanada]

Basically Argus, what I mean, is that Leftist extremists excuse their actions because they believe everybody on the Right is a Fascist Nazi Scum.

What you're doing, it's legitimizing a retaliation based on the fact that all Leftists are all commies, antifas, islamist scum.

Both are wrong. What you're being is a SJW for the right. Sorry to say that, but you're not an intellectual. You're just fueling the flames of extremism.

[QuebecOverCanada]

2 minutes ago, Argus said:

At least I don't have to wear a balaclava when I go outside.

What's the point of that.

What I'm telling you is that you're the intellectual equivalent of an SJW. Not that you're an Antifa-like activist.

[Argus]

Just now, QuebecOverCanada said:

Basically Argus, what I mean, is that Leftist extremists excuse their actions because they believe everybody on the Right is a Fascist Nazi Scum.

If by "Leftist extremists" you mean the Liberal party of Canada then I suppose you're right.

The Liberal Party has spent many months spreading fear and alarm through their senior ministers as well as bought and paid for members of the media that there is a vast white supremacy and nazi organization in Canada, and that people like Andrew Scheer are, even if not card carrying members, bosom buddies who wink at it. When these people are screaming 'nazi scum' at people going to Bernier's meeting it's because Justin Trudeau told them to. He and his party have done everything they can to make it seem like any criticism of multiculturalism or immigration and any attempt to cut it is the equivalent of white supremacy racism. The NDP is no better.

Just now, QuebecOverCanada said:

Both are wrong. What you're being is a SJW for the right. Sorry to say that, but you're not an intellectual. You're just fueling the flames of extremism.

I'm not a SJW. I leave that to the Left. Conservatives aren't interested in making everyone equal. That's a socialist idea. All we want is for government to keep its hands out of our wallets and keep its nose out of what we say and do. Sorry if that means I'm not willing to roll over and meekly accept the denunciations of Leftist scum on the internet or in person. And I could care less if Quebec separatists don't like it. By your own admission this isn't your country anyway.

[QuebecOverCanada]

Just now, Argus said:

If by "Leftist extremists" you mean the Liberal party of Canada then I suppose you're right.

The Liberal Party has spent many months spreading fear and alarm through their senior ministers as well as bought and paid for members of the media that there is a vast white supremacy and nazi organization in Canada, and that people like Andrew Scheer are, even if not card carrying members, bosom buddies who wink at it. When these people are screaming 'nazi scum' at people going to Bernier's meeting it's because Justin Trudeau told them to. He and his party have done everything they can to make it seem like any criticism of multiculturalism or immigration and any attempt to cut it is the equivalent of white supremacy racism. The NDP is no better.

I'm not a SJW. I leave that to the Left. Conservatives aren't interested in making everyone equal. That's a socialist idea. All we want is for government to keep its hands out of our wallets and keep its nose out of what we say and do. Sorry if that means I'm not willing to roll over and meekly accept the denunciations of Leftist scum on the internet or in person. And I could care less if Quebec separatists don't like it. By your own admission this isn't your country anyway.

You have to leave the Label Liberals to All Leftists.

I don't agree with you. Many on the left, actually left the left because of such actions from the fringe groups, actively funded by corporations and anonymous rich entities.  You have to give time to what is happening. Society swings left, swings right. You have to be patient and not jump to conclusions that a huge fringe of the population in Canada are extremists. Many are idealists, some are extremists, most are mentally stable, decent human beings with families.

[Argus]

9 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

What's the point of that.

What I'm telling you is that you're the intellectual equivalent of an SJW. Not that you're an Antifa-like activist.

And the Liberals and NDP consider you the intellectual equivalent of the KKK. Wait until after the election and Trudeau overrides Bill 21 because only white supremacists support it.

Edited September 30, 2019 by Argus

[Dougie93]

12 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Take a deep breath, and read what you just wrote.

You're just a SJW, but for the Right.

Why would you say that?  Far be it from me to defend Argus, but I don't find him to be ideological at all, he's seems perfectly bourgeois to me.

[QuebecOverCanada]

Just now, Argus said:

And the Liberals and NDP consider you the intellectual equivalent of the KKK. Wai tuntil after the election and Trudeau overrides Bill 21 because only white supremacists support it.

You don't think the answer to insanity is common sense? You think the general population is so dumb that you have to act like a chimp on the SJW spectrum to get ahead?

[Moonlight Graham]

3 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

The Canadian right is not prepared to kill nor die for anything, they are all pussy whipped by the Canadian left.

The Canadian left is Americanized, the Canadian right is cowering.

Canada never had an American Revolutionary War, nor a civil war.  The American right was willing to fight and die in vast numbers  to maintain slavery.  The right here has never assassinated a Prime Minister, unlike in the US and a POTUS.  Has all this fighting and killing and dying been worth it?  Live by the sword....

Are the Canadian right a bit pussy whipped by the left?  I'd say yes, PC culture is a strong force here, but the right also fights hard against the left politically via peaceful democratic methods.  Alberta dominates the CPC party, for instance, and Alberta threatens to separate (peacefully), and voters put in Doug Ford while rejecting Wynne's Liberals and an NDP alternative.

One can say a good portion of the American right is also pussy whipped by the left too.  Less so than in Canada i think, but still whipped by leftwing PC culture.  Most sane people with a reputation to uphold don't like being labeled racist or sexist etc., and the left has (smartly, to their credit) used this to their political advantage.

[QuebecOverCanada]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

Why would you say that?  Far be it from me to defend Argus, but I don't find him to be ideological at all, he's seems perfectly bourgeois to me.

Because he's doing the same thinking as the SJW.

All the SJWs think the ones on the right are Fascist, Racist, Homophobic, etc.

And then you have the keyboard warriors on the Right with you and Angus, who paint with a broad brush all the left as being immoral, communist, antifa-like.

Calm down, both of you. You're just autists in a basement.

[Argus]

2 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

You don't think the answer to insanity is common sense? You think the general population is so dumb that you have to act like a chimp on the SJW spectrum to get ahead?

Maybe your grasp of English is simply too poor to understand the moderation of my words. I am not a turn-the-other-cheek sort of guy. If someone  or some group are acting like assholes towards me or my group I will respond in kind.

Again, ANTIFA isn't acting like this because they imagine Bernier is a Nazi. They're doing so because of the Liberal party of Canada and others on the Left who have demonized any expression of care for Canadian traditions, values and beliefs, and any attempt at lowering immigration as akin to white supremacy. Portraying this is just a few fringe leftists is pathetically dishonest.

[QuebecOverCanada]

Just now, Argus said:

Maybe your grasp of English is simply too poor to understand the moderation of my words. I am not a turn-the-other-cheek sort of guy. If someone  or some group are acting like assholes towards me or my group I will respond in kind.

Again, ANTIFA isn't acting like this because they imagine Bernier is a Nazi. They're doing so because of the Liberal party of Canada and others on the Left who have demonized any expression of care for Canadian traditions, values and beliefs, and any attempt at lowering immigration as akin to white supremacy. Portraying this is just a few fringe leftists is pathetically dishonest.

And those were Liberals from Trudeau? You're sure of that?

 

Lol

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Because he's doing the same thinking as the SJW.

All the SJWs think the ones on the right are Fascist, Racist, Homophobic, etc.

And then you have the keyboard warriors on the Right with you and Angus, who paint with a broad brush all the left as being immoral, communist, antifa-like.

Calm down, both of you. You're just autists in a basement.

I said I don't find Antifa to be a problem, I said they're just college kids.  This is what college kids do, hippie flower power, punk rock, what have you.

Antifa doesn't bother me.  In America I defend their right to cause shit, right up to the threshold of Brandenburg v. Ohio.

They have the freedom to exceed that threshold as well, but then their actions are not constitutionally protected.

[Argus]

3 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Because he's doing the same thinking as the SJW.

All the SJWs think the ones on the right are Fascist, Racist, Homophobic, etc.

And then you have the keyboard warriors on the Right with you and Angus, who paint with a broad brush all the left as being immoral, communist, antifa-like.

Calm down, both of you. You're just autists in a basement.

Says the guy who is such a French nationalist he wants to separate from Canada so he can live among only the pure loine Francophones, and slash immigration because they aren't believers in the glory of the French language.