Is China actually a Fascist regime?

[Dougie93]

There's no resistance, I'm not resisting Canadians, they can wallow in their loonie leftist fear and loathing of America, whatever, I just can't go there, I can't hate my own kin.

Like I say, when in Upper Canada, I resist HM enemies and defend HM peace, I'm not the resistance, I'm the Loyalist landed gentry in effect.

Loonie leftist Post National Canadians are the resistance, against their own Queen.

Edited December 2, 2019 by Dougie93

[DrYouth]

2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

No it doesn't. It confirms my theory. The press is bought and paid for by the Liberal Party of Canada, on the face of it. Your free speech rights don't exist the Notwithstanding Clause overrides them.

How does it confirm your theory? This is poltics... pork barrel politics... not ownership of the press by a political party... and the CBC is calling it out. Not that the CBC has anything to talk about it... it is overtly subsidized by the government. So you think it might be last one to rat out its "overlords".

What the fuck are you talking about with the Notwithstanding clause?

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

There's no resistance, I'm not resisting Canadians, they can wallow in their loonie leftist fear and loathing of America, whatever, I just can't go there, I can't hate my own kin.

Looking down your nose at the light of civilization is just moronic, don't even need to be kin to take note of that.

[Charles Anthony]

Folks,  

Stay on topic and avoid thread drift.  

[DrYouth]

5 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

It's still not actual property rights, not like in America. In America you can actually own the land, not just freehold it for the sovereign, because you are the sovereign.

This is arcane stuff... doesn't actually play out on the markets... you are picking at historical nits.

Canada isn't seizing private property or it would be an international outcast in no time flat.

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, DrYouth said:

How does it confirm your theory? This is poltics... pork barrel politics... not ownership of the press by a political party... and the CBC is calling it out. Not that the CBC has anything to talk about it... it is overtly subsidized by the government. So you think it might be last one to rat out its "overlords".

What the fuck are you talking about with the Notwithstanding clause?

This is politics in land with no free speech where buying off the media is considered politics as usual. As for the notwithstanding clause, it makes most of charter rights void if the majority simply agrees that they are.

[DrYouth]

1 minute ago, Charles Anthony said:

Folks,  

Stay on topic and avoid thread drift.  

I think these guys are trying to say Canada is as a bad a regime as China...

So we are duking that out first...

Maybe... it's hard to say what they are ever getting at.

[DrYouth]

They also didn't like my definitions of fascist vs communist vs progressive vs liberal vs conservative...

Apparently I was too much of a "fence sitter" for them.

Edited December 2, 2019 by DrYouth

[Yzermandius19]

5 minutes ago, DrYouth said:

This is arcane stuff... doesn't actually play out on the markets... you are picking at historical nits.

It does play out in the markets. Look at America, the only nation that actually protects property rights, it's no coincidence it's the largest market in the world. Real property rights are the backbone of it's prosperity, as is real speech rights, and the right to defend those rights by bearing arms. A deadly combo.

Edited December 2, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, DrYouth said:

I think these guys are trying to say Canada is as a bad a regime as China...

So we are duking that out first...

Maybe... it's hard to say what they are ever getting at.

China is worse, but Canada is getting bed with China, so apparently it wants to get even worse than it already is.

[DrYouth]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

It does play out in the markets. Look at America, the only nation that actually protects property rights, it's no coincidence it's the largest market in the world.

It's the largest market in the world for lots and lots of reasons...

Crown land doesn't rank.

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, DrYouth said:

It's the largest market in the world for lots and lots of reasons...

Crown land doesn't rank.

Real property rights are one of the biggest reasons. As are real free speech rights. As is a real right to bear arms. None of which Canada has.

Crown land is an example of Canada not having real property rights, one of the main things that holds it back from American dynamism.

Edited December 2, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Dougie93]

19 minutes ago, Charles Anthony said:

Folks,  

Stay on topic and avoid thread drift.  

Acknowledged.  Wilco.

[Dougie93]

29 minutes ago, DrYouth said:

They also didn't like my definitions of fascist vs communist vs progressive vs liberal vs conservative...

Apparently I was too much of a "fence sitter" for them.

You're gonna make things real easy on them Chicoms, Jelly Fish : "there is truth on both sides,"

They're not Fascists though,  this is a Communist takeover of loonie leftist Canada, Xi Jinping is simply a Stalinist in the classical sense.

[DrYouth]

China is more fascist than communist... but still communist.

Most communism has had the authoritarian element of fascism... although it's not exactly in the definition of communism... marx "dictatorship of the proletariat" was always a giveaway here that this thing could really operate no other way.

Obviously the ethnonational element is separate... communism pretended to be international, colour and race blind.... but never really succeeded at being this.

In the end it was more of imperial than it pretended to be. Soviet "Russian" empire vs Communist Chinese empire... two fascist empires deploying the same smoke screen.

[Dougie93]

12 minutes ago, DrYouth said:

China is more fascist than communist... but still communist.

No.   They're not Fascists, again, it's simply called Socialism In One Country as opposed to the World Socialist Revolution.

The essence of Stalinist doctrine is that you use any means necessary in the now, to acheive the Communist Post Scarcity Utopia in the future.

[Dougie93]

If you read the PRC dogma, it is the polar opposite of Fascism, it's all about Internationalist Harmony and One World Kumbaya, brought to you by the Chinese Communist Party.

[Yzermandius19]

23 minutes ago, DrYouth said:

China is more fascist than communist... but still communist.

Most communism has had the authoritarian element of fascism... although it's not exactly in the definition of communism... marx "dictatorship of the proletariat" was always a giveaway here that this thing could really operate no other way.

Obviously the ethnonational element is separate... communism pretended to be international, colour and race blind.... but never really succeeded at being this.

In the end it was more of imperial than it pretended to be. Soviet "Russian" empire vs Communist Chinese empire... two fascist empires deploying the same smoke screen.

All Communists are really fascists is left wing propaganda to whitewash the crimes of Commies.

Edited December 2, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Dougie93]

Bear in mind that from their point of view, their militarism is entirely defensive.  

They are not out to launch Blitzkriegs, they say that they are set upon by the Imperialists and so they are simply defending their revolution.

The primary lever the Chinese are using is not military force,  they are going around the world using their war chest of US dollars to pay for development projects.

That is not Fascists, that is Communists.

If they were Fascist, they would be waging war, the cleansing war of annihilation which is central to Fascist dogma, glorious war for its own sake.

[Dougie93]

The Fascist regimes are not hard to discern, they are in plain sight;  Turkey, Brazil, Philippines, Pakistan etc.

China is not like them, China is fundamentally Internationalist, the Chinese Communists are going to save the world from itself : Communism.

[Dougie93]

If you talk to a Chinese Communist, they will insist that they are not out to subjugate Canada but rather liberate Canada from the Anglo-American Imperialists

They will bring Harmony to Canada.  Harmony is their doctrine.  They will bring peace, order and good governance to Canada, for your own good.

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

If you talk to a Chinese Communist, they will insist that they are not out to subjugate Canada but rather liberate Canada from the Anglo-American Imperialists

They will bring Harmony to Canada.  Harmony is their doctrine.  They will bring peace, order and good governance to Canada, for your own good.

Canadians are of course suckers for that pitch. No wonder they are selling out to the Chicoms.

[Dougie93]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

Canadians are of course suckers for that pitch. No wonder they are selling out to the Chicoms.

The Communists are clever, the Communists are asymmetrical, the Communists are intellectuals.

Unlike the Fascists, force is the last resort of the Communists, whereas for the Fascists, force is everything, a Fascist has to have war of annihilation.

Hence why the Soviets crushed the Nazis, the Soviets had a much more holistic concept of operations, the Nazis just wanted their Doomsday War.

[Dougie93]

Fascism is about purity, simplicity, the total dominance of the masculine as a warrior, a cleansing war for its own sake, to purify them of the untermensch.

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Power level, reveal my power level
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Dropping red-pills, on the normalfags
Mask on, fuck it, mask off
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Edited December 2, 2019 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

Many accuse the Woke of being Fascist, but this is not the case, the Woke are totalitarian leftists, they do not glorify what the Fascists embrace, quite the opposite.

The Fascists glorify the masculine, the strong, the warriors, the dominance of the Master Race.

The Fascists are all about purification, by force of arms, the purifying of the race by war of annihilation.

Both Communists and Fascists seek a totalitarian Post Scarcity Utopia, but the nature of those Utopias are vastly different in both ideology and intent.

The Fascists seek to wipe the untermensch out, the Communist seek to indoctrinate them, to convert them to the cause.

The Woke are Maoist Communists, going around with their little Red Books, decrying those who do not submit to the indoctrination.

Edited December 2, 2019 by Dougie93