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take gay marriage as an example.

seems you should support it. human right. blablabla.

ok. what will happen? they have no babies. maybe far later new tech could enable guys or girls having baby without opposite sex. not now. what happens next? population dives. we need more immigration, even refugees, who cares? we just have no enough young people to pay pensions. yes welcome Muslim refugees. even terrorists. who cares?

gays or lesbians have no babies! it's very bad for a COUNTRY! yes they can marry as they want, for personal happiness, nobody against that. human right you know. but come on! stop advertise it on any media! don't make it a COOL thing so young people should follow it. maybe some religious people hate gay thing so much that they want them just marry with each other and kill themselves genetically. well, have to say they are too successful. now some young people really buy it. they think it's cool. and also political correct.

what do you say? dare you say no to gays and lesbians?

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Yes, I'm quite certain that I have not been brainwashed into believing gays and lesbians deserve the same human rights as anyone else. :)

But I'll play your game.

Take infertile couples and men with erectile dysfunction as an example.  Seems you should support it.  Human right blablabla

ok. What will happen?  They have no babies! It's very bad for a COUNTRY!  Yes, they can marry for personal happiness, nobody against that.  Human rights, you know.  But come on!

BTW, I know gay and lesbian couples who have adopted children or had IVF to have a child or have paid a surrogate to have a child for them or they marry someone who already has children and raise them as their own.

Are you sure YOU haven't been brainwashed?  What is it that you want to tell gays and lesbians NO about?

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maybe I didn't express correctly

I'm not against gays or lesbians. not their fault to go that way

the problem is, gay marriage issue becomes political-correctness, too many people are too crazy about that

how to choose a sound opinion? how to choose a suitable politician to represent us? well, so many people would look at his or her attitude about gay marriage, first and only.

it becomes a taboo  nobody dare to challenge, only the 'correct' opinion could appear on newspapers, radio, tv, no one dares to  argue

they got their marriage already, so be it. the media should stop sing praise for it. the country, the people should move on, try to solve more important issues. we have no other issues?

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On 7/3/2019 at 6:44 PM, lyzingg said:

take gay marriage as an example.

seems you should support it. human right. blablabla.

ok. what will happen? they have no babies. maybe far later new tech could enable guys or girls having baby without opposite sex. not now. what happens next? population dives. we need more immigration, even refugees, who cares? we just have no enough young people to pay pensions. yes welcome Muslim refugees. even terrorists. who cares?

gays or lesbians have no babies! it's very bad for a COUNTRY! yes they can marry as they want, for personal happiness, nobody against that. human right you know. but come on! stop advertise it on any media! don't make it a COOL thing so young people should follow it. maybe some religious people hate gay thing so much that they want them just marry with each other and kill themselves genetically. well, have to say they are too successful. now some young people really buy it. they think it's cool. and also political correct.

what do you say? dare you say no to gays and lesbians?

Instead of blaming gays and lesbians for declining birth rates, people should ask why heterosexual couples are having fewer kids. So many heterosexual couples are now having either one child or none at all. People are marrying later and having fewer kids.  Responsible people are putting off marriage and kids until they can afford to take care of them, and in these days of high rent and often high student debt, it often means people are waiting until their careers are well established before they have kids. That can take to their late 20s or their 30s, while people used to have kids in their early 20s.  (Irresponsible people, of course, are still having lots of kids without bothering to worry whether they can provide for them or not.)

Heterosexuality is never going to become unpopular. Heterosexuality is doing extremely well. The vast majority of people prefer heterosexuality and have no interest in changing. Declining birth rates aren't a result of people "turning gay".

 -k

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On 7/3/2019 at 9:44 PM, lyzingg said:

take gay marriage as an example.

seems you should support it. human right. blablabla.

ok. what will happen? they have no babies. maybe far later new tech could enable guys or girls having baby without opposite sex. not now. what happens next? population dives. we need more immigration, even refugees, who cares? we just have no enough young people to pay pensions. yes welcome Muslim refugees. even terrorists. who cares?

gays or lesbians have no babies! it's very bad for a COUNTRY! yes they can marry as they want, for personal happiness, nobody against that. human right you know. but come on! stop advertise it on any media! don't make it a COOL thing so young people should follow it. maybe some religious people hate gay thing so much that they want them just marry with each other and kill themselves genetically. well, have to say they are too successful. now some young people really buy it. they think it's cool. and also political correct.

what do you say? dare you say no to gays and lesbians?

Sounds like you are struggling with the idea of being gay.  Problem is intellectualzing that conflict won' t make it go away.

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