Brexit from the European Union.

[Iceni warrior]

10 hours ago, Rue said:

I think you are kind calling his ideology nationalist. Its not. His concept as explained on this forum excludes anyone from nationality who is not defined by him as his version of what a white Christian should be. Its got nothing to do with nationality.  Its just an exclusive bigoted category he places himself in and likes to exclude others from. I appreciated your perspective. You are directly impacted so I prefer to hear from people like you for that reason. Thank you.

Nationalist was the politest word I could find to describe his position.

[Rue]

On 2/6/2020 at 5:24 AM, Iceni warrior said:

Nationalist was the politest word I could find to describe his position.

One needs a proctologist to explain certain positions. 

Edited February 7, 2020 by Rue

[taxme]

10 hours ago, Iceni warrior said:

As soon as you start talking about illegals it becomes clear that your arguments have nothing to do with Brexit.

Thanks to its island status the UK has very few illegal immigrants. EU workers come here perfectly legally and pay taxes just like everyone else.

Also the fact that you think it will be just a few minor changes shows your ignorance and unwillingness to understand the consequences of leaving the world's largest trade block.

You are not alone, even people in this country ignored those consequences and listened to xenophobes like Farage.

1. The illegals was one of the reasons why the pro-Brexit voters wanted out of the EU. Even Nigel Farage said that this was one reason why. Illegals have plenty to do with Brexit. Illegal immigration is and has been one big gigantic fiasco that is going on in many countries, especially here in dumb azz Canada where there is approx. 60,000 illegals living in Canada illegally. But we won't talk about that. A very touchy subject with some liberals and socialists here. The truth must not be told. 

2. According to The Telegraph, there are approx. 1.2 million illegal immigrants living in the UK, a quarter of the entire total in all of Europe. Those are not my words. In the UK, some Brits do agree that the UK has an illegal immigration problem. But the rags that you prefer to read will tell you just the opposite. There is no problem with illegals at all. Just a couple of them running around.

3. Some adjustments will have to be made then? Is that better for you to understand? I am not ignorant to the fact that there will be some people like you that will get hurt but the deed is done, and now you must try to make some adjustments to how you did things before Brexit. China was big business for America and was taking great advantage of America and Americans. Then Trump came along, and told China that things are going to change around here now. No more Mr. Nice Guy to them. Did America go belly up because Trump said it was time for fair trade and not a ripoff trade anymore? Nope. America has become stronger now thanks to Trump and his trade deals with China and other countries like Canada and Mexico. 

You are not happy but to the Brexit victors go the spoils. They will now have a say as to how the UK will work and not you anymore. This is not showing ignorance or my unwillingness to understand. I just do not see the panic that you seem to think will happen because of Brexit. Trust people like Farage and Johnson. They know more about Brexit than you ever will know and the consequences. You and your pro-Brexit people are now alone to have to live to the consequences. Remember that you were the one that said that you were a truck driver. Hardly an expert someone who could say that they know all that much about what will happen after Brexit. Farage and Johnson will make the UK great again. Just my humble opinion. 

[taxme]

21 hours ago, Rue said:

I think you are kind calling his ideology nationalist. Its not. His concept as explained on this forum excludes anyone from nationality who is not defined by him as his version of what a white Christian should be. Its got nothing to do with nationality.  Its just an exclusive bigoted category he places himself in and likes to exclude others from. I appreciated your perspective. You are directly impacted so I prefer to hear from people like you for that reason. Thank you.

At least I can say one good thing about Iceni that you are not, and that is that he appears to be a lot more civilized with his replies, where with you, you can only come back with rude and intolerant and ignorant replies and calling me nasty inappropriate names that are not called for. You do not like me because I dare to question or challenge all things that have to do with Judaism and Israel. The scared cow and taboo subjects too you that must never be discussed or debated or talked about. 

Sure, I am a white patriotic nationalist gentile, and proud of it, just like you appear to be proud to be Jewish. So, what's your stunned point? I must assume that my saying and being pro-Brexit, well too you, that must mean that I am a white racist of some kind, eh? I have found over the years that it is the Jewish people that like to push their Jewishness nationality and does try to exclude anyone whom is not one of them. I have a feeling that you were against Brexit for some u/k reason. Care to tell us that reason? Would it be because of Farage and Johnson who are both white and conservative, the kinds of people that you prefer to attack and mock rather than listen too, and who of course are not of that other ilk kind.

So? What is it? 

[Iceni warrior]

19 minutes ago, taxme said:

1. The illegals was one of the reasons why the pro-Brexit voters wanted out of the EU. Even Nigel Farage said that this was one reason why. Illegals have plenty to do with Brexit. Illegal immigration is and has been one big gigantic fiasco that is going on in many countries, especially here in dumb azz Canada where there is approx. 60,000 illegals living in Canada illegally. But we won't talk about that. A very touchy subject with some liberals and socialists here. The truth must not be told. 

2. According to The Telegraph, there are approx. 1.2 million illegal immigrants living in the UK, a quarter of the entire total in all of Europe. Those are not my words. In the UK, some Brits do agree that the UK has an illegal immigration problem. But the rags that you prefer to read will tell you just the opposite. There is no problem with illegals at all. Just a couple of them running around.

3. Some adjustments will have to be made then? Is that better for you to understand? I am not ignorant to the fact that there will be some people like you that will get hurt but the deed is done, and now you must try to make some adjustments to how you did things before Brexit. China was big business for America and was taking great advantage of America and Americans. Then Trump came along, and told China that things are going to change around here now. No more Mr. Nice Guy to them. Did America go belly up because Trump said it was time for fair trade and not a ripoff trade anymore? Nope. America has become stronger now thanks to Trump and his trade deals with China and other countries like Canada and Mexico. 

You are not happy but to the Brexit victors go the spoils. They will now have a say as to how the UK will work and not you anymore. This is not showing ignorance or my unwillingness to understand. I just do not see the panic that you seem to think will happen because of Brexit. Trust people like Farage and Johnson. They know more about Brexit than you ever will know and the consequences. You and your pro-Brexit people are now alone to have to live to the consequences. Remember that you were the one that said that you were a truck driver. Hardly an expert someone who could say that they know all that much about what will happen after Brexit. Farage and Johnson will make the UK great again. Just my humble opinion. 

How exactly do you think that Brexit is going to stop illegal immigration?

The vast majority arrive legally and then overstay their visas. Brexit cannot stop that.

And no I'm not a truck driver.

[taxme]

36 minutes ago, Rue said:

Of couese. Besides sometimes one needs a proctologist to explain certain positions. That or maybe someone doing yoga for centuries.

Man, can you ever come up with some silly azz ridiculous replies like "sometimes one needs a proctologist to explain certain positions or doing some yoga for centuries". Are you into rectums? What the hell is all of that supposed to really mean and what has that got to do with Brexit? You sure do appear to be one hell of a broken up puzzle to have to try and put together again. You do really appear like a hopeless mixed up puzzle.  

[taxme]

8 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said:

How exactly do you think that Brexit is going to stop illegal immigration?

The vast majority arrive legally and then overstay their visas. Brexit cannot stop that.

And no I'm not a truck driver.

Illegal immigration can never be stopped. There will always be illegal immigration. But rather than allow that illegal to stay and be allowed to make an appeal to fight and be able to stay in that country for maybe years they should instead be taken to an airport right away and be shipped right back from whence they came. Once the word gets out that this will happen to any illegals caught, illegal immigration may just stop or at least slow down to maybe a trickle. Trump has done just that. Canada likes to f around with illegals. All illegals need to be treated as criminals. Just my opinion. What's yours? 

I thought that was what you said that you did and that you drove a truck to deliver products of some kind? I will go back to one of your replies and check that out. Was I close?  

 

[Marocc]

5 hours ago, taxme said:

maybe years they should instead be taken to an airport right away and be shipped right back from whence they came. Once the word gets out that this will happen to any illegals caught, illegal immigration may just stop or at least slow down to maybe a trickle.

You have a hundred people of whom 30 are guilty, but you don't have the option of finding out which ones. The punishment for those guilty is death. What do you do?

[Rue]

21 hours ago, taxme said:

 

Sure, I am a white patriotic nationalist gentile, and proud of it, just like you appear to be proud to be Jewish.

Farage and Johnson who are both white and conservative, the kinds of people that you prefer to attack and mock rather than listen too, and who of course are not of that other ilk kind.

So? What is it? 

 

Your; i-playing victim; ii-use of the term "white patriotic nationalist gentile" ; and your attempt to deflect away from you with a reference to Farage-Johnson:

 

same old tune no matter what name you give it

                                                                 

 

Edited February 7, 2020 by Rue

[Rue]

21 hours ago, taxme said:

 "sometimes one needs a proctologist to explain certain positions..". Are you into rectums? What the hell is all of that supposed to really mean and what has that got to do with Brexit? 

Here since my words are clearly  confusing you I am now using pictorial aids.

[taxme]

1 hour ago, Rue said:

 

Your; i-playing victim; ii-use of the term "white patriotic nationalist gentile" ; and your attempt to deflect away from you with a reference to Farage-Johnson:

 

same old tune no matter what name you give it

                                                                 

 

It is your own people that are always claiming victim hood ad nauseam. Quite frankly, I am getting quite sick and tired of their whining and crying about how hard they have and are being done by. It's no wonder there are so many groups out there who are also getting sick and tired of their whining. They want answers also. I have asked you at least twice already as to why the Jewish people are so despised or why do you think that Hitler was supposed to despise them so much? You always refuse to answer. Come on, stop running away from the question, will you. They are simple questions for you to at least take a shot at? Here is your chance to make this white patriotic nationalist look really bad? It always appears as though all you want to do is post pictures like those above. Very childish indeed. I know that I am never going to get a Christmas present from you, but give me something will you besides pictures of Nazi's and white supremos. Are those the only replies you can come back with? Pretty poor and pathetic responses if I do say so myself. Go Boris and Farage, the real victims of that ilk.  

Edited February 7, 2020 by taxme

[taxme]

1 hour ago, Rue said:

Here since my words are clearly  confusing you I am now using pictorial aids.

You keep confusing me all the time. Okay, it's your turn to take that shot now. You appear to need some fixing really bad. I already have taken my shot decades ago at fixing up my past liberal silly azz stupidity. Do the walk instead of always just doing the victim hood talk. I hope it hurts. Just saying.  

[SpankyMcFarland]

Britain and the US have multiple issues to sort out before a trade deal can be considered, e.g. Huawei, the proposed UK digital services tax, US chlorinated chickens, the whole GM issue and the Sacoolas case where the wife of a CIA officer killed a young man in a traffic crash because she was driving on the wrong side of road, absconded to the US and now, with the support of her government, refuses to return and face justice in the UK. That’s some special relationship. 
 

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“And if anyone is questioning that, I think we just need to ask what would have happened if the boot had been on the other foot, if a British diplomat had been involved in a road accident in the United States where someone had died and had fled on a private plane back to the UK and was evading justice – I don’t think President Trump would stand for that for one second, and I don’t think Britain would have behaved in that way.”

Hunt added: “And I would just say to the United States – and I’m someone who’s the strongest supporter of the special relationship, I think in a very uncertain world the democracies of the world need to stand together – but if we’re going to be in an alliance, we need to treat each other like allies, and that is not happening.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/09/anne-sacoolas-cia-officer-government-comment-harry-dunn

 

 

[Rue]

On ‎2‎/‎7‎/‎2020 at 3:58 PM, taxme said:

It is your own people that are always claiming victim hood ad nauseam.

Quite frankly, I am getting quite sick and tired of their whining and crying about how hard they have and are being done by. It's no wonder there are so many groups out there who are also getting sick and tired of their whining. They want answers also. I have asked you at least twice already as to why the Jewish people are so despised or why do you think that Hitler was supposed to despise them so much? You always refuse to answer. Come on, stop running away from the question, will you. They are simple questions for you to at least take a shot at? Here is your chance to make this white patriotic nationalist look really bad?

f. Go Boris and Farage, the real victims of that ilk.  

The first statement is another classic example of your reference to ALL Jews in a negative manner based on an unsubstantiated subjective assumption based on hating Jews.

Next your second paragraph has been answered many times. Pretending it hasn't is stupid. Each time I have answered your question is not a question, its a statement that you believe Hitler and others have good reason to hate Jews. To ask me what others think shows just how ridiculous you are. How would I know what others think. I could speculate and do speculate that anyone who thinks and states things about Jews as you do is a hateful bigot, but I do not know. I can't read the minds of such people you invent. You really need to think before you respond just once.

Next who ist"that ilk". Go on explain. As for a chance to make you look bad, I do not ask for any, you just can; help though but make them possible.

 

Edited February 10, 2020 by Rue