mirror Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 Pat Robertson Calls For Assassination Of Venezuelan President Televangelist Calls for Chavez' DeathReligious broadcaster Pat Robertson called on Monday for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, calling him a "terrific danger" to the United States. Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition of America and a former presidential candidate, said on "The 700 Club" it was the United States' duty to stop Chavez from making Venezuela a "launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism." Chavez has emerged as one of the most outspoken critics of President Bush, accusing the United States of conspiring to topple his government and possibly backing plots to assassinate him. U.S. officials have called the accusations ridiculous. "You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it," Robertson said. "It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... and I don't think any oil shipments will stop." If eveyone completely nuts in the US? For a prominent individual in American society to make a comment such as this, and for Americans to sit idly by and accept these kind of comments are tragic in the extreme. With people like this on the loose in America, the US is turning into one of the sickest societies on the planet. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 It seems that Pat has a real problem with saying stupid things. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Black Dog Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 Religious extremist promotes terrorism! Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
Toro Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 You're overreacting mirror. Remember, Jerry Falwell said that America deserved 9/11 because of its immorality. But I'd just like to thank Pat for giving credence to the anti-American left. Well done Pat. Quite the Christian thing to say, too. Quote "Canada is a country, not a sector. Remember that." - Howard Simons of Simons Research, giving advice to investors.
newbie Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 Right Toro. I think he'd have JC's blessing too. Now those people (Falwell, Robertson) scare me more than Bin Laden. Quote
Shady Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 and for Americans to sit idly by and accept these kind of comments are tragic in the extreme What do you mean accept these kinds of comments? Would you like to see the authories arrest him? He's afforded the same rights as Prof. Ward Churchill who called all of the victims of 9/11 “little Eichmanns.” Your selective outrage is humorous. *Edit Oh, and by the way, it wouldn't be a bad thing if Chavez had an "accident" and was unable to hold onto power in Venezuala. Quote
GostHacked Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 and for Americans to sit idly by and accept these kind of comments -- Oh' date=' and by the way, it wouldn't be a bad thing if Chavez had an "accident" and was unable to hold onto power in Venezuala. [right']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/right] Too bad Bush is pretty good at not falling on his face when out on his bike. I would love to see something unfortunate to happen to Bush as well. Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com
Black Dog Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 The U.S. has tried to topple the democratically-elected Chavez once before, so the fact that ravings of a nutjob like Pat Robertson are endorsed by some is no surprise. Trying to oust a democratically elected populist leader because they endanger the economic interests of the doemstic elite is par for the course. Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
Shady Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 Too bad Bush is pretty good at not falling on his face when out on his bikeThe funniest thing I've seen regarding someone falling on his face was Castro. When I saw the video of Fidel Castro tripping and falling on his fat, disgusting, dictator face, I couldn't stop laughing for what seemed like hours. Chavez is cut from the same cloth as Castro. I would love to see something similar happen to that "democratically elected" leader. Quote
Black Dog Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 The funniest thing I've seen regarding someone falling on his face was Castro. When I saw the video of Fidel Castro tripping and falling on his fat, disgusting, dictator face, I couldn't stop laughing for what seemed like hours. Chavez is cut from the same cloth as Castro. I would love to see something similar happen to that "democratically elected" leader. Why the scare quotes? Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
crazymf Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 No Christian I ever knew would say anything like that. Sometimes the fundamentalist religious people from the states get a little to far outside for even me. I go with you guys on this one. Quote The trouble with the legal profession is that 98% of its members give the rest a bad name. Don't be humble - you're not that great. Golda Meir
Shady Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 Sometimes the fundamentalist religious people from the states get a little to far outside for even me.Well, sometimes the fundamentalist religous people from any country get a little too far outside. Or, sometimes religous people from any country get that way. Or sometimes just people from any country.Why the scare quotes?I like to use quotes with "democratically elected" any time it involves authoritarian regimes. That's all. Quote
Black Dog Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 I like to use quotes with "democratically elected" any time it involves authoritarian regimes. That's all. But to call Chavez democratically elected is to be factually correct. No scare quotes necessary. If anything, they'd be better placed around "authoritarian". It's odd phrasing for a ruler who who was elected by a landslide majority (56 percent) of the voters. Unlike some Presidents I could name... Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
Technocrat Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 At a time like this I Like to think... Who Would Jesus Assasinate? Man oh man... Pat Robertson is the worst of the worst as far as the christian crazies go. Guys like him are no better then Osama and morally... not to far off. Lets face it, they both preach violence, are fundamentalist (both pretty much bastardise the crap out of islam and christianity), they both use their vast wealth to promothe their narrow hateful religious views. Pat hasn't quite hit the super star terrorist level (granted... or directly killed anyone)... but if he keeps this crap up... he might find himself there. He has consistantly promoted the destruction of the islamic holy sites in isreal... I mean this is one messed up hatred insighting cookie. Can you imagine any other talk show host saying something like that. Think what would happen if Opera said Tony Blair should be assasinated. What a messed up world. (I admit some of what is said is a stretch... but terrorism needs to be recognized on both sides) Quote
Shady Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 Unlike some Presidents I could name... Like Bill Clinton? Quote
Black Dog Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 Sure, whatever. But I'm no clear what your beef with Chavez in, other than the fact taht he's on teh Republican enemies list. Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
Argus Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 Pat Robertson Calls For Assassination Of Venezuelan PresidentTelevangelist Calls for Chavez' DeathReligious broadcaster Pat Robertson called on Monday for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, calling him a "terrific danger" to the United States. Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition of America and a former presidential candidate, said on "The 700 Club" it was the United States' duty to stop Chavez from making Venezuela a "launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism." Chavez has emerged as one of the most outspoken critics of President Bush, accusing the United States of conspiring to topple his government and possibly backing plots to assassinate him. U.S. officials have called the accusations ridiculous. "You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it," Robertson said. "It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... and I don't think any oil shipments will stop." If eveyone completely nuts in the US? Did "everyone" call for Chavez to be assasinated? NOoooooooooooo. For a prominent individual in American society to make a comment such as this, To be fair, Robertson is insane. As such he can hardly be taken as the representative for the United States, or even the religious right there. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Toro Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 At a time like this I Like to think... Who Would Jesus Assasinate? That's hilarious. Quote "Canada is a country, not a sector. Remember that." - Howard Simons of Simons Research, giving advice to investors.
Black Dog Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 To be fair, Robertson is insane. As such he can hardly be taken as the representative for the United States, or even the religious right there. The United States public, probably not (I expect the majority of Americans don't know who Hugo Chavez is). But Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition, is the granddaddy of the U.S. religious right. If anyone is representative of the religious right, it's him. Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
Shady Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 Just as Osama Bin Laden is a represenative of Islam. Quote
crazymf Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 Don't get carried away. There is nothing good about Bin Laden and using him in the same context as Robertson gets my hackles up a bit. Bin Laden has a track record of killing people like your sister and brother, had they been at the WTC, 9/11. Robertson is a mouthpiece and hasn't killed anybody. He's guilty only of making inflamed statements. I wonder if he'll be charged with making death threats under the criminal code? Quote The trouble with the legal profession is that 98% of its members give the rest a bad name. Don't be humble - you're not that great. Golda Meir
mirror Posted August 23, 2005 Author Report Posted August 23, 2005 Don't get carried away. There is nothing good about Bin Laden and using him in the same context as Robertson gets my hackles up a bit. Bin Laden has a track record of killing people like your sister and brother, had they been at the WTC, 9/11.Robertson is a mouthpiece and hasn't killed anybody. He's guilty only of making inflamed statements. I wonder if he'll be charged with making death threats under the criminal code? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Right! Quote
newbie Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 Right Toro. I think he'd have JC's blessing too. Now those people (Falwell, Robertson) scare me more than Bin Laden. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As a follow-up, the reason I said I fear these "evangelists" more can be found in some of their rhetoric: http://www.sullivan-county.com/news/pat_quotes/ http://www.mintruth.com/wiki/index.php?Jer...alwell%20Quotes To say they are just 2 individuals with inflamed opinions would not be accurate. Their ministries (Christian Broadcasting Network and Jerry Falwell Ministries) reach millions of people and influence the current US administration. After reading through some of their quotes I deem these fellows quite dangerous. True, they haven't killed anyone (yet), but are more than capable of inciting hatred and intolerance that could eventually lead to violence. I cite them only as a result of their overt hyprocricy. Quote
theloniusfleabag Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 I have to agree with crazymf on this one. Robertson should be charged with 'inciting hatred' and used as an example of the US' intolerance of religious rhetoric to further violence as a means to an end. If they fail to do so, I think you have your answer of how 'religiously right' the US gov't is or isn't. Quote Would the Special Olympics Committee disqualify kids born with flippers from the swimming events?
Shady Posted August 23, 2005 Report Posted August 23, 2005 There is nothing good about Bin Laden and using him in the same context as Robertson gets my hackles up a bitNo offense, but too bad. I'm simply pointing out, that to hold up Robertson as one who represents the views of Christians is as illogical as submitting that Osama Bin Laden represents the view of Muslims. To think that the majority of the "religious right" support the assassination of Chavez is beyond ridiculous. In fact, I would bet that there's a larger percentage of Muslims who support Osama Bin Laden. Any fool, is free to state their opinions. Robertson is a perfect example. Quote
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