Netanyahu: Outraged by Expressions of Racism

[Rue]

27 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

A failure by design. Wars are meant to be WON...not FOUGHT.

 

Zip over his head. You assume he knows the difference between a conventional war and fighting terrorists.  Come on the guy thinks a bagel is a Zionist weapon. Don't expect too much.

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40 minutes ago, Rue said:

Well that certainly is directly on point to the thread and hey you know that Gulf War never happened. By the way, you might want to before you play

that Yankee imperialist tune, try find out the difference between an actual conventional war and on-going counter-terrorism exercises.

The constant fight to contain ISIS, Al Quaeda and other Iranian or Saudi funded terror groups is not a conventional war. There is no declaration of war and there will be no peace treaty with signatories. Its not a war between nations and thus your calling it a war is bulshit. It has no finitie term. In fact it could go on for many decades and much of it is policing. Its not a conventional war between two uniformed entities following the Geneva code as you try lump it in with.

This is why I dismiss your comments. Your agenda is trite. It takes concepts like war and terrorism and infers they are on and the same and for that matter, your taunt is past childish. You simplify the cost of war and the price soldiers and civilians pay as if its a football game someone won or lost.

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My post had nothing to do with USA imperialism. It's just a fact the War on Terror is a failure.

You dismiss any comment I make, even if you agree with it. Which is really stupid.

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5 minutes ago, Rue said:

Zip over his head. You assume he knows the difference between a conventional war and fighting terrorists.  Come on the guy thinks a bagel is a Zionist weapon. Don't expect too much.

Carlin nailed it years ago.  War on homelessness, more homeless,  war on poverty, more poverty, war on terrorism,  more terrorism.

GOOD JOB !!

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33 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

A failure by design. Wars are meant to be WON...not FOUGHT.

 

Ah so you are admitting the USA failed.  But I know you'll twist that somehow.  Let's see how you play that out.. probably with a  'you are free to .....'

[Rue]

3 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

My post had nothing to do with USA imperialism. It's just a fact the War on Terror is a failure.

You dismiss any comment I make, even if you agree with it. Which is really stupid.

I dismiss 99.99% of your comments yes because I think you write really stupid things.

Just the comment the war on terror has failed in itself shows that. You throw out a subjective opinion as to an on-going conflict that has not ended and you would have people believe what you have sufficient intelligence to determine this?

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Just now, Rue said:

I dismiss 99.99% of your comments yes because I think you write really stupid things.

Just the comment the war on terror has failed in itself shows that. You throw out a subjective opinion as to an on-going conflict that has not ended and you would have people believe what you have sufficient intelligence to determine this?

Yes I do write stupid things. This included.

[Rue]

13 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

Carlin nailed it years ago.  War on homelessness, more homeless,  war on poverty, more poverty, war on terrorism,  more terrorism.

GOOD JOB !!

The canard you engage in that terrorism should be ignored to make it go away and fighting it makes it grow or causes it was not what Carlin in fact stated. Furthermore with due respect social satirists point out the futility of war but George Carlin never said if you ignore terrorism it will go away.

If you want me to agree that war is futile, on one level I would say yes but on another no. On a spiritual level killing people to settle things already suggests a failure in one sense and the people killed are lost forever so that of course is the futility I would recognize with you.

That said I also believe it is dangerously naïve to think if you appease terrorism it goes away. Appeasement is seen by terrorists as a sign of weakness which empowers them. I know because I have lived with it first hand. I have seen what it does and I have seen how abusers gain power from being appeased. That is precisely why I defer to soldiers because without them, I have seen the alternative

So you are damn right I respect soldiers and think they do a good job I am bloody well grateful for them. Don't mistake what they have to do and sacrifice for with the failures of civilians to resolve things amicably.

 

Edited September 7, 2017 by Rue

[kactus]

1 hour ago, Rue said:

That was idiotic. You came on this thread, you and your "entourage" of jihadi arm chair  warrior pissantes and derailed the thread and now you want to selectively address me  for responding to your derailment and their derailments? Lol.

You see the above comment is a exemplary of your tribal mindset thinking everyone else is inferior to you. Knock yourself out. Everytime you bring in Iran to exonerate Israel of its racism and fascistic policies it is thrown back into your face. Bring it on! 

[Rue]

Well now I believe Hudson Jones and Hot Enough said the link I provided was dead. If you type Palestinian myths on the Bing search it comes out as the first article but I have not been able to go directly into it without going through Bing. That said as if Hudson Jones or Hot Enough or the other jihadi war chair pissantes could care less here are excepts from it:

 

"The Canaanites are historically acknowledged as the first inhabitants of the Land of Israel, before the Hebrews settled there. Indeed, the correct geographic name of the Land of Israel is Canaan, not "Palestine" (a Roman invention, as we will see later). They were composed by different tribes, that may be distinguished in two main groups: the Northern or Coastland Canaanites and the Southern or Mountain Canaanites.
·The Northern Canaanites settled along the coast of the Mediterranean Sea from the southeastern side of the Gulf of Iskenderun to the proximities of the Gulf of Hayfa. Their main cities were Tzur, Tzidon, Gebal (Byblos), Arvad, Ugarit, and are better known in history by their Greek name Phoenicians, but they called themselves "Kana'ana" or "Kinachnu". They did not found any unified kingdom but were organized in self-ruled cities, and were not a warlike people but rather skilful traders, seafarers and builders. Their language was adopted from their Semitic neighbours, the Arameans, and was closely related to Hebrew (not to Arabic!). Phoenicians and Israelites did not need interpreters to understand each other.

They followed the same destiny of ancient Israel and fell under Assyrian rule, then Babylonian, Persian, Macedonian, Seleucian and Roman.

Throughout their history the Phoenicians intermarried with different peoples that dwelled in their land, mainly Greeks and Armenians. During the Islamic expansion they were Arabized, yet, never completely assimilated, and their present-day state is Lebanon, erroneously regarded as an "Arab" country, a label that the Lebanese people reject. Unlike the Arab states, Lebanon has a western democratic-style official name, "Lebanese Republic", without the essential adjective "Arab" that is required in the denominations of every Arab state. The only mention of the term Arabic in the Lebanese constitution refers to the official language of the state, which does not mean that the Lebanese people are Arabs in the same way as the official language of the United States is English but this does not qualify the Americans as British.
 

The so-called Palestinians are not Lebanese (although some of them came from Syrian-occupied Lebanon), therefore they are not Phoenicians (Northern Canaanites). Actually, in Lebanon they are "refugees" and are not identified with the local people.
·The Southern Canaanites dwelled in the mountain region from the Golan southwards, on both sides of the Yarden and along the Mediterranean coast from the Gulf of Hayfa to Yafo, that is the Biblical Canaan. They were composed by various tribes of different stocks: besides the proper Canaanites (Phoenicians), there were Amorites, Hittites and Hurrian peoples like the Yevusites, Hivvites and Horites, all of them assimilated into the Aramean-Canaanite context. They never constituted an unified, organized state but kept within the tribal alliance system.
When the first Hebrews arrived in Canaan they shared the land but did not intermarry, as it was an interdiction for Avraham's family to marry the Canaanites. Nevertheless, eleven of the twelve sons of Yakov married Canaanite women (the other son married an Egyptian), and since then, the Tribes of Israel began to mix with the local inhabitants. After the Exodus, when the Israelites conquered the Land, there were some wars between them and the Canaanites throughout the period of the Sofetim (Judges), and were definitively subdued by King David. By that time, most Canaanites were married to Israelites, others voluntarily accepted Torah becoming Israelites, others joined up in the Israelite or Judahite army. Actually, the Canaanites are seldom mentioned during the Kings' period, usually in reference to their heathen customs introduced among the Israelites, but no longer as a distinguishable people, because they were indeed assimilated into the Israelite nation. When the Assyrians overran the Kingdom of Israel, they did not leave any Canaanite aside, as they had all become Israelites by that time. The same happened when the Babylonians overthrew the Kingdom of Judah.
 

Therefore, the only people that can trace back a lineage to the ancient Canaanites are the Jews, not the Palestinians, as Canaanites did not exist any longer after the 8th century b.c.e. and they were not annihilated but assimilated into the Jewish people.
Conclusion: the Palestinians cannot claim any descent from the ancient Canaanites - if so, why not to pretend also the Syrian "occupied territories", namely, Lebanon? Why do they not speak the language of the ancient Canaanites, that was Hebrew? Because they are NOT Canaanites at all! "

"According to the United Nations weird standards, any person that spent TWO YEARS (!!!) in "Palestine" before 1948, with or without proof, is a "Palestinian", as well as all the descendants of that person. Indeed, the PLO leaders eagerly demand the "right" of all Palestinians to come back to the land that they occupied before June 1967 c.e., but utterly reject to return back to the land where they lived only 50 years before, namely, in 1917 c.e. Why? Because if they agree to do so, they have to settle back in Iraq, Syria, Arabia, Libya, Egypt... and only a handful Arabs would remain in Israel (by Israel is intended the whole Land between the Yarden River and the Mediterranean Sea, plus the Golan region). "

 

 

 

 

 

[Rue]

Here is the other except because I know Hudson Jones and Hot Enough will thoroughly read it. Lol.

 

"Another of the big lies that are being passed off as truth by politics and mass media is the "Palestinian refugees" issue: the allegedly "native" population that were "evicted" by the Israelis. Actually, in 1948 the Arab so-called refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders, who promised to purge the Land of Jews. Almost 70 % of them left without having ever seen a single Israeli soldier.
On the other side, nothing is said about the Jewish refugees that were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms. As soon as the State of Israel was founded, hundreds of thousands of Jews were expelled from every Arab country, mainly Yemen, Iraq and Egypt. The Mizrachim, also known as Babylonian Jews, were living in present-day Iraq since the Babylonian exile in the 6th century b.c.e., the Teymanim or Yemenite Jews were settled in the Sabean Kingdoms long before Roman times. Arabs have expelled them from the lands where those Jews were living for many centuries! The number of Arab so-called refugees that left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000, while the Jewish refugees that were forced out from Arab lands is estimated to be some more than that... Nevertheless, the UN has never demanded from Arab states to receive the Jews that were settled there for many generations and to restore their property and to provide them employment. Meanwhile, the so-called Palestinian "refugees" were intentionally not absorbed or integrated into the Arab countries to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory (Israel's extension is less than 1% of the territory of all Arab lands). Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, the so-called Palestinians are the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own peoples' lands. On the contrary, Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel.
The truth is that the Arab League keeps the Palestinian refugees issue as a political weapon against Israel, with which they continue to fool the United Nations and propagate their perfidious policy. The proofs of such intention are given by Arab sources themselves: At a refugee conference in Homs, Syria, the Arab leaders declared that «any discussion aimed at a solution of the Palestine problem which will not based on ensuring the refugees' right to annihilate Israel will be regarded as desecration of the Arab people and an act of treason». In 1958, former director of UNRWA Ralph Galloway declared angrily while in Jordan that «the Arab states do not want to solve the refugee problem. They want to keep it as an open sore, as an affront to the United Nations, and as a weapon against Israel. Arab leaders do not give a damn whether Arab refugees live or die». King Hussein, the sole Arab leader that directed integration of the Arabs, in 1960 stated: «Since 1948 Arab leaders have approached the Palestine problem in an irresponsible manner.... They have used the Palestine people for selfish political purposes. This is ridiculous and, I could say, even criminal».
Between 1948 and 1967, the Arab flow into the Israeli territories occupied by them (Judea, Samaria and Gaza) was intensified. The UNRWA reported in 1951-52 that «200,000 Arab "refugees" were languishing in Gaza, along with 80,000 original residents who barely made a living before the refugees arrived», notwithstanding, a project to accommodate 10,000 families in the Sinai area (then under Egyptian control) was suspended. How is that the Gaza Strip, having around 80,000 allegedly native residents and twice and half that number of immigrants is only fifty years later overpopulated, with about one and half million of "native people dwelling there since ancestral times"? 
The Arab states are acting a downright discrimination policy against Palestinians, preventing them with all means to achieve any sort of integration in the Arab countries (the same ones from where the Palestinians' grandparents emigrated to the Holy Land). Iraq and Syria were the most appropriate lands for resettlement of the so-called Palestinian refugees. Between 1948 and 1951, more than 120,000 Jews left Iraq to settle in Israel, leaving all of their goods and homes behind them. Most of them were businessmen and artisans, and many were wealthy. Their departure created a large gap in Iraq's economy; in some fields, such as transport, banking and wholesale trades, it reached serious proportions, and there was also a dearth of white collar workers and professional men. Salah Jabr, former dictator of Iraq recognized that «the emigration of 120,000 Jews from Iraq to Israel is beneficial to Iraq and to the Palestinian Arabs because it makes possible the entry into Iraq of a similar number of Arab refugees and their occupation of the Jewish houses there». Nevertheless, Palestinians in Iraq have been "allowed to live in the country but not to assume Iraqi nationality", despite the fact that the country needs manpower and "is encouraging Arab nationals to work and live there by granting them citizenship, with the exception of Palestinians".
Syria was also almost a desert in the early fifties and a very suitable land to give home to the "refugees", not only those already dwelling in Syria but also those in Lebanon and Jordan. In 1949 a newspaper editorial from Damascus stated that «Syria needs not only 100,000 refugees, but five million to work the lands and make them fruitful». Indeed, two years later the Syrian government officially requested that half a million Egyptian agricultural workers be permitted to emigrate to Syria in order to help develop Syrian land which would be transferred to them as their property. The responsible Egyptian authorities have rejected this request on the grounds that Egyptian agriculture is in need of labour as well. Syria was offering land rent free to anyone willing to settle there. It even announced a committee to study would-be settlers' applications. In fact, Syrian authorities began the experiment by moving 25,000 of the refugees in Syria into areas of potential development in the northern parts of the country, but the rigid Arab League position against permanent resettlement prevailed. Palestinians in Syria are still regarded as "refugees" and discriminated as such. The situation in all the remaining Arab states is the same: even though the great majority of the so-called Palestinian refugees has now left the camps for a better life as immigrant workers, they are being denied citizenship in the Arab countries to which they had moved. Regardless of their good behaviour and the many years they are living there, they are still discriminated and denied full integration in society. They must be kept as "refugees" forever, until they may occupy the Land of Israel once that Jews have been expelled or annihilated, that is the ultimate aim of the Arab League policy. Of curse, they would never achieve in doing so, as every time that the Arabs attacked Israel, the Arabs have undergone a shameful defeat.
The current myth is that these Arabs were long established in "Palestine", until the Jews came and "displaced" them. The fact is, that recent Arab immigration into the Land of Israel displaced the Jews. That the massive increase in Arab population was very recent is attested by the ruling of the United Nations: That any Arab who had lived in the Holy Land for two years and then left in 1948 qualifies as a "Palestinian refugee". "

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Hmm some of my posts are being deleted.. interesting.

[Rue]

Oh one last thing. I love the technique of quoting Ben Gurion out of context to suggest, lol, he was not a Zionist, or he was anti Arab or Zionism is evil, etc. Lol. Quotes.

So drum roll here we go its TIME TO PLAY LETS  MAKE QUOTES WITH YOUR HOST HUDSON JONES, brought to you by ISRAELI BONDS and MANISCHEVITZ WINE.

Uh nah I pass.  I prefer watching Judge Judy.

[kactus]

1 hour ago, Rue said:

 you again deflect with name calling. This thread started under the pretense of calling Netanyahu a racist. It didn't take but one post for it to turn into a free for all to accuse all Israelis of being racists and attacking me and anyone who supports the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state of being Israeli and then engaging in anti semitic slurs. 

Lol.

Utter none sense. I made one comment about the documentary on this thread and you have blown it completely out of proportion. My comments are still there for anyone who reads it...I don't give a rat ass if you or anyone else calls me anti semitic for the very reason that you are a hypocrite criticising anyone who disagrees with the policies of Israel and call them anti semite and yet engage in this racist slur against other nations.

 

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For example on your second comment you used the smeer, "typical Zionist here and elsewhere.." that is precisely the kind of negative generalization you have been called out on and makes a mockery of your attempt to suggest you are a reasonable person who recognizes the right of an Israeli Jewish state to exist. In fact it shows your true agenda and you are so God damn stupid you forgot to cloak it-that's what I do-expose you, Marcus, Kactus, whatever name of the moment. It doesn't take much to get you to spew your actual hateful agenda that you start off trying to couch and get this clear, the name calling has not deflected your refusal to state you believe in the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state, its just amplified how you won't and try your best through name calling to avoid stating it while posing as if you did. You were caught red handed in a lie and you are not intelligent to walk away from me on it.

 

You are atypical zionist and I am not retracting one bit. Let there be no misunderstanding. Every word that comes out is exactly what is the doctrine of the fascist government of Bibi vis a vis other countries in the region. You literally label anyone who disagrees with you as Jihadi and expect others to respect your opinion? Who the hell do you think you are?

 

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In regards to your last comment, for someone who wouldn't waste any time, the volume of your responses to me speak for themselves.

I tried to reach you many times on this forum to find a common ground. But the level of hatred and contempt that you hold for arabs is so vile and pathetic that I cannot argue with you rationally. For you it's like my way or highway. Well take a hike. You don't own this forum...

 

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I appreciate in your culture a Jew who talks back appears pompous but your belief we are inferior and can't talk back and should no our place as dhimmi, stateless and second class to you, lol does it look like its making me step and fetch Sahib Bwana Shiekh of the Arabias. Does this Jew look like he's gonna stoop n fetch to your routine?

I appreciate if you keep quite about my culture which you know nothing about and zip it... But to come here dictating what I should say and what I shouldn't frankly will be challenged. As for the rest of the diatribe don't know what to say to you. 

[kactus]

1 hour ago, Rue said:

I will now focus in on what an ignorant hateful racist you are and how you tried to deflect it on Argus.

In regards to the first sentence, you attack me as a Jew. Let's be very clear. You claim because I am a Jew, its in my genes to be racist. This shows very clearly your anti-Semitism.

 

Get that clear I didn't say all jews are racists! I insist on saying you calling arabs as a bunch of herds who look the same as racist. So spare me the anti semite BS.

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Racism is the discriminatory belief that one can define people by their skin colour, nose shape, hair texture, eye shape or other secondary physical characteristics.

In fact it describes a subjective attitude and racism most often leads to the justification of feeling the physical differences justify makes the person with the perceived differences inferior or undesireable.

What you have done is to slur me and all Jews as being born with a built in genetic code to discriminate against others in a racist manner. This is a classic example of slurring al Jews with a negative subjective characteristic.

 

Refer above....

 

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Genetics as we now know does not make one learn to define people by their skin colour, etc. Children when they are born differentiate but don't do what racists do, ad moral or other values of desirability or acceptability to the people they see. They have to learn it later on from their environments, their parents, their role models, and their social conditions.

So your first comment shows nothing more that you hate Jews and smeer us all.

 

 

Same as above...

 

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Next,  your next paragraph shows you do not understand that secondary physical characteristics such as nose shape, hair texture, skin tone, do not make people genetically different and never have. Science has taught us that  beyond reasonable doubt through development of in depth understanding of genetics and our dna and blood types.

 

 

 

No one disputed the secondary physical differences as I have pointed out repeatedly here. Yes, there are differences in looks between people from different countries and that is secondary. This has nothing to do with racism. My point on genetics differences still stands. The gene pool in one group can be different from another as this article highlights: 

"In human genetics, Haplogroup H (Y-DNA), also known as H-L901/M2939 is a Y-chromosome haplogroup. This haplogroup is found at high frequencies among some populations in South Asia, particularly the subclade H1 (H-M69), including its direct descendant H1a (M52). Outside South Asia, H1a1 (H-M82) – which is a direct descendant of H1a (M52) – is found commonly in the paternal lineage of Romani people.

Haplogroup H2 (P96) seems to be primarily European, and very ancient. It was recently found in Linear Pottery culture and Neolithic Iberia^[1][2] and may have entered Europe as long ago during the Epipaleolithic. It was found to have a somewhat higher average concentration in Western Europe, but was also found amongst many ethnicities of the Near East, most notably Armenians and Iranian peoples, as well as in India and other countries of Southern Asia."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_H_(Y-DNA)

 

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What you have done is suggest a Person is not  a Jew. There are of course Persian Jews. Your decision to say there are not any is a political one. You have ben taught a Jew can'tpossibly be equal to you as a Persian, so you spew this desperate attempt to justify your racism and your being brought up to believe Jews are kafir, i.e., dhimmi, i.e., imperfected souls going to hel who can not be the equal of a Muslim. Its what you were taught as a Muslim and its why you don't and can't come on this forum and say you will not recognize as Jew as an equal to a Muslim and having the right to have a Jewish state.

That is your interpretation. Infact in the article I have posted here earlier to Argus anyone can see that Iran does have a jewish community as a minority group. I have never ever said a jew cannot be equal to a Persian. You are accusing me of something I have never said. 

 

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When you use the term "features that are different",  you use it in the context  to then state because Argus says Arabs don't have distinguishable facial features  or "look the same" you and others not I went off on a racist tangent saying he is a racist for saying that. I asked you repeatedly, explain to me how Jews, Turks, Jurds, Persians, look different from one another if Argus is wrong and racist for saying that.

 

There are distinct features in the looks that makes them different. If you have lived in the area you should know. This has nothing to do with racism...There are also genetic differences.

 

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You can't answer. In fact  when you answer now, you engage deliberately in the ambiguous statement "they have features that are different".

 

Yes.....

 

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You dishonestly restate the issue. You can't prove physical features are different. You have been asked over and over to explain the physical differences and you can't. That makes you a joke. Argus is right. We look the same and its eating you up we do. As for our genetic differences you cut the bullshit because you have been caught and exposed.

Your clinginess to hold on to your thoughts is just silly. Go on rue expose me....

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Stating extremist Muslims have a herd mentality is dead on. All extremists do. Like you they suspend logic. They react with such emotion they can't stop from writing their racist thoughts.

Subjective and I would say your views are extremist. Infact I already have...

 

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Go on explain how the genetic difference between a Turk and Jew makes them look different. I have asked you repeatedly to prove it. Go on prove it.

Do some reading...

Whilst there may be similarity in the looks there has been genetic differences.

https://anthropology.net/2008/01/22/genetic-relationships-of-semitic-and-indo-aryan-speaking-groups-in-iran/

https://evolutionistx.wordpress.com/2016/02/19/turkey-not-very-turkic-a-genetic-history-of-the-turkic-peoples/

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0080673

http://www.mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/

 

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You can't because no such proof will ever exist and you sling to your barely couched anti Semitism taught to you and that you cling to.

This is why you cannot be debated because your brain cannot cope with more words than anti semitism, bla bla bla...

 

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Your belief in dhimmitude, Jews as kafir and looking different its all inter-mixed. Your religion was taught to you in a way that depicted we Jews as monkeys to be slaughtered.

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Who the phack do you think you address, some gentile who doesn't understand the Koran or your culture or mine?

And on....

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You want to try again with this bullshit there are no Persian Jews?

What a pathetic thing to say. All Jews came from the geographic region of Persia. Your ancestors and mine trace back to ancestors in Mesopatamia that at one point was linked by land to Africa.

 

Read above...

 

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All you have tried to do is deflect from your own hatred of Jews by trying to depict Argus as hating you.

He could care less and so could I.

 

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What I challenge and he has is your herd mentality-this group psychosis you have bought into that you look different then not just Jews but Arabs. Turks, etc.

Yes, do challenge and I keep challenging you back.

 

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By the way before you write broken sentences asking Altai who calls me a kafir on this forum for help understand something-that was pathetic. Turning to her for help was pathetic, Given the content of her posts what the hell was that supposed to add?

Don't need Altai to help me. Just pointing the fact that even an 18 year old turkish girl knows kurds are persians....

 

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Well of course, your nations have one thing in common with Iraqi Sunnis, y'all hate and have engaged in genocide against Kurds. Good for you.

Hallabja 1988....

 

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Now you want to  deny Iran has exterminated Kurds no different than the Turks or Hussein, save it for another thread where you can try present Iran as a utopia nation with no racism or human rights violations against ethnic groups or religious groups. You don't have the balls to because you know exactly the Iranian racist and anti semitic and fascist intolerant views the Iranian clerical council enforces.

Didn't deny the discrimination. Just saying kurds are not the only ones. There are many things that is wrong with the clerics in Iran but I wouldn't blame all Iranians like you do...

 

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Spare me Tehran Terry, been there done that. You are the very racist you accuse all Israelis and Jews of being and Argus.

Again...Refer above 

 

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As for calling me a racist, lol no I would not hire you. Not unless I wanted a knife jammed in my back while I was working.

 

You have racist views....

 

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No problem, you can file an Ontario Human Rights complaint and have Justin Trudeau be a character witness for you.

I know you don't like Trudeau. He doesn't cut with Israel like Harper did...

 

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I'm gonna go with Norm MacDonald and Gilbert Godfriend. They will tag team.

Jeez! I should have known

[Hudson Jones]

19 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Yes...what part of controlling land, treaty rights, potable water, and other resources are not clear to you ?

The natives of this land are not being treated the same way the Palestinians are being treated by Israelis.

You are being dishonest with your comparison. I can't engage with dishonest people.

[Rue]

1 hour ago, kactus said:

You see the above comment is a exemplary of your tribal mindset thinking everyone else is inferior to you. Knock yourself out. Everytime you bring in Iran to exonerate Israel of its racism and fascistic policies it is thrown back into your face. Bring it on! 

I don't think everyone is inferior to me, I don't shower with everyone to be able to draw such conclusions.

1 hour ago, GostHacked said:

Hmm some of my posts are being deleted.. interesting.

Lol, do you think the Mossad deleted it?

[Rue]

7 minutes ago, Hudson Jones said:

The natives of this land are not being treated the same way the Palestinians are being treated by Israelis.

You are being dishonest with your comparison. I can't engage with dishonest people.

No he never said that. He actually said natives are often treated worse. How dishonest of you to misquote him.

Hey now tell me, how many reservations have you been to. Do you know what a Cree looks like? How about a Micmac or an Ojibiway. Ask Kactus. They look just like Turks and Jews but definitely not Kactus or you right?

[kactus]

2 minutes ago, Rue said:

No he never said that. He actually said natives are often treated worse. How dishonest of you to misquote him.

Hey now tell me, how many reservations have you been to. Do you know what a Cree looks like? How about a Micmac or an Ojibiway. Ask Kactus. They look just like Turks and Jews but definitely not Kactus or you right?

You are asking for it Rue...Leave it....

[Rue]

1 hour ago, kactus said:

Get that clear I didn't say all jews are racists!..

That is your interpretation. Infact in the article I have posted here earlier to Argus anyone can see that Iran does have a jewish community as a minority group. I have never ever said a jew cannot be equal to a Persian. You are accusing me of something I have never said. 

There are distinct features in the looks that makes them different. If you have lived in the area you should know. This has nothing to do with racism...There are also genetic differences.

Your clinginess to hold on to your thoughts is just silly. Go on rue expose me....

And the rant continues....

And the rant continues...

Don't need Altai to help me. Just pointing the fact that even an 18 year old turkish girl knows kurds are persians....

Didn't deny the discrimination. Just saying kurds are not the only ones. There are many things that is wrong with the clerics in Iran but I wouldn't blame all Iranians like you do...

Jeez! I should have known

In regards to your first comment of course you did. You said racism was in my genes. That necessarily means all Jews are racists. If you are going to make anti semitic insults have the balls to not try deny them a post later. Lol

In regards to your second comment you said there were no Persian Jews. Now again its not a post later and you deny you said that.  Your words are there. Trying to deny them the very next post is stupid.

In regards to comment 3, I call you out again as a racist liar. You will not come on this board and state a Jew is equal to a Muslim or Jews have a right to a Jewish state in Israel precisely because you are an anti semitic bigot who has been brought up to believe in dhimmitude. Go on who is stopping you from stating you recognize the right for Israel to be a Jewish state or Jews or equal to Muslims? Your inability to say both makes you a transparent manipulative liar. In fact your inability to admit a Jew is equal to a Muslim is hilarious.

In regards to comment 4, What are the distinct features that make "them" different? Who is "them" and what distinct features do you refer to. I have asked repeatedly and you refuse to state these distinct features-you can't state them because you don't have the balls to come on this forum and list the distinct physical features you refer to. Its like your inability to state a Jew is equal to a Muslim or you recognize the right of Israel to be a Jewish state. You can't state these things because you are someone who has been caught red handed being an anti-Semite and stereotyping now not just Jews but Arabs as having specific looks. Go on spit it out, what are the differenes? Lol this is your what 8th post to me now and you can't respond once to the allegations and claims you made to prove them. Does it look like you have avoided them? Does it look like you have deflected away from your racism and anti Semitism?

In regards to comment 5,  I don't have to expose you, you stand there with your pecker, out of your pants. You might want to put it back in. Its obvious what your shortcomings are. Here l et me explain it simply, every time you respond you refuse to:

1-state you believe Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state and when asked, change the topic and refuse to state this;

2-state Jews and Arabs and Persians and Turks look different, then asked what makes them look different you change the topic and refuse to answer.

In regards to comment 6,  now you want to state Kurds are Persians and not Kurds? Is that where you are at now? Now let's see, do they look different or do they just use the name Kurd and want to become independent of Iran, Iraq and Turkey for  for the hell of it. A Kurd is now a Persian and I should ask a Turk? Lol, a Turk? Again do you think speaking to me like that washes? Are you that racist you think Westerners don't know the difference between Kurds, Turks, Persians, Arabs and Jews? Lol. See the difference between you and me is I do not come on this board as you do trying to play this pathetic game of deflection and talking in circles to pretend I didn't say what I did.

Comment 7, now you admit Iran discriminates against Kurds oh but hey not because they are Persian right?

Lol. Do you even read your responses to me. Hah.

Comment 8 yah you should have known and should know-your refusal to state you believe Israel has the right to be a Jewish state in Israel pre 1967 coupled with your comments about Jews and Zionists makes you a lying anti semite.

Your repeated comments  Arabs, Persians, Jews, etc., look different and now Kurds are Persians and refusing to point out what makes us look different shows you are a gutless racist who alleges physical characteristic differences but then when asked to state them, deflects and runs and hides.

You are a pissante and calling on Altai for help as you did is hilarious. How about instead of hiding behind "her" and having her do your battles jihadi arm chair w with Omaarrior you call me kafir directly.

Lol.

18 year old Turkish girl hah. We call them trannies in Canada when they dress up like that.  Prime Minister Trudeau and Finance Minister Marneau can explain that further to you at the next Liberal gathering with Omar no not Mr. Kadr, Mr. Alleghbra.  Lol. Omar. Its like Rue. Its a very common name. It gives us away.. You don't need to look at our lip size to know our ethnicity.

By the way when you debate, its a good idea you don't quote articles on genetics that back up what I say and directly contradict what you said. Its kind of silly. Its also past stupid for you then to pretend you argued from the get go you were only referring to blood type differences which are invisible to the human eye in one breath and then in the next repeat you racist bullshit that we Jews and Arabs look different.

But hey I like that one about telling me to ask a Turk to tell me a Kurd is a Persian.

 

[Rue]

Hey once we are on the topics of racism and Kactus now calling Kurds Persians and asking me to ask a Turk about them. Turkey, Iran and Iraq have been persecuting and murdering Kurds and denying their heritage for hundreds of years. Uh yah I will go speak to Ghost and Tax me or some neo Nazis about my Jewish identity. Makes sense.

The idiocy that is passed off on this board by the arm chair jihadi wannabees is pathetic.

Kurds and Persians have distinct languages, Kurdish for Kurds, Farsi for Persian.

Their culture, art, religion and completely different.

Kurds come from the indigenous peoples of the Mesopatain plains. They are a people who never lived centrally in one place. Persians on the other hand come from the Aryan peoples and early on centralized in towns/villages/cities.

Their civilizations and histories are  unique.

The current Iranian regime has waged a ruthless war of extermination and expulsion of them on its Northern borders. Iran has had temporary alliances with the Turks in their mutual war against Kurds and trying to exterminate them. Sadaam Hussein of Iraq also tried to exterminate them. Kurds are situated on the top part of Iraq and of course in Turkey. Turkey is currently at war with them.

Ask a Turk what a Kurd is.

Yah next I will ask a dog to explain a cat to moi. 

Hey I know, I'll ask Ghost to explain to me what Judaism is. Lol.

Hey I am gonna get Michael Jackson's daughter to explain to me  what a person from Tonga is. I think she is 18 too.

Edited September 7, 2017 by Rue

[bush_cheney2004]

1 hour ago, Hudson Jones said:

The natives of this land are not being treated the same way the Palestinians are being treated by Israelis.

You are being dishonest with your comparison. I can't engage with dishonest people.

 

Then run away from the discussion, because that's all you can do when faced with the historical and existing reality for "aboriginals" (God, what a term) in Canada.

Palestinians actually have more political power over the West Bank and Gaza than do First Nations on "reserves".

I understand that this comparison is an inconvenient truth, but the entire exercise is to demonstrate that anybody who supports  or lives in the Canadian (or American) "regime" in North America now or in the past has no credibility when criticizing the nation state of Israel, which actually faces existential threats.

Honesty begins at home.

 

Edited September 7, 2017 by bush_cheney2004

[GostHacked]

2 hours ago, Rue said:

 

Lol, do you think the Mossad deleted it?

Now now, don't be stupid.

[kactus]

6 hours ago, GostHacked said:

Hmm some of my posts are being deleted.. interesting.

It's typical of the moderator to take a one sided approach on this topic. He has taken down my post too...

[kactus]

4 hours ago, Rue said:

Hey once we are on the topics of racism and Kactus now calling Kurds Persians and asking me to ask a Turk about them. Turkey, Iran and Iraq have been persecuting and murdering Kurds and denying their heritage for hundreds of years. Uh yah I will go speak to Ghost and Tax me or some neo Nazis about my Jewish identity. Makes sense.

The idiocy that is passed off on this board by the arm chair jihadi wannabees is pathetic.

Kurds and Persians have distinct languages, Kurdish for Kurds, Farsi for Persian.

Their culture, art, religion and completely different.

Kurds come from the indigenous peoples of the Mesopatain plains. They are a people who never lived centrally in one place. Persians on the other hand come from the Aryan peoples and early on centralized in towns/villages/cities.

Their civilizations and histories are  unique.

The current Iranian regime has waged a ruthless war of extermination and expulsion of them on its Northern borders. Iran has had temporary alliances with the Turks in their mutual war against Kurds and trying to exterminate them. Sadaam Hussein of Iraq also tried to exterminate them. Kurds are situated on the top part of Iraq and of course in Turkey. Turkey is currently at war with them.

Ask a Turk what a Kurd is.

Yah next I will ask a dog to explain a cat to moi. 

Hey I know, I'll ask Ghost to explain to me what Judaism is. Lol.

Hey I am gonna get Michael Jackson's daughter to explain to me  what a person from Tonga is. I think she is 18 too.

Too bad my post is taken down...I am not gonna waste any more time on you to differentiate between a PJAK Kurd and and a veteran. Iran is a huge country and diverse in different ethnicities. Ofcourse any country with such a vast diversity of ethnicities will face some challenges but it is doing alot better than the neighbouring countries. Israel is failing miserably to sort out its own problems with their arab semite cousins. It is reach from them to preach others about massacres....

 

Whilst Kurds are massacred in other regions they are treated alot better in Iran. Your propagandist machine is working hard to create division between different factions but it hasn't worked just like when your beloved Bibi made the attempt to bribe Iranian jews to move to Israel...

I am glad that you finally accepted what Saddam did to Kurds in halabja but couldn't Just have the brevity to say they were Iranians....

I am surprised the so called moderator let's you get away with name callings. It's ok...Zionism is new Neo Nazism.

 

Edited September 8, 2017 by kactus

[Hudson Jones]

5 hours ago, Rue said:

No he never said that. He actually said natives are often treated worse. How dishonest of you to misquote him.

Hey now tell me, how many reservations have you been to. Do you know what a Cree looks like? How about a Micmac or an Ojibiway. Ask Kactus. They look just like Turks and Jews but definitely not Kactus or you right?

Calm yourself down child. I will respond to your questions and comments, once you're able to stop communicating like a total jackass.

Edited September 8, 2017 by Hudson Jones