ZenOps Posted June 26, 2017 Report Posted June 26, 2017 If you stuck a pin in every nation that the US and NATO have "intervened" upon, you will find nearly every nation being traditionally non-white. By definition, when the US drops millions of tons of bombs twice every decade or so - they are not allowed to do it on the majority of traditionally "white" nations who pay up to 2% of their GDP to make sure their nation is not bombed, and the money only goes to toward fighting outside their borders. Since Russia has the nuke, they also never get bombs dropped on them. That really only leaves non-white nations that this massive military spending goes toward. The US/NATO took a completely standoff approach to Crimea, and I can imagine no bombs will hit Ukraine. The main argument that NATO was formed to stop "Communist Russia" does not seem valid, as Putin was basically handed Crimea on a plate. Is there a reason to keep NATO other than to prevent the US from invading places like Greece (which in defaulting on international payments of bonds, basically nullified their payments into NATO since the start) Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 Is OPEC anti-white? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, ZenOps said: If you stuck a pin in every nation that the US and NATO have "intervened" upon, you will find nearly every nation being traditionally non-white. Premise is false...see these NATO interventions: Operation Joint Guard, Bosnia and Herzegovina 1992 Operation Allied Force, Kosovo-Montenegro-Serbia 1999 The U.S. bombed Germany and Italy without pity during WW2....bombs away !! Edited June 27, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
ZenOps Posted June 28, 2017 Author Report Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) Still, its nothing compared to the million tons of conventional bombs the US dropped on Vietnam, Korea, and any number of middle eastern states. I mean, when they talk about bombing European nations they talk about thousands of deaths. When they talk about Vietnam and North Korea, its millions. NATO seems to be roughly 20 to 1,000x more likely to kill a non-white, the numbers are staggering. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/05/trump-nato-article-five-israel-saudi-arabia/528393/ They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Do you think Trump likes NATO. Edited June 28, 2017 by ZenOps Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, ZenOps said: Still, its nothing compared to the million tons of conventional bombs the US dropped on Vietnam, Korea, and any number of middle eastern states. Yes it is....the Allies used more than 3,000,000 tons of TNT equivalent bombs during WW2, including atomic bombs against Japan. "Non-white" is not so clearly defined in many parts of the world compared to Canada's racist definitions, especially in the ME. The "non-white" premise is also flawed when considering that throughout the Cold War, U.S. and allied (NATO) strategic forces were quite ready to bomb the Soviet Union (including Eastern Bloc nations), and the Russian Federation today. Civilian and combatant deaths due to military bombing campaigns have been reduced by an order of magnitude because of target validation and precision guided munitions. There are far more civilian deaths now due to civil/sectarian war/violence compared to NATO bombing. As for NATO, President Trump, just like many former U.S. presidents, has expressed disdain for NATO deadbeats. Edited June 28, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: As for NATO, President Trump, just like many former U.S. presidents, has expressed disdain for NATO deadbeats. We're "deadbeats" because we don't relish the idea of glorifying over the # of bombs we have dropped on the world, as some Americans do. I have my doubts if your hero "the donald" even knows how to spell NATO Quote
Rue Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 On 2017-06-26 at 7:51 PM, ZenOps said: If you stuck a pin in every nation that the US and NATO have "intervened" upon, you will find nearly every nation being traditionally non-white. By definition, when the US drops millions of tons of bombs twice every decade or so - they are not allowed to do it on the majority of traditionally "white" nations who pay up to 2% of their GDP to make sure their nation is not bombed, and the money only goes to toward fighting outside their borders. Since Russia has the nuke, they also never get bombs dropped on them. That really only leaves non-white nations that this massive military spending goes toward. The US/NATO took a completely standoff approach to Crimea, and I can imagine no bombs will hit Ukraine. The main argument that NATO was formed to stop "Communist Russia" does not seem valid, as Putin was basically handed Crimea on a plate. Is there a reason to keep NATO other than to prevent the US from invading places like Greece (which in defaulting on international payments of bonds, basically nullified their payments into NATO since the start) Interesting because using your logic Russia, and a hell of a lot of other countries are white supremacist yet you don't mention them only the US as if its the only one on the planet and you see oblivious to Canada's history with its native people. You also don't mention North Korea is Korean supremacist, Iran I Persian supremacist, China is Chinese supremacist, how far do you want to go with your analogy hmm or is it just a lamed excuse for pissing on the US using a double standard you won't use on other countries. Get real. Putin is white. By the way remember Hitler? Maybe you should look him up. The US had a war against him with other countries. Hitler was white. Yah lily white. Quote
Rue Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) On 2017-06-28 at 6:36 AM, Omni said: We're "deadbeats" because we don't relish the idea of glorifying over the # of bombs we have dropped on the world, as some Americans do. I have my doubts if your hero "the donald" even knows how to spell NATO Canada's refusal to properly maintain armed forces and fluff off that responsibility on US taxpayers has nothing to do with bombing non whites or whites for that matter. Your leftist selectivity has no limit to the absurdity it spews. Canada has needed a navy to protect its coastal fisheries. Because it chose to in effect render the navy inoperable since and after WW2 all our fish stocks were depleted and permanently ruined by over-fishing. Our coastal areas are also a joke in preventing illegal drugs from coming in or enforcing sovereignty up North. Our capacity to rescue people at sea has been seriously compromised for over 30 years. We have placed soldiers in harm's way and even killed them with the poor equipment because of under-funding. In your world China. Russia, Iran, North Korea, should all be armed to the teeth but hey not Canada it can live in a fantasy world where only the US is to be questioned and for that matter we assume the US only has armed forces to bomb non white people The US Navy continues to save thousands of non Americans at sea, i.e., non whites every year. But hey they only bomb non whites. The terrorists they go after, oh hey its non white bombing. Such crappola. Run along Hanoi Jane. Regards, Joe. That's GI Joe to you. Edited June 29, 2017 by Rue Quote
Omni Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 19 minutes ago, Rue said: Such crappola What sent you off on this race tangent I wonder. Quote
Rue Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 13 hours ago, Omni said: What sent you off on this race tangent I wonder. I did not go off on any race tangent. In fact I responded directly to the accusation by the thread starter. Some of us actually respond to the thread topic. Try it. Quote
-TSS- Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 Since the break-up of the eastern bloc also NATO has become obsolete and it has had to reinvent a reason for its very existence. Quote
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