The truth about Saudi-backed traitors Harper and Trudeau!

[GritBusters]

Trudeau is a garbage tier Prime Minister, but it was Harper that made Canada complicit in the exportation of terrorism and Islamic extremism through his government's authorizing an exponential increase in weapons sales to Saudi Arabia and the Al-Saud Crime Family.

The more we help Riyadh and Tehran consolidate power in the Middle East, the more we empower those who seek to radicalize ordinary Muslims into terrorists and backers of terrrorism and the more refugees will come here because nobody reasonable, Muslim or otherwise, wants to be dhimmi to the far-right Wahabbi wackos running Saudi Arabia and Daesh.

There were far fewer refugees coming out of the Middle East before the United States, the United Kingdom, and the war profiteers started making a mess out of Iraq, Libya, and Syria.

Any Iraqi Christian will gladly tell you that Al-Sistani's goons are 1,000,000 times worse than Saddam and that, outside of Kurdistan, "democracy" in Iraq is just a facade for Shiite chauvinism.

If we want to stem the tide of refugees, it's time to start taking out the Wahhabi trash!

Edited May 2, 2017 by GritBusters

[Argus]

Your argument is patently silly. I don't think much of the Sauds either, but my positions are generally influenced by something you seem to have ignored: realism.

Nothing Canada does is going to influence the behaviour of Saudi Arabia. There are nations lined up and waiting to sell them weapons if we pull back. Nobody will give a damn except the people whose jobs depend on the sales.

What we could and should do is bar Saudi money from coming here to help fund religious groups, build mosques, or pay for imams. We should not allow them any influence in this country, and should bar the future immigration of anyone who subscribes to the Wahabi school of Islam.

Edited May 2, 2017 by Argus

[Omni]

1 minute ago, Argus said:

There are nations lined up and waiting to sell them weapons if we pull back. Nobody will give a damn except the people whose jobs depend on the sales.

Oh and maybe the people who will be killed by them. Of course they will likely be brown what the hey!

[Argus]

4 minutes ago, Omni said:

Oh and maybe the people who will be killed by them. Of course they will likely be brown what the hey!

You think they'll feel better if they're killed by some other kind of armored vehicle instead? Mind you, that isn't what would happen. If Canada got on its high horse and refused to sell these LAVs to the Saudis General Dynamics would shrug and move the production south to one of its American plants, and then sell them anyway.

Of course, social justice warriors love making grand gestures that demonstrate how noble and moral they are, even if the gesture has zero impact - at least when someone else has to pay for them.

Edited May 2, 2017 by Argus

[Omni]

7 minutes ago, Argus said:

You think they'll feel better if they're killed by some other kind of armored vehicle instead? Mind you, that isn't what would happen. If Canada got on its high horse and refused to sell these LAVs to the Saudis General Dynamics would shrug and move the production south to one of its American plants, and then sell them anyway.

Of course, social justice warriors love making grand gestures that demonstrate how noble and moral they are, even if the gesture has zero impact - at least when someone else has to pay for them.

So maybe after Kim comes for dinner at the WH Trump can sell him some of that nerve gas they are not supposed to use any more and you'd be fine with that. Gotcha.

[DogOnPorch]

The US gave-up nerve agents during the Nixon administration....long, long ago.

[bush_cheney2004]

10 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

The US gave-up nerve agents during the Nixon administration....long, long ago.

 

Yes....too difficult to use effectively with prevailing weather conditions and precursor storage was a pain.   Thousands of sheep died in one incident.

Easier to just nuke 'em !

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Yes....too difficult to use effectively with prevailing weather conditions and precursor storage was a pain.   Thousands of sheep died in one incident.

Easier to just nuke 'em !

Or napalm....much more user friendly.

Kingsford...the briquet of choice!

[Omni]

17 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

The US gave-up nerve agents during the Nixon administration....long, long ago.

They agreed not to use it or produce it, but they still have it.

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Omni said:

They agreed not to use it or produce it, but they still have it.

Nope

[Omni]

Just now, DogOnPorch said:

Nope

Sorry, but yep.

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Omni said:

Sorry, but yep.

 

Not according to my sources...but yours? Well...why not, eh?

Meanwhile....Johnston Atoll in the Pacific...look 'er up.

[Omni]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Not according to my sources...but yours? Well...why not, eh?

Meanwhile....Johnston Atoll in the Pacific...look 'er up.

I'm sure your polls tell you what you want to hear. Do you think the US is going to blab that kind of stuff all over Bretibart though?

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Omni said:

I'm sure your polls tell you what you want to hear. Do you think the US is going to blab that kind of stuff all over Bretibart though?

 

You're free to subscribe to the likes of Briebart. You'll still be wrong.

[Omni]

2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

You're free to subscribe to the likes of Briebart. You'll still be wrong.

I wouldn't give Breitbart the time of day but keep me posted OK.

[Omni]

11 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Not according to my sources...but yours? Well...why not, eh?

Meanwhile....Johnston Atoll in the Pacific...look 'er up.

Pueblo Colorado, Bluegrass Kentucky. Look 'er up.

[DogOnPorch]

22 minutes ago, Omni said:

I wouldn't give Breitbart the time of day but keep me posted OK.

 

You're the one dealing in conspiracies. US boogie men are your big issue when the real dealers of today's sarin are elsewhere. Perhaps post a picture of Rummie shaking hands with Saddam way back to prove it.

16 minutes ago, Omni said:

Pueblo Colorado, Bluegrass Kentucky. Look 'er up.

Chemical weapons destruction facilities on the mainland. However, VX doesn't just burn-up in an incinerator being designed to resist fire. That took Johnston Island with its special processing units. So if your theory is true, whatever precursors that still might exist for sarin in Kentucky and Colorado were shipped to Assad, eh?

What does the US get out of this apparent use of WMDs

Edited May 2, 2017 by DogOnPorch

[DogOnPorch]

1 hour ago, Argus said:

Your argument is patently silly. I don't think much of the Sauds either, but my positions are generally influenced by something you seem to have ignored: realism.

Nothing Canada does is going to influence the behaviour of Saudi Arabia. There are nations lined up and waiting to sell them weapons if we pull back. Nobody will give a damn except the people whose jobs depend on the sales.

What we could and should do is bar Saudi money from coming here to help fund religious groups, build mosques, or pay for imams. We should not allow them any influence in this country, and should bar the future immigration of anyone who subscribes to the Wahabi school of Islam.

Win-win as far as I can see.

Brutal House of Saud butchering equally brutal ISIS (et al) in Yemen. Anybody need satellite recon info???

[Omni]

1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

You're the one dealing in conspiracies. US boogie men are your big issue when the real dealers of today's sarin are elsewhere. Perhaps post a picture of Rummie shaking hands with Saddam way back to prove it.

Chemical weapons destruction facilities on the mainland. However, VX doesn't just burn-up in an incinerator being designed to resist fire. That took Johnston Island with its special processing units. So if your theory is true, whatever precursors that still might exist for sarin in Kentucky and Colorado were shipped to Assad, eh?

What does the US get out of this apparent use of WMDs

Nope, they're still there. Common sense should tell you where Assad got his. Even Breitbart could probably explain that to you.

[DogOnPorch]

I see. So the US built a fake facility on Johnston Atoll and rather than destroy its stocks of nerve agents squirreled them away to give to tinpot dictators as needed.

Damn that Rumsfeld.

 

[GostHacked]

2 hours ago, Argus said:

You think they'll feel better if they're killed by some other kind of armored vehicle instead? Mind you, that isn't what would happen. If Canada got on its high horse and refused to sell these LAVs to the Saudis General Dynamics would shrug and move the production south to one of its American plants, and then sell them anyway.

Of course, social justice warriors love making grand gestures that demonstrate how noble and moral they are, even if the gesture has zero impact - at least when someone else has to pay for them.

So it's better we build the weapons of death to sell to tyrannical governments that they use to oppress their people and others?

Edited May 3, 2017 by GostHacked

[DogOnPorch]

LAVs aren't THAT good and they're meat for today's ATGMs.

 

[GostHacked]

9 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

LAVs aren't THAT good and they're meat for today's ATGMs.

 

Right, and give a Palestinian a knife and the crowd goes ape shit.

[DogOnPorch]

6 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

Right, and give a Palestinian a knife and the crowd goes ape shit.

 

? Non sequitur.

The point remains...there'd be no way in Hell I'd be in a LAV in a battlefield full of Kornet 9M133s. Which pretty much describes any battlefield over there. A ditch sounds safer.

[Moonlight Graham]

3 hours ago, Argus said:

Nothing Canada does is going to influence the behaviour of Saudi Arabia. There are nations lined up and waiting to sell them weapons if we pull back. Nobody will give a damn except the people whose jobs depend on the sales.

Well, if the UN actually worked properly and we weren't highly dependent on good relations with SA because of the oil they control, what we could do is have all major power nations come together and say "Saudis are jerks" and agree to not sell them weapons, and when a rogue country sells them weapons all the powers could slap sanctions on that country.

But we don't live in that reality.