Jewish Center Bomb Threat Suspect Is Arrested in Israel

[Hudson Jones]

It turns out that it was an Israeli-American teenager, living in Israel who had sent at least 100 bomb threats to Jewish Centres around the world.

His lawyer says it's because of a tumor.

Link

 

[Rue]

Zionist cancer. It needs to be wiped out right Hudson? Oh wait. If you wiped it out they would have ot arrested this  person.

What irony. You jump to report the story and you don't even see the irony in it. Zippity zappity over you head again,

[H10]

Meh, if you look hard enough you'll find anything, there are lots of self hating jews, especially european self hating jews because of the whole discrimination thing.  After all, when all you hear is how jews are worthless, even some jews start to believe it.

[OftenWrong]

2 minutes ago, hernanday said:

Meh, if you look hard enough you'll find anything, there are lots of self hating jews, especially european self hating jews because of the whole discrimination thing.  After all, when all you hear is how jews are worthless, even some jews start to believe it.

Or he simply wasn't getting any.

[hot enough]

2 hours ago, Rue said:

Zionist cancer. It needs to be wiped out right Hudson? Oh wait. If you wiped it out they would have ot arrested this  person.

What irony. You jump to report the story and you don't even see the irony in it. Zippity zappity over you head again,

What a leap of illogic!

[DogOnPorch]

Islam is Peace...and this proves it.

[hot enough]

14 hours ago, hernanday said:

Meh, if you look hard enough you'll find anything, there are lots of self hating jews, especially european self hating jews because of the whole discrimination thing.  After all, when all you hear is how jews are worthless, even some jews start to believe it.

Can we put this silly meme to rest once and for all? It's a canard, another old wives tale, a lie, a fib, a falsehood, a falsity, a whopper, a ... .

Jewish Self-Hatred : Myth or Reality ?

Antony Lerman contextualises the time-worn accusation

But does ‘Jewish self-hatred’ exist?

Those who level the charge obviously have no doubts. So much so that it’s deployed as the ‘killer fact’: to be called a self-hating Jew explains everything. No more need be said. Self-hatred means being a traitor to your race, an Uncle Tom, siding with the enemy, willing the destruction of your own people. In Jewish Self-Hatred: Anti-Semitism and the Hidden Language of the Jews, Sander L. Gilman says it’s ‘a term interchangeable with “Jewish anti-Judaism” or “Jewish anti-Semitism”’.

http://jewishquarterly.org/issuearchive/article2366.html?articleid=432

[GostHacked]

I find it interesting that the media used those attacks and attempted to pin it on Muslims and Islam. Also note that it was used as a new rising wave of anti-semitism across North America. Don't tell me there is no f'n agenda here.

Muslims, Muslims, Muslims, Muslims ...  oh wait it was a Jewish Israeli?

 

[Rue]

15 hours ago, hernanday said:

Meh, if you look hard enough you'll find anything, there are lots of self hating jews, especially european self hating jews because of the whole discrimination thing.  After all, when all you hear is how jews are worthless, even some jews start to believe it.

True. In this case its a horrible story for Jews and I appreciate your tolerant words. The guy is obviously a nut case. The point I was making which had nothing to do with you is that Hudson Jones once referred to Zionism as a cancer that needs to be wiped out. Having lived and volunteered in Israel and being a Zionist taught as an essential part of Zionism to respect and coexist with Palestinians and all Muslims as equal partners, I took his words to be encouraging  genocide of Jews for believing we have a right to a nation no different than  Muslims or Christians or for that matter different from the concept Marcus Garvey championed for blacks.

The point is many anti Israelis on this board have accused Israel and Zionists of engaging in false flag operations and deliberate conspiracies to get people to hate Jews.

Or they have tried to suggest we Zionists think we hate Arabs, are racist, etc. Zionists come in every skin colour and Israelis and Jews range from coal black to albino white.

Some of our oldest Jews come from Africa outside the Felashie areas. They are ancient African Jews.

I am glad the Israeli government was able to catch this person and it shows they do not deal with such threats by anyone, Jewish, Muslim, Christian in their country any different nor should they.

That was my point and believe me Hudson Jones is not on this thread because he supports Israel's right to exist as a Jewish nation or because it acted effectively to catch this person.

The reference to tumour is that this individual has a brain tumour. It may be the reason he acted as he did. It may not be. Who knows. The point is if this guy did what he did because he is an extremist in religious or other ideology its unacceptable. No extremism that hurts innocent people is acceptable.

I actually appreciated your tolerant tone. I give you a hard time on segregation but I am equal to praise people I challenge when I should.

[Rue]

9 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

I find it interesting that the media used those attacks and attempted to pin it on Muslims and Islam. Also note that it was used as a new rising wave of anti-semitism across North America. Don't tell me there is no f'n agenda here.

Muslims, Muslims, Muslims, Muslims ...  oh wait it was a Jewish Israeli?

 

I call absolute bull sheeyat, You are using this incident to try suggest anti-Semitism is not legitimate and there is a world Jewish conspiracy.

Again your true agenda shows bright and clear. Now go on, provide the media articles you claim used "attacks to pin it on Muslims and Islam".

Go on show why you are engaging in such pathetic exploitation of terrorism to suit your anti Jewish agenda.

Spit it out.

Show where the media ever accused a Muslim of committing a crime a Jew did-spit it out. Stop engaging in passive aggressive accusations. Spit it out because you don't speak for Muslims or Jews. In fact when this person was phoning his threats, Muslims stood outside Jewish centres to show solidarity. You think they are angry at Jews now for this?

You think the Muslims who showed up at synagogues to help put back over-turned head stones don't know what they were doing?

You think Muslims and Jews here in Toronto have not supported each other when each other's places of worship were vandalized. Well?

You don't speak for Jews or Muslims or Christians just yourself. The Muslims, Christians and Jews that I know and who care about these stories do not want anyone of any religion using their religion or any religion to hate and hurt.

You use it to advance a pathetic hateful agenda.

Stop posing as if you represent Muslims you don't.

[Rue]

13 hours ago, hot enough said:

What a leap of illogic!

This man came on this forum long before you posed here with your agenda claiming Zionism was a cancer needing to be wiped out. He knew exactly what I was referring to. Go on read Ghost Hacked's response. This thread is designed to invite insults as Jews and undermine accusations of anti-Semitism.

Welcome to the thread on cue.

[hot enough]

10 minutes ago, Rue said:

This man came on this forum long before you posed here with your agenda claiming Zionism was a cancer needing to be wiped out.

So what do you do - you double down on your illogic. Congratulations, Rue!

[GostHacked]

11 minutes ago, Rue said:

I call absolute bull sheeyat, You are using this incident to try suggest anti-Semitism is not legitimate and there is a world Jewish conspiracy.

Again your true agenda shows bright and clear. Now go on, provide the media articles you claim used "attacks to pin it on Muslims and Islam".

Go on show why you are engaging in such pathetic exploitation of terrorism to suit your anti Jewish agenda.

Spit it out.

Show where the media ever accused a Muslim of committing a crime a Jew did-spit it out. Stop engaging in passive aggressive accusations. Spit it out because you don't speak for Muslims or Jews. In fact when this person was phoning his threats, Muslims stood outside Jewish centres to show solidarity. You think they are angry at Jews now for this?

You think the Muslims who showed up at synagogues to help put back over-turned head stones don't know what they were doing?

You think Muslims and Jews here in Toronto have not supported each other when each other's places of worship were vandalized. Well?

You don't speak for Jews or Muslims or Christians just yourself. The Muslims, Christians and Jews that I know and who care about these stories do not want anyone of any religion using their religion or any religion to hate and hurt.

You use it to advance a pathetic hateful agenda.

Stop posing as if you represent Muslims you don't.

Another crappy projection.  Never have I said I represent Muslims in any way. I represent me and that's it. Stop your stupid projections. Grow up.

I am not saying it was a conspiracy. The media now knows the real source and should be making a shit-tonne of retractions on their past reports blaming Muslims and using it as an example of rising antisemitism. 

Even your examples show that Jews and Muslims in many places are standing together, so that almost seems to go against the notion of there being a rise of antisemitism. 

 

I don't hate Jews or Muslims, however I don't really care for your stupid projections on what I really think. I'll tell you what I really think.

[Rue]

11 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

 

Ghost Hack you stated: "Another crappy projection.  Never have I said I represent Muslims in any way." You also stated:" I don't really care for your stupid projections on what I really think. I'll tell you what I really think."

Well you clearly care or you wouldn't respond. As well your words speaking for Muslims are there for all to see and I quote:

"I find it interesting that the media used those attacks and attempted to pin it on Muslims and Islam......Muslims, Muslims, Muslims, Muslims ...  oh wait it was a Jewish Israeli? "

You state to me "I am not saying it was a conspiracy." Then in the very next sentence denying you advanced a conspiracy, you again advance your conspiracy that the media has falsely accused Muslims of being anti semites, with  these accusatory words of media conspiracy...." The media now knows the real source and should be making a shit-tonne of retractions on their past reports blaming Muslims and using it as an example of rising antisemitism."

Go on provide the alleged false allegations by the media. Provide them. You have advanced for all to see a media conspiracy theory that falsely accuses the media of accusing Muslims of being anti-semites because of what this man did. Provre it. Where is your proof? You have none. You again flog your theory than anti-Semitism does not exist and is a false allegation. You've done it over and over again on this forum and when you are asked to provide the example of the false allegation, you never ever provide one because you can't and once again you made an accusation of false anti-Semitic accusations but can't show them and that is why I again call you out as a person with a bigoted agenda.

Then you make an even more ridiculous statement and you state:

"Even your examples show that Jews and Muslims in many places are standing together, so that almost seems to go against the notion of there being a rise of antisemitism. "

No my point was that no Jew was falsely accusing Muslims of anti-Semitism for the threats against Jewish centres and in fact were very aware of how moderate Muslims were in fact coming out just as Jews have when Mosques have been vandalized to support us. You try pit us against one another with your vile accusations.

More to the point the fact that Jews, Muslims, Christians and people of all faiths in such situations stand together which is my point, you think it appropriate to play Muslims as victims in this matter which is a complete crock. Muslims are no more victims than Jews are when a Muslim or a Jew acts like an idiot. That is the point. We have choices to stand up and confront the idiocy or remain silent to it thank you very much and we do not need someone outside our faiths like you agitating to try turn us on one another which is what you have failed at doing.

More to the point the fact that we stand together united against idiots, does not mean there hasn't been a rise of anti-Semitism or for that matter a rise of anti-Muslim feelings. What a stupid thing to say.

When the media has talked about a rise in anti-Semitism it has not referred to these incidents alone as the reason for the rise in anti-Semitism. I accuse you of deliberately and falsely accusing the press of saying something it never did. Show me one article by the press blaming Muslims for the phone threats. Go on.

When a Muslim Imam has been quoted as saying anti-Semitic things in his Mosque that is a fact not made up. It should be condoned and many Muslims are remaining silent. The damn Prime Minister, the Member of Parliament who passed the motion on Islamophobia and Omar Alaghbra where were they when the Imam I n Quebec spoke hateful words? Well? For people concerned about anti-religious comments and claiming their motion did not only pertain to hatred about the Muslim religion where have they been? WWll? Where has one member of the damn government been as Imams spew anti-Semitism in their Mosques? Where have you been?

I tell you where I have been. I have been with moderate Muslims such as Amidyyah who fled to this country to escape radical Islam-the very Islam Omar Alaghbra, the MP who introduced the motion and Trudeau will not speak out against. Where have you been.

Go on finish your passive aggressive smear. Prove anti-Semitism does not exist in Canada. Finish it. Prove the media invented it.

You said,

"I don't hate Jews or Muslims, .."

I think you do. I think you use both of us for your agenda which is to incite hatred against Jews and prop Muslims as victims of false accusations of anti-Semitism to advance your anti-Jewish agenda. You insult Muslims. You use them. You think they are all stupid and can be stereotyped as victims because Jews claim there has been anti-Semitic attacks. You know nothing abou us. The same B'Nai B'rith that has accused that Imam of anti-Semitism for his words, is the same organization that is defended by Muslim groups and stands by them with Christian groups when any of them are vandalized are targeted by hatred

You play Muslims against Jews. Clearly.

Your attempt to smeer the media is repulsive. The media did not falsely accuse anyone of anti Semitism. The source of anti-Semitism rates comes from human rights groups:

http://freebeacon.com/issues/study-anti-semitism-skyrockets-in-canada/

Now I am going to say this loud and clear as I have said many times. We need to call out anyone of any religion when they use that religion to promote hatred. If a Mullah in his speeches in a Mosque spews hateful comments about Jews he should be called out no differently than if a Rabbiah, Priest or Reverend or Huindu Priest or Siekh learned one did it.

When terrorism occurs if the terrorist did so because of his extremist Muslim religious beliefs its relevant for cause and effect and in understanding why it happened just as its important to find out if a brain tumour or some other reason is behind the motives.

No its not right to blame all Muslim people for the act of Muslim terrorists but it is necessary to challenge Muslim extremism otherwise Muslim moderates will give up.

That is my point. We minorities like Jews and Muslims or blacks or gays or what-ever we do not need people like you to tell us when we are attacked or hated. We know damn well. Your superiority complex and bwana attitude is sickening talking to me and Muslims as if we are savages who don' know any b etter about hatred spewed against us.

Step off your bwana podium and ditch the pith helmet Rudyard Kilping I aint your Sahib nor are any other Muslims or Jews or Christians who don't agree with your se;lective biases.

I don't falsely accuse Muslims of hating me or vice versa. They have the right to be concerned about people who stereotype them all as bad jjust as I por Christians or any other group does when it happens to us.

Stop using such tragedies for political purposes to incite divisive hatred between people. Let Hudson Jones do his own attacks on Zionist tumours.

 

 

 

 

 

[H10]

9 hours ago, Rue said:

True. In this case its a horrible story for Jews and I appreciate your tolerant words. The guy is obviously a nut case. The point I was making which had nothing to do with you is that Hudson Jones once referred to Zionism as a cancer that needs to be wiped out. Having lived and volunteered in Israel and being a Zionist taught as an essential part of Zionism to respect and coexist with Palestinians and all Muslims as equal partners, I took his words to be encouraging  genocide of Jews for believing we have a right to a nation no different than  Muslims or Christians or for that matter different from the concept Marcus Garvey championed for blacks.

The point is many anti Israelis on this board have accused Israel and Zionists of engaging in false flag operations and deliberate conspiracies to get people to hate Jews.

Or they have tried to suggest we Zionists think we hate Arabs, are racist, etc. Zionists come in every skin colour and Israelis and Jews range from coal black to albino white.

Some of our oldest Jews come from Africa outside the Felashie areas. They are ancient African Jews.

I am glad the Israeli government was able to catch this person and it shows they do not deal with such threats by anyone, Jewish, Muslim, Christian in their country any different nor should they.

That was my point and believe me Hudson Jones is not on this thread because he supports Israel's right to exist as a Jewish nation or because it acted effectively to catch this person.

The reference to tumour is that this individual has a brain tumour. It may be the reason he acted as he did. It may not be. Who knows. The point is if this guy did what he did because he is an extremist in religious or other ideology its unacceptable. No extremism that hurts innocent people is acceptable.

I actually appreciated your tolerant tone. I give you a hard time on segregation but I am equal to praise people I challenge when I should.

Its hypocritical to say people having their own schools is segregation but having their own nations is a right.

[hot enough]

21 hours ago, Rue said:

You play Muslims against Jews. Clearly.

Attempting to unbundle another morass of half truths, distortions, some measures of truth, distorted, is a job for someone with way more patience than I. 

The entire state of Israel plays "Muslims against Jews", plays untold numbers of "bad guys" against Jews. Yes there are some actual bad guys but that includes the government of Israel. 

Pithy, you are not, Rue.

Edited March 25, 2017 by hot enough

[Rue]

22 hours ago, hot enough said:

So what do you do - you double down on your illogic. Congratulations, Rue!

Because you do not agree with what I say does not make it logical or illogical. However to suggest what I have said is illogical, is illogical.

Guess that went over your head too. Listen you want to defend Hudson Jones on this forum knock yourself out. Better still join in with Porch. The attemot though to spin this issue to turn Muslims into victims or portray anti-Semitism as not genuine, speaks for itself.

[Rue]

51 minutes ago, hot enough said:

Attempting to unbundle another morass of half truths, distortions, some measures of truth, distorted, is a job for someone with way more patience than I. 

The entire state of Israel plays "Muslims against Jews", plays untold numbers of "bad guys" against Jews. Yes there are some actual bad guys but that includes the government of Israel. 

Pithy, you are not, Rue.

You spew out a subjective negative stereotype you have no proof of and has nothing to do with the thread subject. You show your agenda is to use this thread to piss on Israelis for being Israeli. Not only is it illogical but it showcases your agenda. Now run along and Jew bait someone else. Do I look like you are going to bait me? Lol/

[hot enough]

8 minutes ago, Rue said:

The attemot though to spin this issue to turn Muslims into victims

Muslims have been victims, the victims of illegal attacks on their countries, which far outweigh any attacks on the western illegal invaders.

 

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or portray anti-Semitism as not genuine, speaks for itself.

It doesn't help your case to always be crying wolf or running around screaming, "the sky is falling, the sky is falling". Why do you keep repeating this self-delusion, above?

[hot enough]

10 minutes ago, Rue said:

You show your agenda is to use this thread to piss on Israelis for being Israeli.

What do you not understand by the STATE of Israel?

[Rue]

13 hours ago, hernanday said:

Its hypocritical to say people having their own schools is segregation but having their own nations is a right.

No not at all and let's not change the thread topic. I will try keep this brief and suggest if you want to start yet another thread on rationalizing segregated classes do so under the appropriate thread.

The fact that Britain is an Anglican nation does not mean its schools only can be Anglican.

The segregation you propose is based on the categorization of people by skin colour.

The fact a country is Jewish, Christian, Muslim, is one thing. The fact it might segregate its schools based on skin colour, religion, political belief would be another.

In a perfect world there would have been no need for Zionism and Israel. It came about as a last resort existential response because Jews were discriminated in the Muslima nd Christian worlds. Had Christian and Muslim nations not discriminated against, massacered and defined us Jews as Christ killers, infidels, khafir, we of course would have never had to go out and create a nation.

That said in Canada it is a crock to argue blacks should be segregated from whites in schools because this will be good for their self esteem. I disagree with you the same reason I disagree with sending my children to private Jewish schools. I do not think segregation is the way to promote tolerance.

In Israel and you've never been there, you have no idea how the public schools work. If you did you would understand the issue of Israel as a Jewish state, and who goes to public schools is not one and the same and the public schools do not segregate based on religion, skin colour, culture. People can opt out and send their children to ultra-orthodox Jewish or Sharia law schools or Christan schools. They have that option.

There is nothing hypocritical about what I said. You are under the mistaken impression because you won't travel to Israel or take the time to even understand what goes on within it, that its being a Jewish state was created to serve as a refuge, a state guarantee that Jews would be protected not exterminated by the state. It did not and does not segregate. Segregation has happened on the West Bank or in Gaza because Hamas, and the PA threatened to kill Palestinians who lived side by side Jews and I was there and witnessed that so don't even presume to tell me otherwise. As well I witnessed first hand the people who have chosen to segregate were extremist Jews and Muslims or fundamentalist orthodox Jews and Muslims and Christians. They did so on an individual basis because of their extremist religious beliefs.

Then there has been terrorism-something you do not understand that now causes Palestinians and Israelis to be afraid of each other. It is their fear that is stoked by terrorism deliberately so they will not trust one another. That's the point of terrorism-to get in people's heads and have them cower from each other.

The person who made these calls, has clearly some serious mental illness. If it was caused by a brain tumour we will find out. On the other hand if this guy was an extremist hater, he should be called out as that. Either way once again Israel caught a person engaging in terror. That is the point not segregation, not Muslim victims, not Jewish victims.

The use of such events to piss on Israel is old that on this forum. The usual individuals come out on cue and piss.

[Rue]

17 minutes ago, hot enough said:

Muslims have been victims, the victims of illegal attacks on their countries, which far outweigh any attacks on the western illegal invaders.

 

It doesn't help your case to always be crying wolf or running around screaming, "the sky is falling, the sky is falling". Why do you keep repeating this self-delusion, above?

1. Your first reference  has nothing at all to do with this thread.

2. Your assertion that two wrongs make a right, i.e., attacks on presumably innocent Muslims in Europe outweight what ISIL or Hamas or Al Quaeda, Boca Raton have done, is not only illogical but shows your agenda is to piss on what you perceive is your enemy-the West.

3. You might want to read back your responses to me which attempt to change the thread's topic and turn Muslims into victims and ask yourself the question you think you direct at me. By the way I am not crying wolf-I am simply responding directly to your words, and you are no wolf. You are just someone with an agenda who spews negative generalizations to justify your hatred and biases against non Muslims.

Edited March 25, 2017 by Rue

[Rue]

16 minutes ago, hot enough said:

What do you not understand by the STATE of Israel?

Your question makes no sense You are clearly trying to challenge me in clumsy and quite fractured syntax as to whether Israel has a right to exist as a Jewish state. That is not the topic of this thread. Save the Jew baiting. I aint biting.

By the way thanks for illustrating the agenda behind this thread and its purpose.

Lol.

Speaking about taking the bait and chomping down.

You done or do you think your trying to hijack this thread to piss on Israel is working?

Come on boys. At least send someone to the board who can hijack with a tad more creativity in their spin.

Salam.

 

 

Edited March 25, 2017 by Rue

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Rue said:

Boca Raton

East Florida is a dog eat dog place, alright.

[Rue]

11 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

East Florida is a dog eat dog place, alright.

Hee hee. Listen you want to spell out their correct name and advertise them go ahead. I won't. I find them to be nothing but excrement.

Go on spell out there name on another thread and giggle about them.

Hijacking this thread to giggle at terrorists and try present them as if they have the right to expect anyone to state their correct name speaks loudly of you.

You got that or do I need to spell that out...