eyeball Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 21 hours ago, Argus said: There is no way of discussing group behavior without generalizing. Anyone with even a reasonable degree of intelligence understands there will be individual variation within a group. That does not invalidate what we can expect of the GROUP in terms of behavior. Like discussions about bigots and racists and whatnot? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Argus Posted December 19, 2016 Author Report Posted December 19, 2016 1 hour ago, bcsapper said: I understand. They would only equate to some Muslims. There is no KKK equivalent of the rest of the Muslims, as far as I know. What percentage of the Muslim world do you think approves of homosexuals or Jews? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Guest Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Argus said: What percentage of the Muslim world do you think approves of homosexuals or Jews? Beats me. What about you? Quote
Omni Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Beats me. What about you? 6 minutes ago, Argus said: What percentage of the Muslim world do you think approves of homosexuals or Jews? I'm holding my breath for the (another) grandiose assumption. Quote
Argus Posted December 19, 2016 Author Report Posted December 19, 2016 46 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Beats me. What about you? Well, I haven't done the math but... Percentage of Muslims with Unfavorable Views of Jews: Jordan - 100 percent Lebanon - 99 percent Egypt - 98 percent Morocco - 88 percent Indonesia - 76 percent Pakistan - 74 percent Turkey - 60 percent On the question "Should society accept homosexuality" the answer was no from: Lebanon - 80 percent Turkey - 78 percent Palestine - 93 percent Egypt - 95 percent Jordan - 97 percent Tunisia - 94 percent Malaysia - 86 percent Indonesia - 93 percent Pakistan - 87 percent Nigeria - 98 percent Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted December 19, 2016 Author Report Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Omni said: I'm holding my breath for the (another) grandiose assumption. Do please keep doing so. Edited December 19, 2016 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Omni Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, Argus said: Do please keep doing so. I'll make sure to get a few deep breaths in between. Quote
Guest Posted December 19, 2016 Report Posted December 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, Argus said: Well, I haven't done the math but... Percentage of Muslims with Unfavorable Views of Jews: Jordan - 100 percent Lebanon - 99 percent Egypt - 98 percent Morocco - 88 percent Indonesia - 76 percent Pakistan - 74 percent Turkey - 60 percent On the question "Should society accept homosexuality" the answer was no from: Lebanon - 80 percent Turkey - 78 percent Palestine - 93 percent Egypt - 95 percent Jordan - 97 percent Tunisia - 94 percent Malaysia - 86 percent Indonesia - 93 percent Pakistan - 87 percent Nigeria - 98 percent Well if you already knew... Quote
Argus Posted December 19, 2016 Author Report Posted December 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Well if you already knew... Be honest. So did you. We all do. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
drummindiver Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 11:09 PM, eyeball said: No what? Millions upon millions of Americans and Canadians have voted for acting this way for decades now. You might have a point if Muslims had been left with or given the same 'opportunity'. Most of these countries are dictatorships. The people don't have a say. This has been going on way before the US even existed. Of course you dont know this as your knowledge of history has already been exposed as suspect. Quote
drummindiver Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 5:16 PM, herples said: The goals being to restore white supremacy in the south. As opposed to ruling the world under Sharia. And youre worried about some red neck cross burners? Quote
drummindiver Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 0:22 PM, DogOnPorch said: Not a lot of difference between the KKK and Islam. One sleeps with their sisters. The other kills their sisters. I know my druthers. Quote
drummindiver Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 11:00 PM, eyeball said: That doesn't wash AFAIC. Americans know better than to behave the way they do and just as its particularly more disgusting when a priest, a shining beacon so to speak, abuses a child so to is it particularly grotesque when America goes around knocking off democracies and exporting its own variously peculiar brands of fanaticism abroad. You are now excusing Muslims that they dont t know any better? You suget it worse when priests abuse children, which of course it is. You then however support ideology that supports pedophilia by males aND enacts the most barbaric tortures thought of by man. Disconnect. Quote
Omni Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 On 12/18/2016 at 9:22 AM, DogOnPorch said: Not a lot of difference between the KKK and Islam. Once a xenophobe, always a xenophobe. Quote
drummindiver Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 5:33 PM, WestCoastRunner said: You need to read up on children and teenagers in sex trafficking. Yes, Islam has been doing both since inception. Quote
drummindiver Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 5:25 PM, WestCoastRunner said: I was responding to the concern of sex slavery in Muslim countries as if it's non existent here. You cannot seriously suggest it goes on at the same levels? That's like saying murders occur at the same rate in Caracas (3998) or about 30 places down Detroit (395). Toronto had 57. Every single case is horrific but a blip on the radar. Quote
drummindiver Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 f On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 0:10 PM, Canadianjim said: I am sorry but if your don't know what's going on over there , no point in us discussing it because i follow it very closely. Many people do follow. Dont brag then not share. Quote
Canadianjim Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 31 minutes ago, drummindiver said: f Many people do follow. Dont brag then not share. Ok. Fair enough. Start with the book "the General's son" By Miko Peled or watch video of his speeches to various international groups on your tube. Quote
herples Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 1 hour ago, drummindiver said: As opposed to ruling the world under Sharia. And youre worried about some red neck cross burners? Why would I be worried about redneck cross burners? You obviously haven't followed the discussion. Quote
drummindiver Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 19 minutes ago, Canadianjim said: Ok. Fair enough. Start with the book "the General's son" By Miko Peled or watch video of his speeches to various international groups on your tube. Telling me too watch youtube?You havevto do something better than that son. Quote
Canadianjim Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 29 minutes ago, drummindiver said: Telling me too watch youtube?You havevto do something better than that son. 29 minutes ago, drummindiver said: Telling me too watch youtube?You havevto do something better than that son. Nope not if you don't like videos of speeches. That's why I gave you the book as well. Your choice, Quote
drummindiver Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) 48 minutes ago, herples said: Why would I be worried about redneck cross burners? You obviously haven't followed the discussion. I have. You can't grasp similarities. Both of their mandates include the annihilation of people different than themselves. On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 0:18 PM, Argus said: Nor KKK members. So you're okay with importing tens of thousands of KKK members every year right? , .maybe they'll assimilate. On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 0:22 PM, DogOnPorch said: Not a lot of difference between the KKK and Islam. As i explained, lot the same. Plus both sides wear long flowing whiterobes. Coincidence? On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 0:26 PM, DogOnPorch said: Islam nor the KKK are 'races'. As if you still have to clarify this. On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 0:28 PM, herples said: The KKK are white supremacists and Islam is a religion I would say that is a big difference. KKK are after southern autonomy. Islam is after world domination. You're right if you think Islam is 100% scarier. On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 0:35 PM, Argus said: Other religions aren't slaughtering people by the trainload. Neither are the KKK. On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 0:36 PM, herples said: The KKK originally was against the freed black slaves and to keep the them from voting. Around the 1920's there was a shift towards Catholics and immigration. It's message is the same however, to keep white rule in the south. As long as they stay dowm south.Does a southern man of any colour give a shit if I vote or not? On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 0:49 PM, herples said: You cannot separate the KKK from it's white supremacist roots by claiming that it was only against northern influence. You cannot separate Islam's roots by saying it was only against jews and peace. On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 1:03 PM, herples said: Islam isn't based on the basis of being Arab or middle eastern where as the KKK is based on the basis of being white. Islam is believing a ridiculous book and based on being the one true religion.Also discrimination. On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 1:03 PM, DogOnPorch said: The KKK is no slouch politically over its lifetime...5 million members during the 2nd Klan. WW2 put an end to it. ...1.5 billion holds a lot of crazy tjough. On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 4:26 PM, herples said: None of this really matters other than comparing Islam and the KKK is comparing apples to oranges. same same. ...kill kill Edited December 20, 2016 by drummindiver Quote
drummindiver Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 18 minutes ago, Canadianjim said: Nope not if you don't like videos of speeches. That's why I gave you the book as well. Your choice, I read a lot of non fiction about it I do watch youtube debates but cannot stand the constant screaming. A book I read awhile ago was called The Lemon Tree. Slow bit really showed the human side to the conflict. Quote
Canadianjim Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 8 hours ago, drummindiver said: I read a lot of non fiction about it I do watch youtube debates but cannot stand the constant screaming. A book I read awhile ago was called The Lemon Tree. Slow bit really showed the human side to the conflict. An Israeli born Jew...who served in the IDF.,..... who's father was a general in the 67 war . who's grandfather was one of the founders,, You dare imply is fiction?? Tell your what you give me a source that has that kind of credibility. There is no source you have that can match it.. None. So quit the bullsh^t and then we can have a conservation. We already know the fiction that we have been living with for decades ,such as Israel was attacked in 1967. We know today thanks to Menachem Begin's admission, Israel started 3 of it's wars including the 1967 War. However I suspect you don't even know that. We'll see how much propaganda you believe. Quote
Canadianjim Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 17 hours ago, bcsapper said: Well if you already knew... Well land theft is rarely viewed favourably. Quote
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