Invasion of Canada

[Altai]

1 hour ago, Wilber said:

There is no issue. The relationship this country has with its FN is an ongoing process but this country and the people in it aren't going anywhere.

We can carry 30 million people in 1 month to Europe with daily 200 voyages from 10 ports. 

Edited November 21, 2016 by Altai

[Ash74]

1 minute ago, Altai said:

We can carry 30 million people in 1 month to Europe with daily 200 voyages from 10 ports. 

Nope. Send your fleet. 

[Goddess]

Again, I ask .....where exactly are 30 million of us going?

Edited November 21, 2016 by Goddess

[Wilber]

12 minutes ago, Altai said:

We can carry 30 million people in 1 month to Europe with daily 200 voyages from 10 ports. 

Why do you need ships at all to take people to Europe?

[Ash74]

What about the 300 million Americans? 

Or the other 700 million people in the western hemisphere? 

Why are you only picking on canada?

How very racist of you

[OftenWrong]

We helped the natives in the old days, we even offered them blankets. But now we find that we cannot help much more, even if we try. You see, on many native reservations they don't even have clean hot and cold water, flush toilets nor electricity, let alone a playstation 4. When we sent them a truckload of free nintendos they had no where to plug them in. They tried to play football with them instead, but they are not even round. Sending them aid was pointless.

So then the grand chiefs sold the nintendos and made 10 million in cash. But the chiefs didn't share the money with their people. They built mansions for themselves on the reserve, beautiful extravagant places with jacuzzis for horses. They take all the money that Canada gives into their own pockets, while the rest of the tribe still squats in the bush. The next, most logical step is to let a white man run the tribe.

https://encrypted.google.com/#q=canada+first+nations+embezzlement

[?Impact]

34 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

We helped the natives in the old days, we even offered them blankets.

"offered"? We sold them blankets, in exchange for furs. Have you not heard the term for Hudson's Bay "point" blankets? They were graded on a scale of 1 to 4 points, in half-point increments. A point was worth a beaver pelt, a half-point was a half pelt or an imperfect one.

There was the suggestion by Lord Jeffrey Amherst to give smallpox infested blankets to enemy tribes, perhaps that is what you mean by offered.

[Ash74]

Oh I am the first to say we screwed the natives.

We cannot fix the past all we can do is never repeat it. We send money to the reservations that the cheifs refuse to share how it is spent and we offer free post secondary education that not enough take advantage of.

It is our history and despite what another person demands, we are not leaving. All we can do is keep trying to make amends. 

I feel it is better money spent than for Syrians in other countries to move to.

[Altai]

9 hours ago, Wilber said:

Why do you need ships at all to take people to Europe?

Okay you will swim. You wont be allowed to get on the ship. We will provide you some equipments needed. Shortest distance is from Bonavista/Canada to Portmagee/Ireland, about 1800 miles.

Choose one, I will tell you its price.

[Altai]

9 hours ago, Ash74 said:

What about the 300 million Americans? 

Or the other 700 million people in the western hemisphere? 

Why are you only picking on canada?

How very racist of you

Because this topis is about Canada, not US or any other countries. Ofcourse this is not specific to Canada, other countries will be treated the same way.

[Ash74]

7 hours ago, Altai said:

Because this topis is about Canada, not US or any other countries. Ofcourse this is not specific to Canada, other countries will be treated the same way.

Who is going to make us leave?

Because I promise you Canadians are not going anywhere.

[Benz]

12 hours ago, ?Impact said:

"offered"? We sold them blankets, in exchange for furs. Have you not heard the term for Hudson's Bay "point" blankets? They were graded on a scale of 1 to 4 points, in half-point increments. A point was worth a beaver pelt, a half-point was a half pelt or an imperfect one.

There was the suggestion by Lord Jeffrey Amherst to give smallpox infested blankets to enemy tribes, perhaps that is what you mean by offered.

It was not a suggestion. He really did it. Too much smoke to pretend there are no fire.

http://www.umass.edu/legal/derrico/amherst/lord_jeff.html

Altai will need more than that to justify our deportation though.

[Wilber]

8 hours ago, Altai said:

Okay you will swim. You wont be allowed to get on the ship. We will provide you some equipments needed. Shortest distance is from Bonavista/Canada to Portmagee/Ireland, about 1800 miles.

Choose one, I will tell you its price.

I wanted to know why you needed ships to get 30 million Turks to Europe. We aren't going anywhere.

[Altai]

1 hour ago, Wilber said:

I wanted to know why you needed ships to get 30 million Turks to Europe. We aren't going anywhere.

Because its not your land. You came from Europe. 

[Wilber]

15 minutes ago, Altai said:

Because its not your land. You came from Europe. 

Nope, 4th generation Canadian so come and get it, but be prepared to find a Canadian grave.

[Ash74]

34 minutes ago, Altai said:

Because its not your land. You came from Europe. 

Some of it is. I bought it. Well the bank bought it but I am paying them back. I also pay taxes which build hospitals and schools. Taxes also go to a very very good military. It might be small but never underestimate the Canadian army. 

[Altai]

1 hour ago, Wilber said:

Nope, 4th generation Canadian so come and get it, but be prepared to find a Canadian grave.

What a stupid excuse !!! Being 4th generation does not chance the fact that you live on a stolen land. 

[Wilber]

Just now, Altai said:

What a stupid excuse !!! Being 4th generation does not chance the fact that you live on a stolen land. 

You show no respect for me or my country Altai. Get stuffed.

[Altai]

1 hour ago, Ash74 said:

Some of it is. I bought it. Well the bank bought it but I am paying them back. I also pay taxes which build hospitals and schools. Taxes also go to a very very good military. It might be small but never underestimate the Canadian army. 

This is your problem. You buy a stolen thing. Lets find a police officer around and ask him/her what would happen if you would buy a stolen thing. 

Edited November 22, 2016 by Altai

[Altai]

1 hour ago, Wilber said:

You show no respect for me or my country Altai. Get stuffed.

I just defend the "justice", nothing else. I dont know what does "get stuffed" mean.

[Altai]

Okay please stop trolling my topic. You are welcomed if you want to share sources which will contribute to the subject content and will enlighten us with informations. I dont want to see "my father is able to beat your father" kind of childish posts. 

[Ash74]

20 minutes ago, Altai said:

This is your problem. You buy a stolen thing. Lets find a police officer around and ask him/her what would happen if you would buy a stolen thing. 

So if I am in the wrong why don't you call the police on me and report my crimes of theft?

I cannot charge the children or grandchildren or great grand children or great great grandchildren of a wrong doing. 

There are a billion people in the western hemisphere and no matter how large of a temper tantrum you make we are not leaving or we will not be forced to leave either. 

Edited November 22, 2016 by Ash74

[Ash74]

29 minutes ago, Altai said:

You cant provoke me, I dont take you seriously.

You need to ask that to the today's politicians and statesmen. As I said this is not my idea in fact. I am talking according to today's understanding of World politics. For example Israel says that Palestine is their granparents' lands and they have right to take it back and almost all Western countries including Canada accept and support it. Then I want to apply the same rules to Canada and I want Native's lands back.


Deal with it. 

OK. 

Let's talk realistically. I know you have stated for the billion of refugees that would be created that they would just have to "Deal with it". But this would be impossible. It would be like trying to take over the world by opening a shoe store. 

 The food and shelter alone would lead to mass starvation and suffering. Not to mention the fact that there would not be the population left in the western hemisphere to work and feed the people that were displaced let alone the rest of Europe. 

This would cause a world wide depression that would lead to death of millions. 

 

[Altai]

As I said, I will follow this issue and I am trying to contact with natives. Below two of them and what they said. It does not seem like they invited Europeans to invade their lands as you claim. Its clear these people are assimilated by the European invaders.

" I am what some call Plains Cree. I am disconneted to my culture and people (we were takne to Australia in the late 1800's). Our nationality was kept from us until we discovered it recently. I am trying to re awaken Neheyo culture in my spirit and wish to re connect to my people (as does my younger brother). I have begun learning my language and am trying to learn more. If there are any Neheyo in Victoria I would appreciate their connection. If they are interested I would like to participate in sundance and grassdance with them and possibly initiate an Australian Powow for our people in Australia "

 

"My Great Grandfather was taken from Ontario and brought to Australia and was given the name Richard Moore. He resided in Dubbo NSW and the local council there have art made by him. He raised horses and started a transport company there. We have been kept in the dark (By my Grandmother) on our heritage and when she died my Grandfather appeared and told us who we were. Since then I have been trying to find other Cree (Neheyo) In Australia. I have also started a Facebook Group called The Cree People Living in Australia as a forum for exchange of information and reconnetion for all Neheyo people that live in Australia. Hopeing that we can reunite and reconnect to our culture"

Edited December 5, 2016 by Altai

[Altai]

Is it changing people's location to prevent any future revolts ? or something else ?