Altai Posted October 2, 2016 Author Report Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) One of the biggest differences in Turkish and other languages, we can make a statement with all-in-one word while you can do the same with a complate sentence in another language.For example the word "kurtulamiyorum" in the lyrics of the song below means "I cant get rid of you" in English. Edited October 2, 2016 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 2, 2016 Author Report Posted October 2, 2016 This one's very nice. Yes, it is an old song and has beautiful music and lyrics. Another old song and sooo emotional, makes me cry Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 4, 2016 Author Report Posted October 4, 2016 Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 5, 2016 Author Report Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) I dont like RaP music but I share all kind of Turkish music in this topic. This one includes lyrics in German too. Edited October 5, 2016 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 6, 2016 Author Report Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) This is an Ottoman Army song. LyricsUnwary will never know how to fight and will never know the fun in the battlefield, Thrones and skies will shake when brave soldiers yell "Allahu Akbar", Fight for Allah and there is no doubt that victory is ours, we are given promise for it. Edited October 6, 2016 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 7, 2016 Author Report Posted October 7, 2016 Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 7, 2016 Author Report Posted October 7, 2016 Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 9, 2016 Author Report Posted October 9, 2016 (edited) He has an interesting voice and accent but I like the music. Bap bap bapa bapa ...... Edited October 9, 2016 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 11, 2016 Author Report Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) This is another Turkish accent, belongs to Northern part. Some of these singers which I share in this topic are dead now and its a strange feeling. Edited October 11, 2016 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 15, 2016 Author Report Posted October 15, 2016 Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 17, 2016 Author Report Posted October 17, 2016 This man also has an interesting voice but I love the music and lyrics. This is a song written for prophet Muhammad's closest bodyguard Ali. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
August1991 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Posted October 18, 2016 Political correctness? Multiculturalism? Moderators: Please stop this poster's use of this forum for self-promotion. Quote
Altai Posted October 18, 2016 Author Report Posted October 18, 2016 4 hours ago, August1991 said: Political correctness? Multiculturalism? Moderators: Please stop this poster's use of this forum for self-promotion. Hi, this song below another song was written for the prophet Muhammad's best man Ali. The sword in the pic is his famous sword, shaped like as snake tongue. Its hard to translate but I can try if you want. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) Nice music, lyrics and clip. Edited October 20, 2016 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) This is another old song. The singer had to flee abroad for political pressures and threats. He died in a foreign country, in an unknown location, at an unknown time, for an unknown reason. Edited October 23, 2016 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
RB Posted October 23, 2016 Report Posted October 23, 2016 On 2016-10-18 at 1:39 AM, August1991 said: Political correctness? Multiculturalism? Moderators: Please stop this poster's use of this forum for self-promotion. It would have been nice to have a deeper "smarter" discussion on the music here and lends to an opportunity to otherwise learn about other kinds of music. For example "I like a song" could explain it is a ballad and tells a story i.e. incorporates impressions of life in wherever, and played in a period. Or even it was "bright" or "majestically played" - really there is nothing to draw - I agree August this discussion is not encouraging. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 23, 2016 Report Posted October 23, 2016 I would have removed the comments above since they are thread drift, but Altai quoted one of them. If you don't like a post, report it. That's all. There is no need to discuss the music posted in the off-topic threads. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
msj Posted October 23, 2016 Report Posted October 23, 2016 I've quite enjoyed this thread. For example, rap is horrible even in other languages. Other than that, I can only listen and enjoy - not much to discuss really just like that other thread on music which is a mile wide and an inch deep. If you don't like the thread then how about ignoring it? Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
August1991 Posted October 24, 2016 Report Posted October 24, 2016 4 hours ago, RB said: It would have been nice to have a deeper "smarter" discussion on the music here and lends to an opportunity to otherwise learn about other kinds of music. For example "I like a song" could explain it is a ballad and tells a story i.e. incorporates impressions of life in wherever, and played in a period. Or even it was "bright" or "majestically played" - really there is nothing to draw - I agree August this discussion is not encouraging. I agree. I travel abroad often and enjoy listening to the car radio (rental or taxi). I now use my phone to record local pop music, to figure out later. (Shazam and Spotify sometimes work but are very western local... ) Quote
msj Posted October 24, 2016 Report Posted October 24, 2016 Perhaps if you two demonstrated an interest in exploring discussion by asking pointed questions then I would grant you credibility on this. But you haven't so I don't. Ignore the thread and let the rest of us enjoy it quietly. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Altai Posted October 24, 2016 Author Report Posted October 24, 2016 This song below is from my homeland, so Central Asia. The place where we came to Anatolia from. My father side is Sejuk Turk, so they came over Iran and mother side is Horasan Turk, so came from Russian Caucasus part. I dont understand big part of lyrics but it makes me cry always. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
RB Posted October 25, 2016 Report Posted October 25, 2016 23 hours ago, August1991 said: I agree. I travel abroad often and enjoy listening to the car radio (rental or taxi). I now use my phone to record local pop music, to figure out later. (Shazam and Spotify sometimes work but are very western local... ) hmm I travel around a bit and I do bring the music back with me - somehow it is not the same when you blast it at home. What I was articulating it would be nice to learn more - I am interested the Turkish music. For example, so I am interested in Great Big World and Christina Aguilera "Say Something" ballad is full of emotions, when you play on piano, the arrangement of the chords and voice just gets you to a certain je ne sais quoi and I don't have to post the video or audio - I think this is what August was getting at. Prior I was never into rap or reggae music, but now I have a different view of this music and how a message can be carried. I love the mixing of the music Sia Cheap Thrills is a fun song and spans one octave. Check check folks like Maria Carey range G#2-G#7 - is in the world records - sheese. Two days ago I was chatting with a group of under 29 and give some lines from one of "the killers" song. Needless to say they were understandingly shocked. Music translates and connects. Quote
msj Posted October 25, 2016 Report Posted October 25, 2016 Right. You want to learn more while bemoaning the thread you could have contributed to in a positive way by asking questions rather than partaking in the BS august started. Again, right. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
msj Posted October 25, 2016 Report Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) 27 minutes ago, RB said: For example, so I am interested in Great Big World and Christina Aguilera "Say Something" ballad is full of emotions, when you play on piano, the arrangement of the chords and voice just gets you to a certain je ne sais quoi and I don't have to post the video or audio - I think this is what August was getting at. Good for you. Consider taking it to the other thread about "what are you listening to now?" This thread is about Turkish music. Maybe the creator of this thread is not articulate enough in English and/or music to discuss things further? I know I'm not (about music). Maybe asking a few questions before going all "shut her down" would have endeared me to you rather than thinking you, like august, have certain issues when the music ain't white enough. Your curiosity into Turkish music isn't enough to appreciate a thread being created with a person selecting the tunes for you? You are discouraged because it lacks the kind of discussion you yourself didn't even attempt to partake in? And no, I don't think neither you nor August have travelled enough nor have articulated enough to expunge that stain. Edited October 25, 2016 by msj Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
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