taxme Posted February 28, 2017 Author Report Posted February 28, 2017 19 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: The two situations are different. Britain faced the prospect of an American invasion and could not afford disunity on the home front. I think Canada has worked out darn well, in the league of Switzerland and Belgium which have not exactly been hell on earth either despite being multilingual. We have choices to make now about how much change we can manage. All is not yet lost by any means. The french would have no doubt stayed on the side of the British. It was either stay and fight with the Canadian British side or go over to the side of the American British. They would have lost either way. At least the french staying with Canada has allowed them today to have a province that declares itself a unilingual french speaking only province, a slap in the face to the Anglophone people of today. If the french had sided with the Americans there would most likely not be a unilingual french speaking Quebec today. Bilingualism alone has cost the Canadian taxpayer's billions and billions of tax dollars since it was implemented by daddy trudeau. Canada now being officially multicultural the day may come that one or two of those other ethnic groups out there in Canada land may start to demand a language piece of the pie. There was already one try to make Punjabi an official language in Canada years ago. The cost if that happened would probably run into the trillions. Are you prepared to sacrifice your children's and grandchildren's future tax dollars being blown on the possibility of more languages being made official like they have in Switzerland? It would be interesting to know how much tax dollars are blown on having many multiple official languages in one country. The choices we need to make today is to stop with multiculturalism altogether before it opens up a can of rotten worms one day. Works for me. Quote
?Impact Posted March 1, 2017 Report Posted March 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, taxme said: Bilingualism alone has cost the Canadian taxpayer's billions and billions of tax dollars since it was implemented by daddy trudeau.. No matter how may billion times you repeat that, it doesn't make it true. You realize that only New Brunswick and the federal government translates its official record of the legislature (Hansard) into both official languages. There are countless other examples of lack of bilingualism in this country, but we keep hearing about this nebulous billions it costs to implement something that doesn't exist. Quote
taxme Posted March 1, 2017 Author Report Posted March 1, 2017 42 minutes ago, ?Impact said: No matter how may billion times you repeat that, it doesn't make it true. You realize that only New Brunswick and the federal government translates its official record of the legislature (Hansard) into both official languages. There are countless other examples of lack of bilingualism in this country, but we keep hearing about this nebulous billions it costs to implement something that doesn't exist. No, because there are french trouble makers in the rest of Canada trying to get all the English speaking provinces to go bilingual. They are supported by the french controlled federal government at the expense of the Anglophone taxpayer's who do not see the need for the Anglophone provinces to go bilingual. Bilingualism in the federal government was created to make a work project for francophones. I am not talking about a months worth of bilingualism here. I am talking about fifty years of forced bilingualism which has run into the billions upon billions, and Canada is still not fully bilingual. Even Quebec has decided that it does not want to be known as a bilingual province. What the heck is wrong with the rest of the country? Why don't they declare themselves unilingual English, and end this foolish costly game called bilingualism. Bilingualism is a dead horse but there are still people like yourself who still thinks that bilingualism is great. Bilingualism was brought about to make francophones feel at home in Canada. Well, that didn't work now did it? And try getting a job in Quebec if you are not a francophone, and don't have true french blood running thru your veins. The french have made fools of the Anglophones but they still just don't seem to get it yet. Got me. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 1, 2017 Report Posted March 1, 2017 3 hours ago, taxme said: The french would have no doubt stayed on the side of the British. It was either stay and fight with the Canadian British side or go over to the side of the American British. They would have lost either way. Are you prepared to sacrifice your children's and grandchildren's future tax dollars being blown on the possibility of more languages being made official like they have in Switzerland? It would be interesting to know how much tax dollars are blown on having many multiple official languages in one country. I don't think French Canadians did lose by picking Canada. Anyway, we are in some ways a nation of losers and we're not the worse for it either. As an immigrant, I like bilingualism. On the issue of my children's future, however, I can be more dogmatic than usual; I have no children. Quote
ZenOps Posted April 12, 2017 Report Posted April 12, 2017 I always felt like federal politics was racist. I mean learning English and French is like expecting a European to fluently communicate in Chinese and Japanese to get a government job in Asia. One language - ok fine everyone needs to communicate with each other, but two? Extremely rare. You can go one in a million for that type of person, and when you do find that one person - they are unlikely to also be skilled in whatever the job *actually* needs. Quote
Argus Posted April 12, 2017 Report Posted April 12, 2017 On 2/28/2017 at 7:02 PM, ?Impact said: No matter how may billion times you repeat that, it doesn't make it true. A new study has found the price tag for bilingualism in Canada is $2.4 billion per year. The report from the Fraser Institute claims the federal government spends approximately $1.5-billion each year while the provinces shell out $900 million. Ontario spent the most ($600 million), followed by New Brunswick (approximately $85 million, according to Postmedia. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/01/16/bilingualism-canada-cost-french_n_1209205.html Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
taxme Posted April 13, 2017 Author Report Posted April 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Argus said: A new study has found the price tag for bilingualism in Canada is $2.4 billion per year. The report from the Fraser Institute claims the federal government spends approximately $1.5-billion each year while the provinces shell out $900 million. Ontario spent the most ($600 million), followed by New Brunswick (approximately $85 million, according to Postmedia. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/01/16/bilingualism-canada-cost-french_n_1209205.html Your tax dollars at work. Tax dollars well spent. eh? Chuckle-chuckle. Quote
taxme Posted April 13, 2017 Author Report Posted April 13, 2017 5 hours ago, ZenOps said: I always felt like federal politics was racist. I mean learning English and French is like expecting a European to fluently communicate in Chinese and Japanese to get a government job in Asia. One language - ok fine everyone needs to communicate with each other, but two? Extremely rare. You can go one in a million for that type of person, and when you do find that one person - they are unlikely to also be skilled in whatever the job *actually* needs. It's interesting how Quebec was allowed by the federal government to declare itself a unilingual french-speaking province only. If any other province Outside Quebec tried to declare itself unilingual English, the feds would be all over that province crying bigotry and prejudice against the french people. The lame duck media would be all over the premier of that province. No one saw the french media in quebec say anything against it. But you can be sure that your own Anglophone media outside quebec would be all over that province. This just shows that our Anglophone politicians and the media would be all over anyone trying to do the same thing quebec has done. The french have pretty much taken over the rest of Canada without a whimper from the Anglophone people. We already have seen Ontario go bilingual, it just has not been declared yet. Just about every highway sign in Ontario is now bilingual. Contrast that to quebec , and all traffic highway and city signs are in french only. Even Manitoba and Nova Scotia are starting to get into the act by trying to make all highway signs bilingual. I can just see the francos of quebec laughing at the foolish and stupid Anglophones, and their trying to go bilingual while quebec tries everything within it's power to try and keep the English language out of quebec. But will the Anglophones ever get this? I doubt it very much. They are too busy trying to please quebec, and appear oblivious to their being made fools of by the francophones. This is the madness that papa trudeau started, and will only continue under his joyful son. Canada can be such a joke at times. Quote
blackbird Posted April 13, 2017 Report Posted April 13, 2017 On 2016-08-25 at 2:32 PM, taxme said: At website Immigration Watch Canada, there was a story written on how a resident in a condo complex in Richmond, BC. was told that all AGM's(annual general meetings)will be conducted in Mandarin only. This was voted in by the majority of Asians who own most of the condos in the complex. Is this what Canadian multiculturalism is all about and has been telling these Asians all along that they can totally ignore one of the main official languages in their meetings? I can understand if all the owners in this complex of condos were Asian and all of them spoke Mandarin but this is not the case. So, just what the hell is going on here? Is this Canada or is this China? How dare these Asians tell other condo owners where no doubt some are Caucasian and speak English only that all meetings will be held in Mandarin only. One of the condo owners who is being affected by this is now taking this to the Human Rights Commission(whom I would never trust for fairness). This is a multicultural case for the HRC and I don't believe that this woman will win with them. It is my belief from seeing other HRC decisions believes that they will support the Asians. But we will wait and see for now. So, for those of you who believe that multiculturalism is suppose to be a wonderful and great thing for Canada, and that no one will be treated differently, all will be treated equally, can now see that with some of these alien foreign people this will not be so. As a Canadian I am offended and insulted by this action, and I would call it an act of racism, and I believe that this program and agenda called multiculturalism is nothing more but a big farce. It is not meant for the host Canadians but is there to promote others and their ways of doing things on the host Canadian people. This is just unbelievable. So,what say you? Care to comment? Over. Source:Immigration Watch Canada website. I am very disappointed in our Liberal (and NDP occasionally) governments in B.C. They have allowed the real estate prices in Vancouver to skyrocket for decades and ordinary people can no longer afford a home in one of Canada's greatest cities. The lowest price home is around one million dollars. Scandalous what politicians allowed to happen. Now we are reaping the consequences which you describe above as one example. They have no interest in being Canadian and assimilating. Quote
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