Guest Posted January 1, 2017 Report Posted January 1, 2017 I just saw on the BBC that 35 were killed, so far. I hope the Santas are dead, if that's what they were. Quote
Argus Posted January 1, 2017 Report Posted January 1, 2017 1 minute ago, bcsapper said: I just saw on the BBC that 35 were killed, so far. I hope the Santas are dead, if that's what they were. It's impossible to know what is real and what is theater in Erdogen's Turkey. After re-starting the war with the Kurds because a Kurdish party was denying him a majority in parliament he needs to continue the provocations and it's not unlikely his own secret police are the ones laying out bombs here and there so he can arrest more kurds. i doubt bombs are from ISIS since Erdogen's government has been funding them for years. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Altai Posted January 1, 2017 Report Posted January 1, 2017 Turkish stray cats are always in the conflicts Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Ash74 Posted January 1, 2017 Report Posted January 1, 2017 41 minutes ago, Altai said: Turkish stray cats are always in the conflicts Will erdogen plan on declaring war on stray cats now? Quote “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
GostHacked Posted January 2, 2017 Author Report Posted January 2, 2017 I predict the downfall of Turkey this year. It will become a failed state by the summer. But that's just a guess. Quote
eyeball Posted January 2, 2017 Report Posted January 2, 2017 Or be swamped by the failed region around it...6 of one 1/2 doz of the other. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Ash74 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Posted January 2, 2017 29 minutes ago, GostHacked said: I predict the downfall of Turkey this year. It will become a failed state by the summer. But that's just a guess. It maybe on that path but I think it will take longer than 6 months. The Turkey government is squeezing any opposition and will push all the enemies of Erdogan's together. He is a weak sensitive man who now is trying to make ties with Putin for strength. Turkey needs the EU and the US but he seems to be pushing away to build his police state. Quote “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
Altai Posted January 2, 2017 Report Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, GostHacked said: I predict the downfall of Turkey this year. It will become a failed state by the summer. But that's just a guess. This is expected by all of our Western "allies" since last 40 years Each next summer or eaxch next winter or eah next spring or each next autumn is a new hope for our Western "allies" but they always become "failed states" for each new trial. I think FETO terror organizatin which is created and funded by our Western "allies" will try another coup attempt or another "Gezi Park" uprising but you really still dont know Muslim Turkish people we will bang you soo bad Edited January 2, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted January 2, 2017 Report Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) President Erdogan after Reina Night Club attack; "We will keep destroying terrorists in Syria and Iraq." I will translate it for you because you are heavily brainwashed and not capable to understand such an easy sentence; So our president says that this attack is done by Western countries, especially US. Edited January 2, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
GostHacked Posted January 2, 2017 Author Report Posted January 2, 2017 6 hours ago, Altai said: This is expected by all of our Western "allies" since last 40 years Each next summer or eaxch next winter or eah next spring or each next autumn is a new hope for our Western "allies" but they always become "failed states" for each new trial. I think FETO terror organizatin which is created and funded by our Western "allies" will try another coup attempt or another "Gezi Park" uprising but you really still dont know Muslim Turkish people we will bang you soo bad I understand you believe we are all brainwashed in the West, as many of us here believe you are brainwashed by your media in Turkey. You have a lot of reading to catch up on here to know where each of us stand on that matter. There are many reports that Turkey is also helping ISIS which to me has bee facilitated by the US through 'friends' like Saudi Arabia and Turkey. It was not the US who bombed an ISIS truck convoy heading to Turkey, that was Russia. Turkey is getting what it deserves in my view, simply because of the meddling it has done in Syria. Who knows, maybe we will see the return of Constantinople. Quote
Altai Posted January 2, 2017 Report Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) Reina Night Club attacker is still lost, only thing known about him is that he is an Asian Turk. According to the experts he is a professional who probably received special war and psychology trainings. He murders and wounds dozens of people in a few minutes and changes his clothes and leaves the scene calmly with a taxi. Edited January 2, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Ash74 Posted January 3, 2017 Report Posted January 3, 2017 3 hours ago, Altai said: Reina Night Club attacker is still lost, only thing known about him is that he is an Asian Turk. According to the experts he is a professional who probably received special war and psychology trainings. He murders and wounds dozens of people in a few minutes and changes his clothes and leaves the scene calmly with a taxi. Perhaps the Turkey security force could ask the Germans for advice. Quote “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
Argus Posted January 3, 2017 Report Posted January 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ash74 said: Perhaps the Turkey security force could ask the Germans for advice. LOL. From what I saw on the news tonight the gunman spent ten minutes inside shooting people, then simply walked away. And there's a police station across the street! The Turkish security forces should damn well be asking lots of people for advice. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Ash74 Posted January 3, 2017 Report Posted January 3, 2017 35 minutes ago, Argus said: LOL. From what I saw on the news tonight the gunman spent ten minutes inside shooting people, then simply walked away. And there's a police station across the street! The Turkish security forces should damn well be asking lots of people for advice. I am not poking fun at the attack. Those poor people did not deserve to be butchered by cowards that feel the need to kill unarmed people because they lack the guts to fight a military. I truly hope that the persons responsible end up in a Turkish prison like the ones that became famous in movies. I was only pointing out that other posts from certain individuals were making light of the Germans response to the attack during the Christmas season. Quote “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
Altai Posted January 3, 2017 Report Posted January 3, 2017 Reine Club attack is not a Daesh attack. Daesh is just another tool and cover. This is a FETO Turkish terror organization attack. So this is a US terror attack. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted January 3, 2017 Report Posted January 3, 2017 (edited) Turkish soldier and Kurdish kids "Look around kids, we have cleaned them all." Edited January 3, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Argus Posted January 3, 2017 Report Posted January 3, 2017 15 hours ago, Ash74 said: I am not poking fun at the attack I didn't think you were, but the response of the Turkish police and security forces certainly deserves some ridicule. Can you imagine a gunman getting ten minutes to shoot up a nightclub across the street from a police station in Canada or the US? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
GostHacked Posted January 3, 2017 Author Report Posted January 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Argus said: I didn't think you were, but the response of the Turkish police and security forces certainly deserves some ridicule. Can you imagine a gunman getting ten minutes to shoot up a nightclub across the street from a police station in Canada or the US? There have been attacks on schools (Sandy Hook), night clubs (Pulse), movie theaters (Aurora) and more with higher casualties than the Turkish night club incident. Quote
Ash74 Posted January 3, 2017 Report Posted January 3, 2017 Who cares about any bombings we have to keep the people uninformed. https://cpj.org/blog/2016/12/turkey-crackdown-chronicle-week-of-december-25.php Quote “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
Argus Posted January 4, 2017 Report Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) 20 hours ago, GostHacked said: There have been attacks on schools (Sandy Hook), night clubs (Pulse), movie theaters (Aurora) and more with higher casualties than the Turkish night club incident. Yes, and police response is usually in one to two minutes. And that's not counting the fact the Turkish police station was across the street. Edited January 4, 2017 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Altai Posted January 4, 2017 Report Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) Moroccan girl who survives the Reina attack says that Turkish polices were inhuman and they didnt enter the club while there were still gunfire inside and they didnt even give water to the victims. Source: http://bit.ly/2hTbe9I Edited January 4, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted January 4, 2017 Report Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) A Turkish victim says that they were lying on the ground and there were many corpses around, she called the police in secret and police told her not to move and play dead. Then polices came in by stepping on and crushing corpses and wounded persons lying on the ground. Source: http://bit.ly/2hREVtq Edited January 4, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 According to the officials there is a huge increase in fake and new Twitter accounts in last days in Turkiye and some anti-govt news agency workers having daily 20 -30 thousands of these new and fake Twitter accounts as follower. This is a signal that they are preparing for another false propaganda try and social uprising try depending on it. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) US keeps attacking Turkiye. Blast in Turkish city, two attackers are neutralized. Update: Three attackers are neutralized, one police officer is martyred. Edited January 5, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Ash74 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Posted January 5, 2017 52 minutes ago, Altai said: US keeps attacking Turkiye. Blast in Turkish city, two attackers are neutralized. Update: Three attackers are neutralized, one police officer is martyred. How is the US attacking Turkey? Quote “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
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