bush_cheney2004 Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Lying on one's golf scorecard is not work. Well, maybe it is for Trump. It does involve numbers. Actually, President Trump has signed hundreds of Bills into law and dozens of Executive Orders...also several vetoes. That involves numbers too. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Actually, President Trump has signed hundreds of Bills into law and dozens of Executive Orders...also several vetoes. That involves numbers too. You see all those people behind him? Some of them can read, and some of them can count. So he doesn't have to. Everytime one of them learns to do both, they get fired. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, bcsapper said: You see all those people behind him? Some of them can read, and some of them can count. So he doesn't have to. Everytime one of them learns to do both, they get fired. Wrong...the people behind Trump in that photo are from animal rights groups. Trump had just signed "The Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture Act". https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/724/text 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Wrong...the people behind Trump in that photo are from animal rights groups. Trump had just signed "The Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture Act". https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/724/text I was speaking figuratively. To those behind the scenes of the presidency. I would have thought that was obvious. Although, to be specific to this instance, any act that punishes animal cruelty of any sort has my full support. Edited October 16, 2020 by bcsapper Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, bcsapper said: I was speaking figuratively. To those behind the scenes of the presidency. I would have thought that was obvious. I was speaking factually...try it some time. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: I was speaking factually...try it some time. I just did. Between posts. Quote
Guest Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: I was speaking factually...try it some time. If you value speaking factually, why would you support Trump? Hasn't he told more lies in his one term than all the previous US presidents put together? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, bcsapper said: If you value speaking factually, why would you support Trump? Hasn't he told more lies in his one term than all the previous US presidents put together? So you admit that all presidents "lie"...welcome back to reality. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: So you admit that all presidents "lie"...welcome back to reality. Everyone lies. Only Trump has the Nobel committee considering a new prize. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Everyone lies. Only Trump has the Nobel committee considering a new prize. Good for Trump...it's seems to work well for him, as he is now the 45th POTUS. Hillary Clinton's lies did not serve her so well. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Good for Trump...it's seems to work well for him, as he is now the 45th POTUS. Hillary Clinton's lies did not serve her so well. Okay, now we're getting somewhere. Facts are not important if lies get you what you want. So why should I try it sometime? It doesn't seem to matter. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, bcsapper said: Okay, now we're getting somewhere. Facts are not important if lies get you what you want. So why should I try it sometime? It doesn't seem to matter. Facts are important, if only to make lies that much more valuable. Otherwise people wouldn't bother. President Trump practices a marvelous command of lies, chaos, disinformation, distraction, diversion, and shock that drives all the virtue signaling liars of the world just nuts...and keeps the fake news media playing the game his way. Brilliant ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Facts are important, if only to make lies that much more valuable. Otherwise people wouldn't bother. President Trump practices a marvelous command of lies, chaos, disinformation, distraction, diversion, and shock that drives all the virtue signaling liars of the world just nuts...and keeps the fake news media playing the game his way. Brilliant ! Yes, if you like... Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, bcsapper said: Yes, if you like... It's not personal...at least not for me...Trump is just another U.S. president with media skills that rival and perhaps surpass those of Ronald Reagan or FDR. Since I am not blinded by a raging hard-on of TDS hatred, it is easy to watch him operate, comparing and contrasting his tenure with other U.S. presidents. ...then he will be gone (sooner or later) and Americans will do it all over again. Accordingly, Canada gets to watch just as it always has. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: It's not personal...at least not for me...Trump is just another U.S. president with media skills that rival and perhaps surpass those of Ronald Reagan or FDR. Since I am not blinded by a raging hard-on of TDS hatred, it is easy to watch him operate, comparing and contrasting his tenure with other U.S. presidents. ...then he will be gone (sooner or later) and Americans will do it all over again. Accordingly, Canada gets to watch just as it always has. It's not hatred, it's contempt. And disgust, I guess. A lot of Trump supporters have been able to walk it back a little and salvage some self respect. Many have just doubled down though, and now have to find ways to justify their support even as waves of negativity wash over them. The man is is a despicable human being, a narcissist and quite possibly a psychopath. To compare him to RR and FDR is like comparing our current Trudeau to his father. Worse, actually. Trump has no redeeming features. I actually believe Trudeau sometimes means well, even if he is out of his depth. I don't think Trump has ever meant well for anyone other than himself. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, bcsapper said: It's not hatred, it's contempt. And disgust, I guess. Call it whatever you wish...obviously some high level of emotional anxiety and investment in this man. And I suspect it is partly do to his purposeful way of evoking such a response, even from other nationals in other countries. Brilliant ! Quote The man is is a despicable human being, a narcissist and quite possibly a psychopath. To compare him to RR and FDR is like comparing our current Trudeau to his father. Worse, actually. Trump has no redeeming features. I actually believe Trudeau sometimes means well, even if he is out of his depth. I don't think Trump has ever meant well for anyone other than himself. And yet, Trump matters more and is far more impactful than Trudeau. My RR/FDR comparison was for media skills and manipulation, regardless of merit(s). Donald Trump and his associates pulled off one of the biggest political upsets in U.S. history, and he did it by using the methods I described, taking full advantage of U.S. voter mindsets and circumstances. President Trump is a marvelous bastard who still manages to sucker punch so many of his haters, even in Canada, because they let him do it. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Call it whatever you wish...obviously some high level of emotional anxiety and investment in this man. And I suspect it is partly do to his purposeful way of evoking such a response, even from other nationals in other countries. Brilliant ! And yet, Trump matters more and is far more impactful than Trudeau. My RR/FDR comparison was for media skills and manipulation, regardless of merit(s). Donald Trump and his associates pulled off one of the biggest political upsets in U.S. history, and he did it by using the methods I described, taking full advantage of U.S. voter mindsets and circumstances. President Trump is a marvelous bastard who still manages to sucker punch so many of his haters, even in Canada, because they let him do it. You keep saying brilliant. I think that's self delusion on your part. There's no doubting Trump matters more and is far more impactful than Trudeau. That's like saying COVID-19 matters more and is far more impactful than a common cold. Trump is not marvelous. He's execrable. Bastard, sure. Edited October 16, 2020 by bcsapper Quote
Guest Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) Double post. Edited October 16, 2020 by bcsapper Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, bcsapper said: You keep saying brilliant. I think that's self delusion on your part. There's no doubting Trump matters more and is far more impactful than Trudeau. That's like saying COVID-19 matters more and is far more impactful than a common cold. Trump is not marvelous. He's execrable. Bastard, sure. You still can't see past your own turgid contempt and disgust...not sure why. I am far from delusional, and equally not emotionally invested. Donald Trump is just another U.S. president. Hell, I didn't even vote for him. Donald Trump's methods have obviously been "brilliant" for him and like minded folk who favour his policies, judicial appointments, and economic impact. Longer term history books will be titled "TRUMP"...far fewer will be titled "Why I really really really hate TRUMP, man he pisses me off". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: You still can't see past your own turgid contempt and disgust...not sure why. I am far from delusional, and equally not emotionally invested. Donald Trump is just another U.S. president. Hell, I didn't even vote for him. Donald Trump's methods have obviously been "brilliant" for him and like minded folk who favour his policies, judicial appointments, and economic impact. Longer term history books will be titled "TRUMP"...far fewer will be titled "Why I really really really hate TRUMP, man he pisses me off". I don't think it's possible for the contempt and disgust felt towards Trump to be turgid. I certainly haven't gotten there yet. We still have a couple of weeks before the election. There's plenty of room. I like his animal cruelty policy (did he come up with that, or did he just sign it?) I'm not overly keen on his keeping people not dead from COVID policy. As for his appointments, even I don't think he's responsible for things like RBG's death or Republican senate hypocricy. It's hard to say what his economic impact has been. Sledgehammer policies aimed at short term benefits with the only goal being the next election resulted in increases to the deficit which have been dwarfed by the response to the COVID pandemic. Longer term history books will be titled "TRUMP: How the hell did that happen?" There will be entire university courses devoted to the question. Quote
WestCanMan Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 2 hours ago, bcsapper said: Lying on one's golf scorecard is not work. Well, maybe it is for Trump. It does involve numbers. What idiotic source is telling you that Trump played so much golf he doesn't have time for work? Why can't you figure out for yourself how many days off a person should have in a year, and multiply that by 4? I'm not here to think for you sapper, but I don't mid pointing out how stupid your post was. This guy would be doing everyone a favor if he took the whole year off: Honestly this is one of the dumbest things that I've ever head anyone say, and he gets paid to think about these kinds of things. It's actually one of his main jobs. 1) If you shoot at someone's leg it's easy to miss, and your bullet will ricochet and eventually hit something with enough force to kill. That could be an innocent child two blocks away. Rule #1, police bullets should only ever hit their intended targets. They shoot for center of body mass, period. 2) If you shoot the leg you can still kill the target, and then it looks like you were shooting someone when you didn't really need to, because you shot at their leg instead of their chest. 3) The very beginning of the de-escalation process is when Demmies stop acting like Rayshard Brown can just go home after he passes out drunk at the wheel of his car. Or they stop acting like it's ok for him to punch a cop and then shoot a taser at his head. Or when they stop acting like black people have any reason at all to truly fear police when they're not committing crimes. Or when they finally start to condemn acts of violence against police. It's no wonder that the US turned into a racially-divided shithole under Obama/Biden. This is just one of many topics that the idiot Dems have completely upside-down. Truthfully, if they all just stayed home and kept their current level of income they'd be doing the US a huge favour. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, bcsapper said: Longer term history books will be titled "TRUMP: How the hell did that happen?" There will be entire university courses devoted to the question. And that's because it did happen...Donald Trump parlayed his media skills and ruthless approach to become President of the United States, destroying Democrats and Republicans along the way. He was/is so effective at doing this, people in other countries like Canada still twist in the wind over things that Trump says and does. Canadian media can't get enough Trump. If you think presidents can stop pandemics, then you give them far too much credit and power to begin with. Canadians use to say the Bush #43 was the worst it could ever be...and he was re-elected. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, WestCanMan said: What idiotic source is telling you that Trump played so much golf he doesn't have time for work? Why can't you figure out for yourself how many days off a person should have in a year, and multiply that by 4? I'm not here to think for you sapper, but I don't mid pointing out how stupid your post was. I wouldn't dream of having you think for me, CanMan. I want to maintain some semblance of sanity and self respect. Luckily I can't be bothered pointing out how stupid your posts are. Scratch that. I'd have to read them. Quote
Guest Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: And that's because it did happen...Donald Trump parlayed his media skills and ruthless approach to become President of the United States, destroying Democrats and Republicans along the way. He was/is so effective at doing this, people in other countries like Canada still twist in the wind over things that Trump says and does. Canadian media can't get enough Trump. If you think presidents can stop pandemics, then you give them far too much credit and power to begin with. Canadians use to say the Bush #43 was the worst it could ever be...and he was re-elected. Media skills and ruthless approach. Not policies or a desire to serve. The argument will forever now be, "who was the second worst president of the US?". Presidents can't stop pandemics. They can respond to them responsibly though. Did he really have to be stopped from wearing a Superman shirt? Quote
WestCanMan Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, bcsapper said: I wouldn't dream of having you think for me, CanMan. I want to maintain some semblance of sanity and self respect. Luckily I can't be bothered pointing out how stupid your posts are. Scratch that. I'd have to read them. Ooh a deflection with a generic sandbox insult. Congrats on passing left-speak 101. Your post literally was garbage sapper. The fact that you didn't like a dose of the truth means nothing to anyone. Grow up. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
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