WestCoastRunner Posted April 1, 2016 Report Posted April 1, 2016 So we have several hypocrites running for office. Now....which hypocrite is the best to lead? I gave my reasons already. Amazing. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
betsy Posted April 1, 2016 Author Report Posted April 1, 2016 Betsy bases her opinions on headlines. After all, she had no idea who Fiorina was. And I explained why. I wasn't interested at the beginning. Not even in Trump. Quote
BC_chick Posted April 1, 2016 Report Posted April 1, 2016 Betsy bases her opinions on headlines. After all, she had no idea who Fiorina was. She used to post here years ago, I know her style. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
betsy Posted April 1, 2016 Author Report Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Amazing. Okay. Amazing, isn't a rebuttal. You're not giving anything..... This is disintegrating now.....I guess we're done. Edited April 1, 2016 by betsy Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted April 1, 2016 Report Posted April 1, 2016 Okay. Amazing, isn't a rebuttal. You're not giving anything..... This is disintegrating now.....I guess we're done. Well actually it is. I'm amazed st the response. I'm left speechless. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
cybercoma Posted April 2, 2016 Report Posted April 2, 2016 Corrections: he said, he'll ban Muslims from entering UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON! You would have to be appalling ignorant to not know what's going on. We know what's going on. Security agencies know what's going on. Academics in foreign policy know what's going on. So why hasn't Trump figured it out yet? Quote
betsy Posted April 2, 2016 Author Report Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) You would have to be appalling ignorant to not know what's going on. We know what's going on. Security agencies know what's going on. Academics in foreign policy know what's going on. So why hasn't Trump figured it out yet? Baloney! If anyone truly knows what's going on, they'd be on it like a bee on honey, and the world would be steps ahead against terrorism! If you want to come up with a solution to a problem, you've got to understand the problem. Simple as that. Otherwise, you're not really dealing with the problem but merely patching holes with band-aid solution! If you're going to clean house, it's better to stop taking in more stuffs until you've sorted out and cleaned out what's already inside! So far, there's so many things we don't fully understand, from why home-grown people are getting radicalized....to how the San Bernardino bride terrorist managed to get approved and given a visa, despite alarm bells sounding! 'Sloppily approved' visa application for San Bernardino terrorists reveals authorities were concerned about how they met but approved them anyway Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3371240/Sloppily-approved-visa-application-San-Bernardino-terrorists-reveals-authorities-concerned-met-asked-details-approved-anyway.html#ixzz44fVxO74J If she managed to get in - obviously, there's a flaw in the system! If there's a flaw in immigration system - you've got to stop the flow of immigration until you find the flaw and fix it! Simple common sense. That's just one area. How many more flaws and weaknesses are there? Maybe I'm indeed appallingly ignorant. It's good to know that someone knows. Since you say you know, and for my own peace of mind - can you please clarify that one about the San Bernardino bride, how come she wasn't flagged at all? Where exactly, and how did the system fail? Edited April 2, 2016 by betsy Quote
betsy Posted April 2, 2016 Author Report Posted April 2, 2016 Look at Brussels as an example! Big time lock down after Paris bombing. If what Turkey says is true, that it had flagged Abdeslam twice....then Belgium proved to be incompetent in handling the issue. Belgium under pressure as Turkey says it flagged up deported bomber but Brussels authorities let him go http://files.heraldscotland.com/politics/political_news/14379527.Belgium_under_pressure_as_Turkey_says_it_flagged_up_deported_bomber_but_Brussels_authorities_let_him_go/?ref=rss What's the point of nations' intelligence working together if you're going to ignore the intelligence being given anyway? Quote
betsy Posted April 2, 2016 Author Report Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) You would have to be appalling ignorant to not know what's going on. We know what's going on. Security agencies know what's going on. Academics in foreign policy know what's going on. So why hasn't Trump figured it out yet? Also, how many Islamic sympathisers are there? Remember the Fort Hood shootings? If you've got them in the military....... On November 5, 2009, a mass shooting took place at Fort Hood, near Killeen, Texas.[1]Nidal Hasan, a U.S. Army major and psychiatrist, fatally shot 13 people and injured more than 30 others.[2][3] The shooting produced more casualties than any other on an American military base. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Fort_Hood_shooting ........ they could be anywhere! You think it's not possible to have any immigration officers sympathetic to the cause? Sympathisers don't have to necessarily blow themselves up, or do any actual killings, you know. They can merely help to advance the cause. You think it possible immigration could harbor Islamic jihadist sympathisers? That's a logical question, isn't it? Edited April 2, 2016 by betsy Quote
betsy Posted April 2, 2016 Author Report Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) Therefore, I do understand the concern being felt by Muslims and why they decided to support Trump in temporary banning of non-citizen Muslims from entering the US. What Trump wants to do is also for their own protection. Trump offers the most logical solution. Edited April 2, 2016 by betsy Quote
cybercoma Posted April 2, 2016 Report Posted April 2, 2016 Logic is not Trump nor his supporters' strong point. Quote
betsy Posted April 2, 2016 Author Report Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) Logic is not Trump nor his supporters' strong point. You're the one who hasn't given any logical answer so far. Knee-jerk opinions don't count in a discussion unless you can explain your position. One-liners aren't always witty response(s), either. In fact, some of us can almost, always, separate the "wheat from the chaff," through one-liners. You've made a bold claim: You would have to be appalling ignorant to not know what's going on. We know what's going on. Security agencies know what's going on. Academics in foreign policy know what's going on. So why hasn't Trump figured it out yet? And I responded to you on post # 57. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/25682-muslims-sikhs-hindus-for-trump/page-4 Since you claim to know what's going on, I've asked you to answer some questions. I'm still waiting for your response. Edited April 2, 2016 by betsy Quote
cybercoma Posted April 3, 2016 Report Posted April 3, 2016 It's not my job to spoon feed you information that's readily available. I have absolutely no interest in answering your questions because I don't believe you discuss things in good faith. Quote
betsy Posted April 3, 2016 Author Report Posted April 3, 2016 (edited) It's not my job to spoon feed you information that's readily available. I have absolutely no interest in answering your questions because I don't believe you discuss things in good faith. Then, whom were you arguing with? I'm the only one actively supporting Trump in this thread? Though you didn't directly quote me, obviously you were trying to give rebuttals to my arguments. You've made a bold claim, Cybercoma..........and I questioned you about it. I directly questioned your claim. You claim to know what's going on, that everyone knows what's going on, except Trump. Now that you've been pointedly challenged to prove your case, how convenient that you suddenly don't want to discuss in "good faith." A drive-by senseless comment without directly quoting the target - is not only a sign of cowardice, but also is a sign that one won't be able to stand by his statement. It's also a sign that one has no intention of discussing in so-called, "good faith." Edited April 3, 2016 by betsy Quote
GostHacked Posted April 3, 2016 Report Posted April 3, 2016 It's also a sign that one has no intention of discussing in so-called, "good faith." Noting your other threads on creationism ect, if you want examples of 'good faith'. Quote
betsy Posted April 4, 2016 Author Report Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) Media says Trump's dropping at the polls in Wisconsin, that Ted Cruz is ahead. They say this is due to Trump's worst week (where he made several controversial statements, which includes his 5 differing position on abortion - ). However, this site says...... TRUMP WINNING IN WISCONSIN POLLS!Out of 50,000 potential voters polled – REAL people of Wisconsin, surveyed by isidewith.com, The Donald leads Lying Ted by 13 points, 34% to 21%. Real Clear Politics poll the LYING MEDIA are relying on shows Cruz leading Trump in four different March 2016 polls, the total survey sample of which is less than 2,400. But if they really did an honest poll like isidewith.com – sampling a large segment like 50,000 people…they wouldn’t be able to play their head games with the public. It is obvious when a hundred or two people show up for a Cruz event, and Trump has filled an auditorium to capacity with thousands and there are thousands more listening outside on an intercom….that what the media is saying does not match what our eyes, ears, and boots on the ground are experiencing!It is getting harder and harder for the crooked establishment pawns and puppet masters to pull these lies and voter fraud off against the masses. https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2016/04/03/trump-winning-in-wisconsin-polls/ I'm chomping at the bit here......to see how it'll turn out. If Trump still wins despite all the statements he'd made - nothing he'll say in the future will ever hurt him at all! Edited April 4, 2016 by betsy Quote
betsy Posted April 5, 2016 Author Report Posted April 5, 2016 (edited) Just look at the crowd at Trump's rallies. How many kids are present? These folks don't look like hooligans to me, either! Wisconsin Trump Rallies Are Much Bigger Than Media Claims CLICK FOR LINK TO VIDEO Edited April 5, 2016 by Michael Hardner ADDED VIDEO LINK Quote
waldo Posted April 5, 2016 Report Posted April 5, 2016 Just look at the crowd at Trump's rallies. How many kids are present? These folks don't look like hooligans to me, either! Alex Jones and infowars! Well done. By the by, considering the title of this thread... your thread, a cursory review of that crowd line-up doesn't show a single person of colour... lots of older white guys though. Care to suggest how many in that line-up align with your thread title highlighting the supposed support of "Muslims, Sikhs, Hindu's"? . Quote
waldo Posted April 5, 2016 Report Posted April 5, 2016 Media says Trump's dropping at the polls in Wisconsin, that Ted Cruz is ahead. They say this is due to Trump's worst week (where he made several controversial statements, which includes his 5 differing position on abortion - ). However, this site says...... I'm chomping at the bit here......to see how it'll turn out. If Trump still wins despite all the statements he'd made - nothing he'll say in the future will ever hurt him at all! the preeminent pollster/analyst, Nate Silver and 538 polling... suggests otherwise: Quote
cybercoma Posted April 5, 2016 Report Posted April 5, 2016 the preeminent pollster/analyst, Nate Silver and 538 polling... suggests otherwise: You seem to be under the mistaken impression that Betsy is persuaded by facts and reason. Maybe try telling her God spoke to you and said Cruz would win. It will get you further. Quote
betsy Posted April 5, 2016 Author Report Posted April 5, 2016 Alex Jones and infowars! Well done. By the by, considering the title of this thread... your thread, a cursory review of that crowd line-up doesn't show a single person of colour... lots of older white guys though. Care to suggest how many in that line-up align with your thread title highlighting the supposed support of "Muslims, Sikhs, Hindu's"? . The point is that, you cannot trust what the media says! Quote
BubberMiley Posted April 5, 2016 Report Posted April 5, 2016 The point is that, you cannot trust what the media says!When Cruz wins, will you concede your source was actually the one lying? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
cybercoma Posted April 5, 2016 Report Posted April 5, 2016 The point is that, you cannot trust what the media says! What makes your sources more trustworthy? Quote
betsy Posted April 5, 2016 Author Report Posted April 5, 2016 When Cruz wins, will you concede your source was actually the one lying? Well, no. Cruz winning, does not necessarily mean my source(s) are lying. The source points out that the attendance at Trump's rallies are high, compared to Cruz, and that another poll actually showed Trump leading. But who knows what goes in the voter's mind when he's right in there filling the ballot. Anything can happen. Quote
betsy Posted April 5, 2016 Author Report Posted April 5, 2016 (edited) What makes your sources more trustworthy? One thing we already know is that left-wing anti-Trump media are dishonest! They've got no credibility. The latest example.....just look at the way they edited the hypothetical question about abortion and punishing women. No one shows the full question when that interview happened. They edited the question. Edited April 5, 2016 by betsy Quote
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