Women Equality in USA Forces

[Big Guy]

For many years, in the USA, every American male turning 18 is required to register for the "draft". Those randomly selected have not had to serve since 1973 but the process is still in place. The Americans have since gone to a volunteer force.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/10/opinions/women-should-register-for-draft-ben-ghiat/

There were many arguments at the time that since women were not expected in combat roles then they should not be drafted. Since then, women are now included in almost all combat roles. There is a movement now in the USA to either drop this registration requirement or to include women in the registration requirement if/when a draft is required to staff American military excursions.

It will affect Canada if/when the USA gets themselves into another useless war, has to revert to the draft as more Americans reject American foreign policy and those draft dodgers flee to Canada for safety. During the Vietnam war, we gained some very good eventual Canadian citizens so now we might get female draft dodgers.

[bush_cheney2004]

For many years, in the USA, every American male turning 18 is required to register for the "draft".

This is not true, as there are some exclusions. I never registered for the Selective Service nor was I required to since I was active duty military at age 17. Incarcerated prisoners, female to male transgenders, some of the disabled, and those in mental health care are also not required to register.

No big deal for draft dodgers, as more Canadians "flee" to the USA each year regardless of any wars or draft. Which is quite amazing considering that the USA has ten times the population as Canada.

[Topaz]

BC do u have a link to that statement?

[bush_cheney2004]

BC do u have a link to that statement?

Yes.

[WestCoastRunner]

No big deal for draft dodgers, as more Canadians "flee" to the USA each year regardless of any wars or draft. Which is quite amazing considering that the USA has ten times the population as Canada.

Why is this amazing?

[Hal 9000]

I don't know the details of US law, I'll let big guy and BC sort that out. But any woman that wants to fight in the military should be able to, and if so, she should be given exactly the same standards and responsibilities to her post that the men have. If that means volunteer so be it, if it means draft eligible - same thing.

[bush_cheney2004]

Why is this amazing?

Because all else being equal, one would expect more people to "flee" from the nation with a much larger population. But more Canadians consistently go to the USA....for all kinds of reasons.

[bush_cheney2004]

I don't know the details of US law, I'll let big guy and BC sort that out.

Congress would have to change the law for Selective Service registration for women to required to register. Political hot potato.

[WestCoastRunner]

Because all else being equal, one would expect more people to "flee" from the nation with a much larger population. But more Canadians consistently go to the USA....for all kinds of reasons.

For one thing, Canada isn't a third world country so they aren't exactly fleeing, are they? Secondly as you suggested, it's for lots of reasons. I still ask, why is this amazing?

[bush_cheney2004]

For one thing, Canada isn't a third world country so they aren't exactly fleeing, are they? Secondly as you suggested, it's for lots of reasons. I still ask, why is this amazing?

Regardless of the cause (e.g. "draft dodging"), they are fleeing for their own reasons. One would expect the nation with a larger population to "flee".

[WestCoastRunner]

Regardless of the cause (e.g. "draft dodging"), they are fleeing for their own reasons. One would expect the nation with a larger population to "flee".

Why so?

[Big Guy]

The concept of a female draft along with male draft is the end result. If the draw is random, then it will end with 50% women and 50% men in the military. Is that acceptable?

I think that most people would disagree.

The rationale seems to be that forcing men who do not want to be in the military is OK but forcing women who do not want to be in the military is not OK.

Or is it?

[bush_cheney2004]

Why so?

Because that's how math works for the two sides of a balanced equation. Obviously the equation is not balanced, and more Canadians flee south.

With respect to military service, more Canadians actually joined the U.S. military as well compared to the opposite.

[bush_cheney2004]

The concept of a female draft along with male draft is the end result. If the draw is random, then it will end with 50% women and 50% men in the military. Is that acceptable?

No, as there would still be more males in the draft pool. Women would also not be drafted if pregnant, reducing numbers further.

[WestCoastRunner]

Because that's how math works for the two sides of a balanced equation. Obviously the equation is not balanced, and more Canadians flee south.

With respect to military service, more Canadians actually joined the U.S. military as well compared to the opposite.

What a silly answer.

[bush_cheney2004]

What a silly answer.

So it is expected that more Canadians would "flee" to the USA compared to Americans "fleeing" to Canada because of a war draft or other reasons ?

[WestCoastRunner]

So it is expected that more Canadians would "flee" to the USA compared to Americans "fleeing" to Canada because of a war draft or other reasons ?

I really don't understand your point? What is it you are trying to say?

[bush_cheney2004]

I really don't understand your point? What is it you are trying to say?

I was responding mostly to the OP with respect to more American "draft dodgers" fleeing to Canada, when in reality, and irrespective of any military draft, it is actually more Canadians who flee to the United States. Always have....

[WestCoastRunner]

I was responding mostly to the OP with respect to more American "draft dodgers" fleeing to Canada, when in reality, and irrespective of any military draft, it is actually more Canadians who flee to the United States. Always have....

Draft dodgers are different from other cases. Why would you try and draw a parallel?

[bush_cheney2004]

Draft dodgers are different from other cases. Why would you try and draw a parallel?

Why are draft dodgers different ? They are responding to or escaping from (i.e. "fleeing") some domestic policy or circumstance, just like any other.

[WestCoastRunner]

Why are draft dodgers different ? They are responding to or escaping from (i.e. "fleeing") some domestic policy or circumstance, just like any other.

I still don't get your point with the op. Perhaps I'm slow on the uptake.

[bush_cheney2004]

I still don't get your point with the op. Perhaps I'm slow on the uptake.

The OP suggests that more male and female draft dodgers would flee to Canada a la the Vietnam War. My point is that Canadians have been "fleeing" to the USA for decades without any military draft, so what's the big deal ?

[WestCoastRunner]

The OP suggests that more male and female draft dodgers would flee to Canada a la the Vietnam War. My point is that Canadians have been "fleeing" to the USA for decades without any military draft, so what's the big deal ?

I certainly agree. What's the big deal.

[cybercoma]

This is not true, as there are some exclusions. I never registered for the Selective Service nor was I required to since I was active duty military at age 17. Incarcerated prisoners, female to male transgenders, some of the disabled, and those in mental health care are also not required to register. No big deal for draft dodgers, as more Canadians "flee" to the USA each year regardless of any wars or draft. Which is quite amazing considering that the USA has ten times the population as Canada.

Transgender is not a noun.

[Guest]

Give it time. Impact wasn't a verb when I was a lad.