bush_cheney2004 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Omni said: I doubt Trumps little piss ant 500 jobs at Carrier will speak anywhere near as loud as OPEC cutting over a million bbl/day. Neither are as significant as Trump's plans for fiscal policy (spending) in the U.S. and corporate tax cuts. Wall Street and oil prices diverged even before Trump was elected. OPEC ain't what it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Neither are as significant as Trump's plans for fiscal policy (spending) in the U.S. and corporate tax cuts. Wall Street and oil prices diverged even before Trump was elected. OPEC ain't what it used to be. Corp. tax cuts and huge spending. Isn't your debt big enough for you yet? And before you try to dismiss OPEC look what their announcement did to the price of oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Omni said: Corp. tax cuts and huge spending. Isn't your debt big enough for you yet? And before you try to dismiss OPEC look what their announcement did to the price of oil. All OPEC has done is to turn U.S. shale production back on high. OPEC no longer has the leverage (only about 30% of world production). I've been objecting to the debt growth since 1992, but more Americans want their guns AND butter. Edited December 6, 2016 by bush_cheney2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: All OPEC has done is to turn U.S. shale production back on high. I've been objecting to the debt growth since 1992, but more Americans want their guns AND butter. Well we can all see what the guns have done for y'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Omni said: Well we can all see what the guns have done for y'all. So far so good....the U.S. is not begging to get military aircraft from OPEC...or Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: So far so good....the U.S. is not begging to get military aircraft from OPEC...or Canada. No but Lock Mart is begging the US taxpayer to pay for a rather dubious military aircraft. We'll just take a few units of what we already know works not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, Omni said: No but Lock Mart is begging the US taxpayer to pay for a rather dubious military aircraft. We'll just take a few units of what we already know works not bad. U.S. taxpayers paid for those too. Several OPEC members and Canada like to go shopping for military aircraft in the USA.....have done so for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: U.S. taxpayers paid for those too. Several OPEC members and Canada like to go shopping for military aircraft in the USA.....have done so for decades. And it will be interesting to see what comes of the upcoming open competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, Omni said: And it will be interesting to see what comes of the upcoming open competition. Upcoming = 5 years...maybe. Another U.S. election cycle will be done before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Upcoming = 5 years...maybe. Another U.S. election cycle will be done before that. Hopefully for your sake, the damage Trump will do by that time will be somehow correctable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, Omni said: Hopefully for your sake, the damage Trump will do by that time will be somehow correctable. It matters more to Canada than me....Canada's economy is very dependent on the U.S. That's why Justin Trudeau said the U.S. is so important....matters so much to Canada. Trump will have successes and failures, just like any president. Just another election.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: It matters more to Canada than me....Canada's economy is very dependent on the U.S. That's why Justin Trudeau said the U.S. is so important....matters so much to Canada. Trump will have successes and failures, just like any president. Just another election.... No, it matters more to you than it does us. That should be obvious to any American. He's your leader and so far he's kind of made the country a bit of a laughing stock. Perhaps he will be guided to come around before he has to entertain or be entertained by world leaders. I can imagine a lot of them, besides Putin, are not looking forward to the day they have to come face to face with "the hair" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, Omni said: No, it matters more to you than it does us. That should be obvious to any American. He's your leader and so far he's kind of made the country a bit of a laughing stock. Perhaps he will be guided to come around before he has to entertain or be entertained by world leaders. I can imagine a lot of them, besides Putin, are not looking forward to the day they have to come face to face with "the hair" I got no beef with Putin....he's much more competent than Justin Trudeau....except for selfies. Trump can't make things any worse than existing illegals, wars, zero interest rates, and Yuuuge deficit spending by previous presidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: I got no beef with Putin....he's much more competent than Justin Trudeau....except for selfies. Trump can't make things any worse than existing illegals, wars, zero interest rates, and Yuuuge deficit spending by previous presidents. Putin competent? now there's a joke. He's a dictator he doesn't need to be competent. And he likes to take selfies flexing his muscles with his shirt off, but nobody seems to want to get in the frame with him. According to trump's plan, you will see the deficit's getting much, much yuuuuger. That's OK, I'm sure you won't mind opening your wallet to further enrichen the one percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, Omni said: Putin competent? now there's a joke. He's a dictator he doesn't need to be competent. And he likes to take selfies flexing his muscles with his shirt off, but nobody seems to want to get in the frame with him. According to trump's plan, you will see the deficit's getting much, much yuuuuger. That's OK, I'm sure you won't mind opening your wallet to further enrichen the one percent. Putin is much more important than Canada's lightweight Justin Trudeau and his family's love affair with a dead Cuban dictator. The U.S. will always have deficits..Trump or no Trump. The U.S. has a much higher credit limit than Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Putin is much more important than Canada's lightweight Justin Trudeau and his family's love affair with a dead Cuban dictator. The U.S. will always have deficits..Trump or no Trump. The U.S. has a much higher credit limit than Canada. So Russian dictators are OK, but Cuban ones are not. Got ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, Omni said: So Russian dictators are OK, but Cuban ones are not. Got ya. Yep....the Trudeau's picked the lesser dictator. President-Elect Trump knows that Russia's Putin matters a lot more today. Several U.S. presidents had far better relations with Soviet/Russian "dictators" compared to Castro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Yep....the Trudeau's picked the lesser dictator. President-Elect Trump knows that Russia's Putin matters a lot more today. Several U.S. presidents had far better relations with Soviet/Russian "dictators" compared to Castro. You are aware of the details of the Cuban missile crisis, and where the missile came from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, Omni said: You are aware of the details of the Cuban missile crisis, and where the missile came from? JFK solved the problem with Khrushchev, not Castro. Remember what Trump has learned in business...always deal with the top boss. Canada's own DND ignored Diefenbaker and followed JFK to DEFCON 3....Trump's rule proven again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 And this is getting off topic but I hasten to add, don't get in any great hurry to tear down the barriers against tourism to Cuba. I think most of uc Canucks who have holidayed there prefer things the way they are. You know, that "American tourist" concept that many of us understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: JFK solved the problem with Khrushchev, not Castro. Remember what Trump has learned in business...always deal with the top boss. Canada's own DND ignored Diefenbaker and followed JFK to DEFCON 3....Trump's rule proven again. So you do understand who actually placed the missile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, Omni said: So you do understand who actually placed the missile. Guess who placed Jupiter missiles in Turkey ? Trump will be running a world superpower, not grab assing around with Cuba or trying to find Trudeau a safe space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Guess who placed Jupiter missiles in Turkey ? Trump will be running a world superpower, not grab assing around with Cuba or trying to find Trudeau a safe space. Trump will be grab assing around with Putin. Nobody else wants to deal with him. Maybe he will take a hairpiece over to Vladi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Omni said: And this is getting off topic but I hasten to add, don't get in any great hurry to tear down the barriers against tourism to Cuba. I think most of uc Canucks who have holidayed there prefer things the way they are. You know, that "American tourist" concept that many of us understand. No problem....more Canadian snowbirds will still be going to the U.S. each year because they have issues with Canadian weather. Trump will want those snowbirds and visa overstay illegals to leave on time, or get a free trip to Cuba ('Gitmo). Edited December 6, 2016 by bush_cheney2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, Omni said: Trump will be grab assing around with Putin. Nobody else wants to deal with him. Maybe he will take a hairpiece over to Vladi. Trump could share some hair with Putin. Both know that Trudeau is a bit player who can't even figure out new "jets". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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