Trudeau's Committment to Syrian Refugees - 25,000 by Year End

WestCoastRunner · January 27, 2016

Who cares. Will these "free services" cover a fraction of the expected costs? Where were these "free services" with countless first nations/homeless/poverty/seniors/veterans groups crying crisis and lacking in funding?

We are talking about refugees. I have stated in the past that Canadians don't give two fu..ks about First Nations. Why would they start now.

Derek 2.0 · January 27, 2016

We are talking about refugees. I have stated in the past that Canadians don't give two fu..ks about First Nations. Why would they start now.

I know, and my sister's school district had to hire an Iraqi translator (out of additional funding earmarked from the previous teachers and CUPE strike), when there is far more need for TA's for developmental children and aboriginal support workers.......Trudeau Liberals have yet to announce new money for Provinces, as such, the added costs for these refugees will come from something else.

Pretty bad when we have people living in tents blocks away from BC Legislature, First Nations living in third world conditions across the country, single parent families living in one room rentals well waiting for housing etc, but we have money to put Syrians up in hotels in Canada's largest cities.....

WestCoastRunner · January 27, 2016

I know, and my sister's school district had to hire an Iraqi translator (out of additional funding earmarked from the previous teachers and CUPE strike), when there is far more need for TA's for developmental children and aboriginal support workers.......Trudeau Liberals have yet to announce new money for Provinces, as such, the added costs for these refugees will come from something else.

Pretty bad when we have people living in tents blocks away from BC Legislature, First Nations living in third world conditions across the country, single parent families living in one room rentals well waiting for housing etc, but we have money to put Syrians up in hotels in Canada's largest cities.....

We do not have to turn our backs on refugees in order to help Canadians. This is a misconception that is perpetuated by islamaphobes.

Derek 2.0 · January 27, 2016

We do not have to turn our backs on refugees in order to help Canadians.

Funny, we seem to be doing a pretty piss poor job helping Canadians........and we have Syrians living in Hotels complaining about services afforded to them, saying they had it better in camps in Jordan......

This is a misconception that is perpetuated by islamaphobes.

No, realists. We only have a finite amount of money, and Syrians shouldn't skip to the front of the line over needy Canadians, namely when we have Syrians here now complaining about trivial things and wanting to return to the Middle East.

WestCoastRunner · January 27, 2016

Funny, we seem to be doing a pretty piss poor job helping Canadians........and we have Syrians living in Hotels complaining about services afforded to them, saying they had it better in camps in Jordan......

No, realists. We only have a finite amount of money, and Syrians shouldn't skip to the front of the line over needy Canadians, namely when we have Syrians here now complaining about trivial things and wanting to return to the Middle East.

Do you think that Syrian refugees should have no acceptable level of acceptance? They are not robots. They are human beings, just like us, and our First Nations citizens. Hmmm.

Derek 2.0 · January 27, 2016

Do you think that Syrian refugees should have no acceptable level of acceptance? They are not robots. They are human beings, just like us, and our First Nations citizens. Hmmm.

Huh? That makes no sense........or about as much sense as Trudeau's policy. Let me know when Trudeau will start funding his feel good promises.

WestCoastRunner · January 27, 2016

Funny, we seem to be doing a pretty piss poor job helping Canadians........and we have Syrians living in Hotels complaining about services afforded to them, saying they had it better in camps in Jordan......

No, realists. We only have a finite amount of money, and Syrians shouldn't skip to the front of the line over needy Canadians, namely when we have Syrians here now complaining about trivial things and wanting to return to the Middle East.

I can't argue against your beliefs. You will believe what you will. I can only post about my belief in humankind and supporting these Syrian refugees.

We have troubling problems with global refugee crisis and I would not want Canada to step away and leave the issues to European countries. This is an international issue. We have no right to step away

Derek 2.0 · January 27, 2016

We have troubling problems with global refugee crisis and I would not want Canada to step away and leave the issues to European countries. This is an international issue. We have no right to step away

I have no qualms with private sponsorship, and I'd have no real issues with Government sponsored refugees, once we've addressed the Third World conditions many of the First Nations live in, likewise, affordable housing/services for low-income Canadians (1/3 rd being seniors).

Charity starts at home.........not by putting Syrians up in hotels, some complaining they received better treatment in camps in Jordan (and want to go back), and draining the finite public resources......resources that will be further stretched with the downturn in the economy.

We can step-up by sending aid (at a fraction of the cost) to the refugee camps in the Middle East, where some of these refugees had claimed they received better treatment.

Hydraboss · January 27, 2016

Do you think that Syrian refugees should have no acceptable level of acceptance? They are not robots. They are human beings, just like us, and our First Nations citizens. Hmmm.

They are freeloaders that I am paying for. They have exactly zero rights to Canadian money.

Hydraboss · January 27, 2016

...I would not want Canada to step away and leave the issues to European countries. This is an international issue. We have no right to step away

We have every right. And so do European countries. Have you noticed the news headlines about those same countries requiring refugees to hand over everything they have worth $2k or more (less in some countries)?? Canada should be doing exactly the same thing.

Hydraboss · January 27, 2016

We do not have to turn our backs on refugees in order to help Canadians. This is a misconception that is perpetuated by islamaphobes.

No, this is a belief held by tax paying Canadians that are frustrated with donating time and money to charities to help CANADIANS just to watch Mr Sunni Ways bypass CANADIANS in favor of economic refugees.

Hydraboss · January 27, 2016

There have been plenty of announcements of organizations offering free services for the very Items you are throwing out. Why are you denying those?

And are those "organizations" offering to pay all the associated health care costs for these economic refugees as well? How about food? Hotel bills? Transportation costs? Schooling costs for their kids? Last time I checked, my municipal taxes were about half made up of school taxes to educate CANADIAN citizens. Where are these refugees getting clothing? Who's paying the electricity bill for all that smartphone charging?

Hydraboss · January 27, 2016

Oh, and people can stuff the "islamaphobe" crap. I'd feel the exact same way if we brought in 25,000 white guys from Alabama. I'm sure it would be exactly the same in reverse (as it should be).

jacee · January 27, 2016

We should not fund housing federally at all. Let the municipalities do their job for once instead of sniveling about a lack of resources.

Really?

I thought you'd be saying 'If Justin wants refugees, he can house them!

Don't dump the problem on my town/taxes!'

Obviously, there is a federal role in housing.

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jacee · January 27, 2016

Pretty bad when we have people living in tents blocks away from BC Legislature, First Nations living in third world conditions across the country, single parent families living in one room rentals well waiting for housing etc, but we have money to put Syrians up in hotels in Canada's largest cities.....

I didn't notice before that you had such concern for them.

What have you done to help?

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Hydraboss · January 27, 2016

Paid taxes. Lots of them.

waldo · January 27, 2016

And are those "organizations" offering to pay all the associated health care costs for these economic refugees as well? How about food? Hotel bills? Transportation costs? Schooling costs for their kids? Last time I checked, my municipal taxes were about half made up of school taxes to educate CANADIAN citizens. Where are these refugees getting clothing? Who's paying the electricity bill for all that smartphone charging?

what gives you the foundation to declare them "economic refugees"? Those costs you're so concerned about reflect upon the government acting on humanitarian principals and positioning Canada accordingly within the community of like-minded nations.

Smallc · January 27, 2016

Why would one expect that economic refugees would have assets for government to seize?

capricorn · January 27, 2016

Funny, we seem to be doing a pretty piss poor job helping Canadians........and we have Syrians living in Hotels complaining about services afforded to them, saying they had it better in camps in Jordan......

At least one Canadian in that hotel in Toronto has been asked to leave to make room for more refugees.

Hotel resident Brian McIssac said that seeing them move on could help him too, since the hotel has asked him to vacate the room he’s lived in for a year and a half.

“Why did Mr. Trudeau bring in all these people and start throwing out Canadians, into the street?” he said, adding other residents have also been asked to move.

“I have nothing against these people, but why should we have to leave?”

The owner of the hotel restaurant said she too would like to see the refugees find permanent housing as soon as possible.

Manjit Sangh said her regular customers have stopped coming and that she has not been compensated.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/600-refugees-crammed-into-toronto-hotel-despite-waiting-sponsors-1.2753568

Trudeau Jr. better find a solution to this festering problem soon or there will be trouble. The whole refugee question will blow up in his face.

Smallc · January 27, 2016

Trudeau Jr. better find a solution to this festering problem soon or there will be trouble. The whole refugee question will blow up in his face.

Yeah, he probably lost that one guy's vote.

capricorn · January 27, 2016

Yeah, he probably lost that one guy's vote.

A mother of three told CityNews that when she went to pay the hotel her weekly $300 payment, they told her she had to leave that day. She’s been living at the Toronto Plaza for the last six months. She claims to have been allowed another night’s stay, but it took some begging to win that reprieve.

“For them to do this is not fair,” she added. “These people (refugees) are getting three meals a day? What about us?”

http://www.640toronto.com/2016/01/27/oakley-491/

That's two votes lost.

Derek 2.0 · January 27, 2016

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/600-refugees-crammed-into-toronto-hotel-despite-waiting-sponsors-1.2753568

Trudeau Jr. better find a solution to this festering problem soon or there will be trouble. The whole refugee question will blow up in his face.

Without a doubt.

waldo · January 27, 2016

That's two votes lost.

Without a doubt.

oh my! Just look at that ConservativePC 'market dictates' philosophy being shelved in order to further pick away at the refugee program! My understanding is that bidders on the contracts must guarantee a set number of rooms - which becomes a contractual aspect. So the onus here is on the motel/hotel owners - they are the ones anxious to realize the bid/gain the contract. C'mon Conservative supporters - ain't that the 'free enterprise market driven' thingee you're all about?

jacee · January 27, 2016

Paid taxes. Lots of them.

Then you must be very 'comfortable'.

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.policyalternatives.ca/sites/default/files/uploads/publications/National_Office_Pubs/2005/btn7_5_Tax_Paid_By_the_Rich.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiE9q-YocrKAhXHtIMKHU9JAegQFgggMAM&usg=AFQjCNHEcXq38JA6GJRb2NHA0A32mZDpnw&sig2=0-u2jrb2aE0wQh5GHPljFQ

Income tax makes up less than 40% of the taxes

individuals pay, and it is the only progressive tax they

pay. All other taxes paid by Canadians are regressive,

including the GST, retail sales taxes, property taxes,

excise taxes on cigarettes, liquor and lottery tickets,

and payroll taxes for financing the Canadian Pension

Plan and Employment Insurance. These taxes take

their biggest bite, proportionally, from lower-income

Canadians.

capricorn · January 27, 2016

Another long term resident of the Plaza Hotel speaks out.

Garnet Fulton says he’s been living at the hotel for several months with his wife and two-year-old daughter.

He pays $1100 a month for a small room.

Fulton says he received a notice on Monday saying he had until Friday to leave.

The notice read: “We will no longer be facilitating any extended stay guests as hotel operations have evolved to meet growing demands.”

Fulton also believes he’s being pushed out to accommodate Syrian refugees.

“I asked if I could stay until the first (of the month) to look for a place and they said no.

http://www.680news.com/2016/01/26/exclusive-residents-at-toronto-hotel-say-theyre-being-booted-for-syrian-refugees/

But not to worry. Our Immigration Minister is on the case.

When asked if residents were being displaced by refugees, Immigration Minister John McCallum said it’s the first he’s heard of it.

“I was entirely unaware of that,” he said. “I will look into it…but I had not heard that before.”

Perhaps the Minister should have been on top things a lot sooner. Like, following up on how things are going with those hundreds of Syrian refugees housed in the Plaza Hotel and whether unintended problems have arisen.