Argus Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 I like new ideas. Has it been done before? Conditional refugee status ? The courts would never accept it. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 First of all it seems you're assuming that refugees will continue to be a burden indefinitely. That is the likelihood. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 And we have Muslim rapists and murderers and drug dealers, as well. Much of the violent crime in Ottawa seems to be done by guys named Mohamed, though the authorities will not give us crime stats on race or religion. Why do you make a statement and then turn round and contradict it? Could bigotry affect peoples assumptions. Quote
Argus Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 It is not I who brought up pedophiles as a way to compare the risk of Syrian refugees. Terrorists are extremely unlikely to be embedded within the terrorists, despite Daesh's desire that we believe so. It simply doesn't make sense on a few different levels. That does not mean they do not have the religious and ideological views which make them prone to supporting or becoming terrorists. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 That does not mean they do not have the religious and ideological views which make them prone to supporting or becoming terrorists. Nor does it mean they do. Quote
eyeball Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 It shows.Your miscomprehension is really quaint. Just get off the boat did you? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Guest Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 Your miscomprehension is really quaint. Just get off the boat did you? My miscomprehension is deliberate. Did you? Quote
eyeball Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 Ok so you do understand what I'm talking about. Now quit seducing the canine and either address what I'm saying or go echo your anti-Muslim crap to someone who cares. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Guest Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 Ok so you do understand what I'm talking about. Now quit seducing the canine and either address what I'm saying or go echo your anti-Muslim crap to someone who cares. I understood what you were talking about. My deliberate misapprehension was a device to point out your hypocrisy. It seemed more fun than just saying, "don't talk wet, you're the one with their hard wired illusions being challenged". Just so you're not confused anymore. The hard wired illusion: Anyone who finds fault with the awful things that some Muslims do is automatically finding fault with all of them. They just are! But don't worry. You're sure not alone. Quote
Rue Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 Let's not beat around the bush. It now appears the Liberals will select women, children and gays but no men coming alone. Wow. One could not have more blatant proof of what a joke trendy lefist bleeding heart liberals are. Not only do they discriminate against all refugees except Syrians but now they will discriminate against single heterosexual men supposedly. Lol. You just have to laugh at the idiocy, the sheer discriminatory absurdity of their trying to be oh so nice. Right, now what exactly is the test for being gay. Yah yah I know, Justin will do that one on one in a room when they come to Canada. Bottom line. The Liberals are a pathetic joke. Screening is about an objective criteria. The idiocy, the sheer idiocy of thinking terrorists can't be children or women or gays is mind boggling. So is the sheer idiocy of discriminating against single men who may be that way because their families all were killed or they were separated. Proper screening process means a proper security screening not some puffy sheltered idiot in Canada with ridiculous stereotypes panicking and dumping refugees in falling apart army barracks. What a joke. A bloody joke that comes down to having to appease the narcissistic fantasies of Lord Faunteroy Justin of Trudeau. Quote
eyeball Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 I understood what you were talking about. My deliberate misapprehension was a device to point out your hypocrisy.What hypocrisy? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Big Guy Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) It would be interesting to see the priority list of criteria our government uses when making decisions on immigrants as opposed to those for refugees. I would assume that for refugees (those seeking refuge) it would be the most vulnerable to the least vulnerable. That would be the orphaned, oldest and sick (handicapped) to families with mothers only to women to two parent families to single healthy men. The challenge with this process is that all would require initial government financial support and only the last three categories could be expected to become self sufficient. With immigration, I believe that the chance of assimilation is the top priority. That would be those who have skills that are currently needed etc. I have been told that there are 4 million refugees in that area to choose from. It will be interesting to see what the priority (or combination of such) our government will use to choose the lucky 25,000. Edited November 24, 2015 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Keepitsimple Posted November 24, 2015 Author Report Posted November 24, 2015 I've said it before but it seems to fall on deaf ears. The thought is that young people are drawn to terrorism because they are marginalized, disenfranchised, etc. 1) Many of our First Nations people could and have made the same claim - yet they have not resorted to wanton mayhem, suicide bombings, decapitations and heinous murder of innocent civilians including women and children. 2) Black Americans could and have made the same claim for a hundred years and more - yet they have not resorted in any degree to wanton mayhem, suicide bombings, decapitations and heinous murder of innocent civilians including women and children. 3) Other minorities could easily fall into the same category - yet they have not resorted to wanton mayhem, suicide bombings, decapitations and heinous murder of innocent civilians including women and children. So it's not exclusion. It's not about being disenfranchised. It's not about poverty. The common thread to terrorism is a perversion of Islam. This contorted view is the "enabler" of terrorism - and the "seed" of terrorism lurks within those that occupy the severest edges of Islam - and those that can be influenced (radicalized) to move along the continuum to that end. And the end of that continuum has been made clear - wanton mayhem, suicide bombings, decapitations and heinous murder of innocent civilians including women and children. Without Extreme Islam, there would be no terrorism of the extreme, inhumane continuous form that we witness today. As Europe struggles with the results of their immigration policies, Canadians are right to beckon the government to proceed thoughtfully - and not be driven by artificial timelines. Quote Back to Basics
eyeball Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 Without Extreme Islam, there would be no terrorism of the extreme, inhumane continuous form that we witness today.Yes well, without us provoking it, extreme Islam would have stayed as rare as Christian extremism. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Guest Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 What hypocrisy? Are you alright? It's right there in the post. Quote
Argus Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 Nor does it mean they do. On the other hand, if we brought in refugees from Portugal or Italy we wouldn't have to worry. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Smallc Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) I like this: This is the greatest country on earth. Now let it bring out the greatest in you. http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/2015/11/23/welcome-to-canada-refugees-menon.html Edited November 24, 2015 by Smallc Quote
Argus Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 Yes well, without us provoking it, extreme Islam would have stayed as rare as Christian extremism. When has Islam ever been content to stay where it was if it had the power to expand? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 I like this: This is the greatest country on earth. Now let it bring out the greatest in you. http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/2015/11/23/welcome-to-canada-refugees-menon.html I'm glad you're feeling all noble. How much are you personally willing to pay to support these refugees for the next twenty years or so? Willing to give up that trip of yours, perhaps? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
eyeball Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 Are you alright? It's right there in the post.Show me. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 When has Islam ever been content to stay where it was if it had the power to expand?1842. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Guest Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 Show me. I'm sorry, but I'm a grown up. If you want to answer the post, go ahead, if not, don't. I don't care one way or the other. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 On the other hand, if we brought in refugees from Portugal or Italy we wouldn't have to worry.Right. You've heard of the mafia have you? Quote
Guest Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 Right. You've heard of the mafia have you? Oh that has to be a microaggression! Referee!!! Quote
poochy Posted November 24, 2015 Report Posted November 24, 2015 http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/wynne-slammed-over-racism-remarks-and-other-reasons-to-fear-for-humanity Even Ujal Dosanjh is a racist for questioning the time line, you either completely agree, or you're a racist, or a bigot. Quote
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