Biz Liz Posted October 5, 2015 Report Posted October 5, 2015 Whoever wins the election should charge all foreign visitors a $100 entrance tax per every month they remain in Canada unless and until they leave or become a resident. This money could then subsidize our school system which has been getting way too many budget cuts. Our kids need to come first. What say you all? Quote
Machjo Posted October 5, 2015 Report Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) No. That money would go towards skills training for people who lose their jobs in the tourism industry as a result of this. Also, let's not forget reciprocity. We do that to others, their governments will likely reciprocate the deed. Edited October 5, 2015 by Machjo Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
Machjo Posted October 5, 2015 Report Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) What I do support though are fuel taxes and airport security taxes to make the air travelers pay for their own airport security. I could support a break-even exit and entrance fee for all at border crossings to cover the cost of border crossings. But the idea of charging foreigners only while exempting Candians sounds like fishing for a handout or a desire to be milked from the foreign tourist tit. Edited October 5, 2015 by Machjo Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
ToadBrother Posted October 5, 2015 Report Posted October 5, 2015 No. That money would go towards skills training for people who lose their jobs in the tourism industry as a result of this. Also, let's not forget reciprocity. We do that to others, their governments will likely reciprocate the deed. How would you even collect this fee? I suspect the regime required to keep track of foreign visitors would eat up every nickel of the money being collected. Quote
The_Squid Posted October 5, 2015 Report Posted October 5, 2015 Whoever wins the election should charge all foreign visitors a $100 entrance tax per every month they remain in Canada unless and until they leave or become a resident. This money could then subsidize our school system which has been getting way too many budget cuts. Our kids need to come first. What say you all? Bad idea. Would only hurt our tourist industry with limited financial gains to be made. A 2% increase in GST would bring billions with limited bad effects. A $100 fee would bring in millions with huge negative effects as people stay away from our country because of it. Quote
angrypenguin Posted October 5, 2015 Report Posted October 5, 2015 Bad idea. Would only hurt our tourist industry with limited financial gains to be made. A 2% increase in GST would bring billions with limited bad effects. A $100 fee would bring in millions with huge negative effects as people stay away from our country because of it. I disagree with you re: GST. An increase in consumption sales tax is that it affects the poor much more than the rich. Quote My views are my own and not those of my employer.
ToadBrother Posted October 5, 2015 Report Posted October 5, 2015 I disagree with you re: GST. An increase in consumption sales tax is that it affects the poor much more than the rich. So you increase the size of the GST rebate cheque, and increase its frequency. Quote
The_Squid Posted October 5, 2015 Report Posted October 5, 2015 I disagree with you re: GST. An increase in consumption sales tax is that it affects the poor much more than the rich. OK... change it to increasing income taxes on the wealthy and eliminating "boutique" tax subsidies for people to buy their votes. I'm alright with that too. But charging visitors a head-tax? Dumb idea. Quote
angrypenguin Posted October 5, 2015 Report Posted October 5, 2015 OK... change it to increasing income taxes on the wealthy and eliminating "boutique" tax subsidies for people to buy their votes. I'm alright with that too. But charging visitors a head-tax? Dumb idea. I never said charging visitors a head tax was ever a good idea. Quote My views are my own and not those of my employer.
angrypenguin Posted October 5, 2015 Report Posted October 5, 2015 So you increase the size of the GST rebate cheque, and increase its frequency. How does the poor (the truly poor) even get a GST rebate cheque. You think they even file income taxes?? Quote My views are my own and not those of my employer.
Smallc Posted October 5, 2015 Report Posted October 5, 2015 How does the poor (the truly poor) even get a GST rebate cheque. You think they even file income taxes?? If they have kids they certainly do...if they want their child tax payments. Quote
angrypenguin Posted October 5, 2015 Report Posted October 5, 2015 If they have kids they certainly do...if they want their child tax payments. "the truly poor" were my exact words. Quote My views are my own and not those of my employer.
The_Squid Posted October 5, 2015 Report Posted October 5, 2015 "the truly poor" were my exact words. So there are no "truly poor" people with children? Quote
nerve Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Whoever wins the election should charge all foreign visitors a $100 entrance tax per every month they remain in Canada unless and until they leave or become a resident. This money could then subsidize our school system which has been getting way too many budget cuts. Our kids need to come first. What say you all? I'd say that monetizing travel and immigration is not a bad idea per se, however, it really has nothing to do with money to the education system, as they are two different levels of government. If it goes to anything it should go to airlines and other transit to reduce usage costs for domestic travelers and people traveling outside of Canada, i.e the security markups, as well as cost of running refugee programs etc.. Education costs could be reduced other ways. Its fairly clear though that they will only continue to rise due to strong teacher's unions who in effect are the ones who are saying how education will be delivered by placing red lines on what conditions they are willing to teach in. Really though the education system is a joke and it will remain that way because it isn't geared towards what is really needed it is geared more to institutionalizing and indoctrinating the youth to political agendas. Its shameful really. The whole system is horribly implemented. Its funded daycare to a propaganda outlet. It should be called the Indoctrination while you wageslave system. This would take away the false premise of actual education being performed within schools in Canada. They achieve so little for what they are sucking up, much like healthcare in Canada. They should just fund liposuction and stomach stapling and take away 50% of the health dollar drain. Wherever money is extorted it should be put right back in to improve services related to those things, not peter and pauling. Tax and Spend is shameful. The only areas that should have money raised is those that are essential. Education is not. People will pay to educate their children. If they don't then they shouldn't expect anything but essential education not all this fantasy land for youth. The direction is totally wrong, we don't need more cushion and gravy training for the youth, they should be subjected to bare bones programming and essential education based on literacy and math and physical education, and given a certain amount of time for self directed learning mandatorily so they can learn how to learn instead of being idiots who regurgitate what they are told to think. The only tests that are needed are literacy and math, everything else is secondary. If they want science or music let them pay for the materials. There is just so much money being dumped down the drain on training youth totally useful concepts and facts instead of teaching them what they need to learn to survive and teaching them how to learn so they can progress with studies in life. Way too much already spent, its the way the system is delivered, it is a horrible system and it is a failure. Its a provincial responsibility not a federal one. If you want to fund any aspect of education fund post secondary studies make it free, let the children's parents pay for primary and secondary education, and pay for the people who make it through who can really contribute through furthering their education when they are on their own. We have home schooled students who's education is the cost of school supplies. Why the hell are we spending billions on daycare for other peoples kids. They will pay for school instead of daycare if it costs the same anyway. let the parents pay for their kids daycare not tourists. Its understandable of needing to pay for unemployed peoples way, if they are taking part in reintegration programs, but let people with money pay-- and don't tax for it.. tax is a way of letting the government waste peoples money, the more direct program payments the less waste and embezzlement and misallocation of those resources. the government thinks it is ok to spend money on any stupid idea they have, that is why you should never elect for general taxation EVER, they are people who couldn't make it in the private sector, then you have them manage something - no. Bottom line - introduce fees to pay for the cost of policing immigrants and providing them services, but no, don't tax them for your kids education. Much the same as I shouldn't be paying to police immigrants and provide them with services. Get the money from where it is going, stop the peter and pauling. The only time it should be taken from somewhere else is if it is essential and there is nothing to take. Edited October 7, 2015 by nerve Quote
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