Canada_First Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Syria Muslims are largely raised to hate Jews and Israel. How are those attitudes going to enrich Canada? We don't need antisemites here. We don't need another Hitler. Let's keep Canada clean. This should be seriously worrying to all Canadians. Edited September 14, 2015 by Canada_First Quote
Scotty Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 Why is it so hard to get xenophobes to understand the basics you point out here I wonder? Gosh, I dunno. You do your best to call them names. I would have thought that would be convincing. Maybe you can come up with less generic insults and that would be more convincing. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
Scotty Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 I'm assuming you're talking about the Pakistani guys in Rotherham, England that bigots and racists reference frequently in order to paint all Muslims as rapists and degenerates. Did you hear about the latest pedophile case in England, involving these guys - Let me know if they represent white guys: I swear that when I saw this story I knew some apologist for Muslim misogyni would be eagerly grabbing it and waving it frantically in the air. Yes, this group of paedophiles met over the internet and were involved in depraved things. No one has ever suggested white people don't commit crimes. However, the Pakistani guys in Rotherham you're referring to are hardly a singular group. Many such Muslim groups have been arrested in the last year across the UK, and government studies have suggested the number of sexual assaults of young girls which the authorities glossed over because they didn't want to make accusations against Muslims could be in the tens of thousands, and several hundred Muslim rapists have been identified so far. How did it happen? People like you allowed it to happen. A story of rampant child abuse—ignored and abetted by the police—is emerging out of the British town of Rotherham. Until now, its scale and scope would have been inconceivable in a civilized country. Its origins, however, lie in something quite ordinary: what one Labour MP called “not wanting to rock the multicultural community. The latest report, from Professor Alexis Jay, former chief inspector of social work in Scotland, gives the truth for the first time, in 153 disturbing pages. One fact stands out above all the horrors detailed in the document, which is that the girl victims were white, and their abusers Pakistani. http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerscruton/2014/08/30/why-did-british-police-ignore-pakistani-gangs-raping-rotherham-children-political-correctness/ Rotherham was hardly the only place. It was just the one which came to light first. Nearly 400 British girls as young as eleven are believed to have been sexually exploited by Muslim rape gangs in Oxfordshire over the past 15 years, according to a chilling new report. It charges local officials with repeatedly ignoring the abuse due to a "culture of denial." Again, all the victims are white. All the perpetrators are Muslim immigrants. A similar story unfolded in nearby Rochdale, where police arrested nine Muslim men for sexually abusing dozens of young girls in 2012. The rapes were brutal; one teen recounted at a trial being raped by two men while she was “so drunk she was vomiting over the side of the bed.” Overall there were 631 documented cases over a five-year period. The government has failed these girls because it’s racially and culturally inconvenient to help them. The rapists are Muslim, and the majority of the victims are white. In the UK, racial sensitivity is so high that the mere accusation of racism could end a public servant’s career. And the political class promotes political correctness and multiculturalism at any cost. Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/13/the-uks-political-establishment-is-still-failing-rape-victims/#ixzz3lkFHprk8 Feminists mute on epidemic of rape in Europe. http://www.infowars.com/feminists-mute-on-muslim-rape-epidemic-sweeping-europe/ Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
Canada_First Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 Gosh, I dunno. You do your best to call them names. I would have thought that would be convincing. Maybe you can come up with less generic insults and that would be more convincing.haha...you'd think relentless sarcasm, baiting and name calling would be enough. Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) History re-visited. Same type of hate tactics were used in the 1930's resulted in 6 million innocent lives in Europe. Women and men and children of Jewish origin were rounded up and sent to their death by those who fed and grew on hatred. The only difference is that target has changed from Jews to Muslims. Those who rape then punish them (and I strongly support capital punishment for those who commit violent crimes against defenseless women and children) but only those who commit the crime. Don't spread hate against millions just because a tiny thousand commit a horrible crime. And stop making allegations you cannot prove. the authorities glossed over because they didn't want to make accusations against Muslims could be in the tens of thousands, Edited September 14, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
Canada_First Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 History re-visited. Same type of hate tactics were used in the 1930's resulted in 6 million innocent lives in Europe. Women and men and children of Jewish origin were rounded up and sent to their death by those who fed and grew on hatred. The only difference is that target has changed from Jews to Muslims. Jews in the 30s weren't leading a war to take over large portions of the world and set up a Caliphate as Muslims are.I don't want to import our enemies while the left is happy to let our enemies move in alongside us. It's disgusting. Quote
ToadBrother Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 Jews in the 30s weren't leading a war to take over large portions of the world and set up a Caliphate as Muslims are. I don't want to import our enemies while the left is happy to let our enemies move in alongside us. It's disgusting. Wow, all Muslims are leading a war to create a Caliphate? Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Jews in the 30s weren't leading a war to take over large portions of the world and set up a Caliphate as Muslims are. That was more or less what Jews were accused of some 70-80 years ago by same type of people(planning to take over the world!!!!!). Edited September 14, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
Canada_First Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 Wow, all Muslims are leading a war to create a Caliphate? I'm not willing to take the chance. There's no way to tell which ones are bad and which are good. What's clear is that they all practice a severe version if Islam. Homosexuals ate jailed or put to death. Apostates are killed. Women are not treated as equals. The list goes on. Not compatible with Canada. Quote
ToadBrother Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 I'm not willing to take the chance. There's no way to tell which ones are bad and which are good. What's clear is that they all practice a severe version if Islam. Homosexuals ate jailed or put to death. Apostates are killed. Women are not treated as equals. The list goes on. Not compatible with Canada. The choice isn't yours alone. Even the Tories are preparing to bring in more Syrian refugees. And no, they don't ALL follow a severe form of Islam. That's ludicrous. Quote
Canada_First Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 The choice isn't yours alone. Even the Tories are preparing to bring in more Syrian refugees. And no, they don't ALL follow a severe form of Islam. That's ludicrous. Syrian Christians are welcome. Muslims are not. They're our enemies. Syrian Muslims hate Israel and hate Jews. They view homosexualty as a crime. Women are second class citizens. These cultural and religious values aren't welcome in Canada. Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Syrian Christians are welcome. Muslims are not. They're our enemies. Syrian Muslims hate Israel and hate Jews. They view homosexualty as a crime. Women are second class citizens. These cultural and religious values aren't welcome in Canada. A clear case of hate propaganda. It is Your cultural values which are not welcome in Canada. Edited September 14, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
Canada_First Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 A clear case of hate propaganda. It is Your cultural values which are not welcome in Canada.So Syrian Muslims love Jews and Israel? They don't jail or kill homosexuals? Women are equal citizens in Islam? Where is the hate? Quote
GostHacked Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 I don't care what Quebec does. Such laws will be annulled by the SC anyway. But until that time comes. this law is in place. Again, guess which religion they are talking about? Quote
cannuck Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) I swear that when I saw this story I knew ---SNIP--- because it’s racially and culturally inconvenient to help them. The rapists are Muslim, and the majority of the victims are white. In the UK, racial sensitivity is so high that the mere accusation of racism could end a public servant’s career. And the political class promotes political correctness and multiculturalism at any cost. I agree, allowing child molesters to walk among us is horrible, and government complacency to not want to "rock the boat" is reprehensible beyond tolerance. Everyone from that religion needs to be driven out of Canada. So, I guess all the Catholic cult members need to leave NOW. (or did you forget about Mount Cashel - and every other orphange and residential school they ran for decades????) Edited September 15, 2015 by Charles Anthony ---SNIP--- Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) So Syrian Muslims love Jews and Israel?They don't jail or kill homosexuals?Women are equal citizens in Islam?Where is the hate? I am not an expert in Muslim laws and traditions and never had Syrian friends (except a student I had when I was teaching) but to answer your questions They may hate the actions of Israeli government and army but no very likely no, generally speaking Syrian Muslims don't hate Jews. Homosexuality may be illegal in Syria and many other countries in the world I don't know. No reason to hate the whole nation for that. I guess that you conveniently forgetting that in many Christian based countries homosexuals are also the target as we speak. And as recent as 150 years ago it was punishable by death in Canada too. And 150 years ago Canada was almost 100% Christian. From what I hear Women are not supposed to be regarded as sex objects. In some Muslim countries they assume high positions. What hate propaganda is when one emphases on a single and a few possible unacceptable habits and magnifies them and associates them with a specific group of people as all guilty and repeat it again and again trying to turn people against that certain group encouraging people to hate them or ban them from equal rights or equal access. Edited September 14, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
Argus Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 And no, they don't ALL follow a severe form of Islam. That's ludicrous. Is there a 'moderate' form of Islam? Seriously, is there an Islam somewhere which doesn't have the same draconion social beliefs as what we see in the Muslim world in general? If so, it isn't in the middle east. And that's where these people come from. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 A clear case of hate propaganda. It is Your cultural values which are not welcome in Canada. Seriously, I know you generally include a little disclaimer about you being ignorant of the facts, but your bleating protests about people being uncomfortable with the misogynistic social values of Islam are getting tiresome. And you don't even know what the law is on hate speech so stop embarrassing yourself. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
CITIZEN_2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) , but your bleating protests about people being uncomfortable with the misogynistic social values of Islam are getting tiresome. Your negativity and whining and attacks on Muslims and non-Europeans as inferior and encouraging people to ban them all or hate their values is tiresome. And you don't know nothing about theirs either only that I admit to it that I am not an expert and you don't. Edited September 14, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
Argus Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 I agree, allowing child molesters to walk among us is horrible, and government complacency to not want to "rock the boat" is reprehensible beyond tolerance. Everyone from that religion needs to be driven out of Canada. So, I guess all the Catholic cult members need to leave NOW. (or did you forget about Mount Cashel - and every other orphange and residential school they ran for decades????) I make it my practice to look into things which are bandied about a lot, like accusations against the Catholic Church. A lot of people like to throw accusations against the Catholic Church because of decades old child abuse. Virtually none of them know anything about the numbers involved, though. They've just heard a lot about it on the news. The actual numbers of priests involved are, statistically, about the same as that in any other profession, or in the general population at large, in fact. In other words, Catholic priests were no more likely to be abusers of underage people than clerics from any other religion, or doctors, lawyers, teachers - or parents. Now that's not much to brag about given these are PRIESTS and should have had a far better record. But regardless, I'm afraid you can't use this as an excuse to ignore the fact there is a very strong strain of misogeny among Muslms, and that their own texts tell them that raping 'infidels' is okay. Now I'll admit not all Muslim clerics agree with that, particularly over here, but a significant number do. And that's reflected in the attitudes towards women among Muslims from many countries, including and in particular, Pakistan. http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Rape_in_Islam Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
eyeball Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 I don't want to import our enemies while the left is happy to let our enemies move in alongside us. It's disgusting. Sounds like the left is the real enemy. I'm rather amazed we're still tolerated to the point we're allowed to walk around free. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Argus Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 Your negativity and whining and attacks on Muslims and non-Europeans as inferior and encouraging people to ban them all or hate their values is tiresome. And you don't know nothing about theirs either only that I admit to it that I am not an expert and you don't. Are you saying you don't approve of my values? Yet, evidently, you have that right. I, on the other hand, do not have the right to dissaprove of Muslim values. Why is that? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
ToadBrother Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 Is there a 'moderate' form of Islam? Seriously, is there an Islam somewhere which doesn't have the same draconion social beliefs as what we see in the Muslim world in general? If so, it isn't in the middle east. And that's where these people come from. Syria was actually a fairly socially moderate state, so I'm not sure what your point is. Quote
eyeball Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 Are you saying you don't approve of my values? Yet, evidently, you have that right. I, on the other hand, do not have the right to dissaprove of Muslim values. Why is that? Nobody said you don't have that right. That's strictly in your imagination Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Argus Posted September 14, 2015 Report Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) I am not an expert in Muslim laws and traditions and never had Syrian friends (except a student I had when I was teaching) but to answer your questions What hate propaganda is when one emphases on a single and a few possible unacceptable habits and magnifies them and associates them with a specific group of people as all guilty and repeat it again and again trying to turn people against that certain group encouraging people to hate them or ban them from equal rights or equal access. I posted a Pew research survey of Muslim attitudes in the Muslim world the other day. I bet you didn't bother to read it. When I talk about Muslim attitudes it's not because of an occasional person, but as displayed by the great mass of Muslims, especially in the middle east, adnd that's based on observable, reported and statistical information. And all you have is you had friend in Syria once, long ago... Edited September 14, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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