WestCoastRunner Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) I honestly know a lot about it. Just because I don't by the hype doesn't make me bad or wrong. People have mental illness, obviously. I'm not saying they don't, I'm not even saying that the act is unfogiveable. What I'm saying is that it's selfish, wether they know it or not makes no difference. You're agreeing with me that it's selfish, but then saying it doesn't enter their mind. It doesn't enter their mind because they're so self absorbed by their own self pity. It's selfish to you because you don't understand it, therefore you make judgement calls. Like I say, educate yourself. Edited August 27, 2015 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Hal 9000 Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 And we should accept your 'reasons' for someone to commit suicide without being called 'cowardly'? Well, we have to draw a line somewhere, don't we? Do you put Sue Rodriguiz, WTC jumpers and Robin Williams in the same category? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
WestCoastRunner Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 People make judgement calls on things they don't understand. It's that simple. It's not just this topic. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 Well, we have to draw a line somewhere, don't we? Do you put Sue Rodriguiz, WTC jumpers and Robin Williams in the same category? Right, so you have a category for legitimate suicide folks. Unbelievable. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Guest Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 Well, we have to draw a line somewhere, don't we? Do you put Sue Rodriguiz, WTC jumpers and Robin Williams in the same category? People who wanted whatever was wrong in their lives to stop, and were willing to die to make sure it did. It's a pretty broad category. Which ones were selfish? Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 I see you dropping many posts; I simply thought rather than try to interpret across all your many posts, I'd simply ask for a summation. Apparently, you're somewhat resistant to the idea of actually providing a clear understanding of your position. I'll ask again... obviously its your prerogative to ignore it once again: Why not be perfectly clear and state under what circumstances you accept suicide - if any... and why not qualify those you accept - if any... as in state why you accept them. Ignore what? Good grief! Right from the first time I quoted you up until the last post i've been pretty clear. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
WestCoastRunner Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) People who wanted whatever was wrong in their lives to stop, and were willing to die to make sure it did. It's a pretty broad category. Which ones were selfish? I'm guessing Robin Williams was a coward. Edited August 27, 2015 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Hal 9000 Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 Right, so you have a category for legitimate suicide folks. Unbelievable. Just answer the question! Are they in the same category? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
WestCoastRunner Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 Ignore what? Good grief! Right from the first time I quoted you up until the last post i've been pretty clear. Are you God? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
On Guard for Thee Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 Ignore what? Good grief! Right from the first time I quoted you up until the last post i've been pretty clear. Everybody who commits suicide is selfish, is that right? Just to sum up? Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 Just answer the question! Are they in the same category? Yes, they are. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Guest Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 I'm guessing Robin Williams was a coward. Shazbat! Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 I'm guessing Robin Williams was a coward. Thank you, Yes, Robin Williams had a choice, the others didn't! Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
WestCoastRunner Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 Thank you, Yes, Robin Williams had a choice, the others didn't! Right. You are so predictable. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Hal 9000 Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 Yes, they are. Really! One person gets up kisses his kids goodbye and 2 hours later he is forced to jump out a window or burn alive. One knows that she will soon be a complete vegetable, not got better and doesn't want her family going through that and the last one is feeling depressed - things aren't going his way right now. You really find these thing the same? WoW! Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Hal 9000 Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 Right. You are so predictable. Predictable because it's obvious! Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
WestCoastRunner Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) Really! One person gets up kisses his kids goodbye and 2 hours later he is forced to jump out a window or burn alive. One knows that she will soon be a complete vegetable, not got better and doesn't want her family going through that and the last one is feeling depressed - things aren't going his way right now. You really find these thing the same? WoW! Not sure what your point is and your arguments are becoming rather boring. Edited August 27, 2015 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Hal 9000 Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 Everybody who commits suicide is selfish, is that right? Just to sum up? Is that even close to what I said...or even suggested? WoW, get your head in game or leave. Don't just drive by with stupid comments. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Hal 9000 Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 Not sure what your point is and your arguments are becoming rather boring. You can admit that those scenarios are different - it's OK. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
waldo Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 Ignore what? Good grief! Right from the first time I quoted you up until the last post i've been pretty clear. no you haven't. You've stated many things across many posts... the only clarity appears to be in your mind... that's why you have several of us asking you pointed questions. Again, apparently you're now very resistant to actually stating your position on suicide. Let's make it even simpler for you: - what conditions/circumstances around suicide do you reject as unacceptable/illegitimate/selfish and cowardly... and why? - what conditions/circumstances around suicide do you accept... and why? Quote
Guest Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) Really! One person gets up kisses his kids goodbye and 2 hours later he is forced to jump out a window or burn alive. One knows that she will soon be a complete vegetable, not got better and doesn't want her family going through that and the last one is feeling depressed - things aren't going his way right now. You really find these thing the same? WoW! Why do they have to be the same? What right have you to separate people into categories of your own making? "Those whose lives suck enough, go on the left, those whose lives don't suck enough, you go on the right. Those on the right, I'll get to you shortly to explain why you have to stick around." Edited August 27, 2015 by bcsapper Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 Is that even close to what I said...or even suggested? WoW, get your head in game or leave. Don't just drive by with stupid comments. That's exactly what you have said, a number of times. Go back to post # 18 for example, and you know where you need to get your head out of. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 no you haven't. You've stated many things across many posts... the only clarity appears to be in your mind... that's why you have several of us asking you pointed questions. Again, apparently you're now very resistant to actually stating your position on suicide. Let's make it even simpler for you: - what conditions/circumstances around suicide do you reject as unacceptable/illegitimate/selfish and cowardly... and why? - what conditions/circumstances around suicide do you accept... and why? OK, I'll go over it a fifth time for the not too bright. You're in a burning building and you choose to jump to your death You dive in front of train to save a baby knowing you won't survive A grenade falls into your tank and you fall on it You jump in a like to save your kid but you can't swim too well and drown You have a degenerative disease and you want to choose your time * These are not the same as; Life sucks, I'm a failure, nobody likes me, it's too hard to go on. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Hal 9000 Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 Why do they have to be the same? What right have you to separate people into categories of your own making? "Those whose lives suck enough, go on the left, those whose lives don't suck enough, you go on the right. Those on the right, I'll get to you shortly to explain why you have to stick around." WCR says they're the same, I don't. The categories are not my making, they're obvious! Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 OK, I'll go over it a fifth time for the not too bright. You're in a burning building and you choose to jump to your death You dive in front of train to save a baby knowing you won't survive A grenade falls into your tank and you fall on it You jump in a like to save your kid but you can't swim too well and drown You have a degenerative disease and you want to choose your time * These are not the same as; Life sucks, I'm a failure, nobody likes me, it's too hard to go on. Your first 4 I are not suicide I would argue. Number 5 could be. Your last one is just a troll for the not too bright. Quote
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