PIK Posted July 2, 2015 Report Posted July 2, 2015 Cant people get along for one day. Who cares what it is called. But I did enjoy the singing of god save the queen. Always like that song. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Black Dog Posted July 2, 2015 Report Posted July 2, 2015 To me, the change to the banal 'Canada day' is symbolic of the Quebec controlled Liberal party of the day's attempt to destroy Canada and its institutions and erase any and all part of its history which detracted from the sense of smug superiority Quebec's Francophones felt towards the English. Destroying Canada by...changing the name to CANADA Day? Are you sure you thought this through? Quote
Black Dog Posted July 2, 2015 Report Posted July 2, 2015 Canada should be for British or French people only. No other people's should've been allowed here. Too much trouble it's caused. Non-English and French immigrants literally built this country from the railways to the national parks. As a person who's lived in alternate racial situations I know how much trouble living amongst other people can cause. It can and has led to the stealing of whole nations. Like how the English and French stole this land? I see Canada going down the same path and it's scary. It's almost like the long term plan is to ensure the British and French are expunged from this land. Sad state of affairs. You should probably move away then. Bye. Quote
PIK Posted July 2, 2015 Report Posted July 2, 2015 English had nothing to do with building this country. What are you smoking. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Black Dog Posted July 2, 2015 Report Posted July 2, 2015 English had nothing to do with building this country. What are you smoking. Who are you talking to? Quote
PIK Posted July 2, 2015 Report Posted July 2, 2015 You. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Black Dog Posted July 2, 2015 Report Posted July 2, 2015 You. Who said anything about "English" (the English perhaps?) having nothing to do with building this country? I sure didn't. There's no denying Canada would not be the country it is without the contributions of millions of Scots, Irish, Italians, Germans, Chinese, Indians and more. Quote
Argus Posted July 2, 2015 Author Report Posted July 2, 2015 Destroying Canada by...changing the name to CANADA Day? Are you sure you thought this through? Are you sure you read what I wrote correctly? I said 'symbolic of'... Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Black Dog Posted July 2, 2015 Report Posted July 2, 2015 Are you sure you read what I wrote correctly? I said 'symbolic of'... Yeah i read it. And it's still silly IMO. Canada Day may be banal, but at least it tells you want the day is about. Dominion Day tells you nothing of what it's about (on top of generally sounding like what it is: a dusty relic of a WASP-y past). The term Canada day has to be the dumbest most juvenile holiday ever named. It would be like The United states renaming independence day, America day. Or France renaming Bastille day, France day. Happy America Day! Happy France Day! Seriously? Is this the best we can do? This is really dumb. Independence Day tells you exactly what it's about (and most Americans don't even in call it that: it's "The Fourth of July") And if you don't like Canada Day, you would really hate the actual name of Bastille Day, which is La Fête nationale: The National Holiday. Quote
Argus Posted July 2, 2015 Author Report Posted July 2, 2015 Yeah i read it. And it's still silly IMO. Canada Day may be banal, but at least it tells you want the day is about. Dominion Day tells you nothing of what it's about (on top of generally sounding like what it is: a dusty relic of a WASP-y past). If you don't know what it's about then you're not a Canadian. See how simple that is? As for our 'waspy past' as you sneeringly put it, all our past is waspy. So what? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Black Dog Posted July 2, 2015 Report Posted July 2, 2015 If you don't know what it's about then you're not a Canadian. See how simple that is? Given we've had Canada Day since 1982, chances are if you know what Dominion Day is you're just old. As for our 'waspy past' as you sneeringly put it, all our past is waspy. So what? 1) It's not and, 2) our present and future aren't either. Quote
Argus Posted July 2, 2015 Author Report Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) Given we've had Canada Day since 1982, chances are if you know what Dominion Day is you're just old. Your argument in support of the change was that people might not have known what Dominion day was when it was in place. As for 'old', I think the word you might be better off using would be 'knowledgeable'. Edited July 2, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Shady Posted July 2, 2015 Report Posted July 2, 2015 Yeah i read it. And it's still silly IMO. Canada Day may be banal, but at least it tells you want the day is about. Dominion Day tells you nothing of what it's about (on top of generally sounding like what it is: a dusty relic of a WASP-y past). This is really dumb. Independence Day tells you exactly what it's about (and most Americans don't even in call it that: it's "The Fourth of July") And if you don't like Canada Day, you would really hate the actual name of Bastille Day, which is La Fête nationale: The National Holiday. No, Bastille Day is a good name. So is Independence Day. Much better than Canada Day, or America Day, or France Day. Those names are juvenile, and even you know that to be true. Quote
Black Dog Posted July 2, 2015 Report Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) Your argument in support of the change was that people might not have known what Dominion day was when it was in place. That was not my argument. The change was made. It's the only holiday many Canadians have ever known. So you and your Orange Order friends can call it what you want and celebrate how they want (though burning Catholics is frowned upon these days FYI), everyone else will call it by its real name and celebrate how they want and there's no harm done. Edited July 2, 2015 by Black Dog Quote
Argus Posted July 2, 2015 Author Report Posted July 2, 2015 That was not my argument. My apologies, then. I was inferring it was given no other argument contains even a hint of logic or common sense. Is your argument, then, that it's good we changed the name back then because after all this time people might not know what it meant if we hadn't changed it back then? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Black Dog Posted July 2, 2015 Report Posted July 2, 2015 No, Bastille Day is a good name. And it's not the name of the holiday. Understand? It's real name is literally the most generic name possible for a national holiday. So is Independence Day. Again: with Independence Day you know what you're celebrating: Will Smith's defeat of the alien invasion force in 1996. Much better than Canada Day, or America Day, or France Day. Those names are juvenile, and even you know that to be true. Tell that to an Aussie next January 26th. Quote
Black Dog Posted July 2, 2015 Report Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) My apologies, then. I was inferring it was given no other argument contains even a hint of logic or common sense. Is your argument, then, that it's good we changed the name back then because after all this time people might not know what it meant if we hadn't changed it back then? It's not an argument anymore then your OP was an argument for Dominion Day and not just a rather sad Boomer lament for the lost past. It's a statement: Dominion Day is gone and it's not coming back. Funny thing is, though, I'm inclined to agree with your assessment of how it's become more Americanized, though I completely disagree that it's an intended consequence of the name change but rather a reflection of our changing social attitudes overall. Canadians are simply less reserved than they used to be. As always, I blame the pernicious influence of the Irish. Edited July 2, 2015 by Black Dog Quote
Second-class Canadian Posted July 2, 2015 Report Posted July 2, 2015 Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is no law prohibiting the use of Dominion Day, is there? Quote
PIK Posted July 3, 2015 Report Posted July 3, 2015 Listening to the CBC it is. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
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