Topaz Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 If you've wondered who they are here's a list and the Tories, then the NDP have the most going....Tories have 28. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42nd_Canadian_federal_election Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 If you've wondered who they are here's a list and the Tories, then the NDP have the most going....Tories have 28. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42nd_Canadian_federal_election You'll notice it's a ton of long-term MPs who are protecting their pensions: Joe Comartin, Ted Hsu, Libby Davies, Irwin Cotler, Gerry Byrne, etc. These people would be stupid to stick around until next year and lose 5 years of their pensions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 You'll notice it's a ton of long-term MPs who are protecting their pensions: Joe Comartin, Ted Hsu, Libby Davies, Irwin Cotler, Gerry Byrne, etc. These people would be stupid to stick around until next year and lose 5 years of their pensions. You're like a dog on a bone - but not everyone falls into your careless rhetoric. Irwin Cotler is 74. Joe Comartin is 68. Libby Davies is 63. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Pension or not, politics is a gruelling game. Anyone who's been in office for 10 years or more is likely burned out. It's amazing so many people stay on as long as they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 You're like a dog on a bone - but not everyone falls into your careless rhetoric. Irwin Cotler is 74. Joe Comartin is 68. Libby Davies is 63.I don't now why you think it's a bad thing. If I was in Mackay and Baird's positions I would have left to protect my pension too. It's just common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 I don't now why you think it's a bad thing. If I was in Mackay and Baird's positions I would have left to protect my pension too. It's just common sense. I thought you were saying they were just after the money - so if I misinterpreted your post, I apologize for implying otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 You'll notice it's a ton of long-term MPs who are protecting their pensions: Joe Comartin, Ted Hsu, Libby Davies, Irwin Cotler, Gerry Byrne, etc. These people would be stupid to stick around until next year and lose 5 years of their pensions. Politics isn't an easy gig man! It's a battle getting re elected! I've met a couple people you mentioned and they're getting up there in age. I believe a couple people there are already collecting a Canada pension for crying out loud man!!!!! In order to be an MPP or MP, you have to join an established top 3 in Canada party, then sign up at least 50 members that you can bring out to the nomination meeting to vote for you. Get $100,000 in political contributions to go into election. And knock on doors until the freekin cows come home! You have time for that?!?!?!?!? I can see if you already have an celebrity name with good contacts and wealthy but for regular folks like you and me and our next door neighbours or the people we work with, forget it! (I know for a fact in the ONDP if you are already a municipal politician with good contacts, and in other exemptions, the party will pull strings for you to help you get your foot in the door!) This is part of the reason why I always go on about the rights people in China have compared to those in Canada!!!!! I was at an ONDP provincial council meeting a few years back and my stomach twisted and turned when the election committee told the delegates that new candidates moving forward had to be pulling in money or they would be shown the door. It wasn't the ONDP's fault that they were addressing the reality of Canadian politics, it was the reality of our political system that made me sick! WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 I thought you were saying they were just after the money - so if I misinterpreted your post, I apologize for implying otherwise.Well, in a way, I guess, but at least some of them are protecting their pensions due to the changes. They would be stupid not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 I wonder what Harper expected? Did he not anticipate this? Is he going too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remiel Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 You'll notice it's a ton of long-term MPs who are protecting their pensions: Joe Comartin, Ted Hsu, Libby Davies, Irwin Cotler, Gerry Byrne, etc. These people would be stupid to stick around until next year and lose 5 years of their pensions. Dude, Ted Hsu was elected for the first time in 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I was disappointed to hear that Ted Hsu would not be running again. I had seen him in interviews and found him honest and refusing to mouth party line. Too bad, I guess he is too intelligent and/or moral to have stayed in politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Well, in a way, I guess, but at least some of them are protecting their pensions due to the changes. They would be stupid not to. So are you saying it's an issue - or not? 4 of your 5 examples make no sense. Guess I can retract my apology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 So are you saying it's an issue - or not? 4 of your 5 examples make no sense. Guess I can retract my apology. An issue? As in a problem? It's not a problem at all. Just pointing out what I believe is the underlying reason for all of these well-known politicians leaving, in spite of the commentary that it means trouble for the CPC. I don't believe it does. I believe it's just people who stand to gain 10 years of pension by doing so. I don't think it signals bigger issues in the party, like others have suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 Well it appears there may be another reason for John Baird leaving ... and now he may really be toast. AnonDown: http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-politics/136388-cc-leaks-john-baird-more.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 At this point, without any kind of proof, this is tabloid stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) At this point, without any kind of proof, this is tabloid stuff.Anonymous leaks are pretty reliable. Somebody has the video.http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-politics/136388-cc-leaks-john-baird-more.html. Edited July 31, 2015 by jacee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 Anonymous leaks are pretty reliable. Somebody has the video. And until I see it, I won't believe it exists. I would give anyone the same benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 And until I see it, I won't believe it exists. I would give anyone the same benefit. You'll never see it publicly. They are underage. We may see how Bair ' s and his new employer react, though. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) Dp Edited July 31, 2015 by jacee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 You'll never see it publicly. They are underage. We may see how Bair ' s and his new employer react, though. . Witch hunt anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 Witch hunt anyone? Hold onto your dreams. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 You'll never see it publicly. They are underage. I need proof from legitimate authorities. Anonymous is mad at the government. I have no reason to believe what they or those purporting to speak for them have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 I need proof from legitimate authorities. Anonymous is mad at the government. I have no reason to believe what they or those purporting to speak for them have to say. Ya I hope he gets charged and convicted too. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 Ya I hope he gets charged and convicted too. You're really quit to believe baseless accusations against people you don't like, aren't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 You're really quit to believe baseless accusations against people you don't like, aren't you? You wanted "legitimate authorities". Anonymous has been a reliable information source, imo. Watch the reactions. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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