USA Genocide against Native Americans

[Freddy]

Can I assume from this that your answer to,

Would you have willingly worked in a Nazis concentration/death camp to ensure your standard of living remained constant?

is also a resounding "Yes"?

I'm from North America. I'd willingly join the armed forces and go kill the Germans, to save the Jews.

[Je suis Omar]

I'm from North America. I'd willingly join the armed forces and go kill the Germans, to save the Jews.

Helllllllllllooooooooo, Freddy. This is 2015.

That's not what I asked.

This is what I asked:

Can I assume from this that your answer to,

Would you have willingly worked in a Nazis concentration/death camp to ensure your standard of living remained constant?

is also a resounding "Yes"?

You have mentioned that your standard of living is important to you.

[Freddy]

You know what isn't part of nature. religion, and Laws. Two very un-natural things.

[Freddy]

Helllllllllllooooooooo, Freddy. This is 2015.

That's not what I asked.

This is what I asked:

Can I assume from this that your answer to,

Would you have willingly worked in a Nazis concentration/death camp to ensure your standard of living remained constant?

is also a resounding "Yes"?

You have mentioned that your standard of living is important to you.

I answered your question. If it wasn't what you wanted to here then to bad

[eyeball]

You know what isn't part of nature. religion, and Laws. Two very un-natural things.

And yet anything that comes into existence is by definition a product of nature. Edited May 23, 2015 by eyeball

[Freddy]

And yet anything that comes into existence is by definition a product of nature.

true. :)b. And war. Edited May 23, 2015 by Freddy

[Je suis Omar]

I answered your question. If it wasn't what you wanted to here then to bad

No, you didn't, Freddy. You ferociously danced around it.

Would you have willingly worked in a Nazis concentration/death camp, performing whatever tasks are needed to maintain efficiency, to ensure your standard of living remained constant?

[Freddy]

No, you didn't, Freddy. You ferociously danced around it.

Would you have willingly worked in a Nazis concentration/death camp, performing whatever tasks are needed to maintain efficiency, to ensure your standard of living remained constant?

If I was a German , yes. I would have eradicated every single Jew. Edited May 23, 2015 by Freddy

[Je suis Omar]

If I was a German , yes. I would have eradicated every single Jew.

But you are not a German national, nor were you one back in the 1940s.

You are Freddy, a Canadian. The question is a hypothetical, like the one I asked you about concerning participation in an American death squad.

This is a hypothetical you being transported back in time to the 1940s.

Would you have willingly worked in a Nazi concentration/death camp, performing whatever tasks were needed to maintain the efficiency of said camp, to ensure your standard of living remained constant?

Edited May 23, 2015 by Je suis Omar

[Freddy]

But you are not a German national, nor were you one back in the 1940s.

You are Freddy, a Canadian. The question is a hypothetical, like the one I asked you about concerning participation in an American death squad.

This is a hypothetical you being transported back in time to the 1940s.

Would you have willingly worked in a Nazi concentration/death camp, performing whatever tasks were needed to maintain the efficiency of said camp, to ensure your standard of living remained constant?

Yep,

[Scotty]

This is a hypothetical you being transported back in time to the 1940s.

Would you have willingly worked in a Nazi concentration/death camp, performing whatever tasks were needed to maintain the efficiency of said camp, to ensure your standard of living remained constant?

Here is a hypothetical for you, Omar. Based upon your daily postings, would you be willing to aid a terrorist group in killing Americans? Would you be willing to kill Americans yourself, or supply information to terrorists who would be willing to kill Americans?

[Je suis Omar]

Here is a hypothetical for you, Omar. Based upon your daily postings, would

You'd have to produce something from my postings that would indicate that this isn't just a knee jerk reaction on your part, that you didn't just pull this out of thin air.

Why do so many have so much trouble discerning fact from fiction?

Where have you been lurking, Scotty?

[Je suis Omar]

Another of the USA's presidents engaging in one of the things America does best, genocide.

Andrew Jackson was a wealthy slave owner and infamous Indian killer, gaining the nickname Sharp Knife from the Cherokee, writes Amargi on the website Unsettling America: Decolonization in Theory & Practice. He was also the founder of the Democratic Party, demonstrating that genocide against indigenous people is a nonpartisan issue. His first effort at Indian fighting was waging a war against the Creeks. President Jefferson had appointed him to appropriate Creek and Cherokee lands. In his brutal military campaigns against Indians, Andrew Jackson recommended that troops systematically kill Indian women and children after massacres in order to complete the extermination. The Creeks lost 23 million acres of land in southern Georgia and central Alabama, paving the way for cotton plantation slavery. His frontier warfare and subsequent negotiations opened up much of the southeast U.S. to settler colonialism.

Jackson was not only a genocidal maniac against the Indigenous Peoples of the southwest, he was also racist against African peoples and a scofflaw who violated nearly every standard of justice, according to historian Bertram Wyatt-Brown. As a major general in 1818, Jackson invaded Spanish Florida chasing fugitive slaves who had escaped with the intent of returning them to their owners, and sparked the First Seminole War. During the conflict, Jackson captured two British men, Alexander George Arbuthnot and Robert C. Ambrister, who were living among the Seminoles. The Seminoles had resisted Jacksons invasion of their land. One of the men had written about his support for the Seminoles land and treaty rights in letters found on a boat. Jackson used the evidence to accuse the men of inciting the Seminoles to savage warfare against the U.S. He convened a special court martial tribunal then had the men executed. His actions were a study in flagrant disobedience, gross inequality and premeditated ruthlessness he swept through Florida, crushed the Indians, executed Arbuthnot and Ambrister, and violated nearly every standard of justice, Wyatt-Brown wrote.

In 1830, a year after he became president, Jackson signed a law that he had proposed the Indian Removal Act which legalized ethnic cleansing. Within seven years 46,000 indigenous people were removed from their homelands east of the Mississippi. Their removal gave 25 million acres of land to white settlement and to slavery, according to PBS. The area was home to the Cherokee, Creek, Choctaw, Chickasaw and Seminole nations. In the Trail of Tears alone, 4,000 Cherokee people died of cold, hunger, and disease on their way to the western lands.

Read more at http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2012/02/20/indian-killer-andrew-jackson-deserves-top-spot-list-worst-us-presidents-98997

[bush_cheney2004]

President Jackson is still honoured to this day on America's most popular Federal Reserve Note....

[Je suis Omar]

Noted, and I've mentioned it before how the USA celebrates and exalts their purveyors of genocide, their war criminals, their terrorists.

Jackson, the most prolific purveyor of genocide president is still honoured to this day on America's most popular federal reserve note.

[bush_cheney2004]

Noted, and I've mentioned it before how the USA celebrates and exalts their purveyors of genocide, their war criminals, their terrorists.

Of course...we don't need wannabes from Canada to point out the obvious using America's internet and Google.

[Je suis Omar]

The "obvious" being that the USA is now, and has always been a vicious nation of war criminals, terrorists, purveyors of genocide, and a host of other unsavoury attributes.

The two, the USA and Google, couldn't be further apart.

Google: Dont be evil. We believe strongly that in the long term, we will be better served as shareholders and in all other ways by a company that does good things for the world even if we forgo some short term gains."

The USA, as embodied by Benjamin Franklin, another famous USA purveyor of Native American genocide:

If it be the design of Providence to extirpate these Savages in order to make room for cultivators of the Earth, it seems not improbable that rum may be the appointed means.

- Benjamin Franklin

Edited May 24, 2015 by Je suis Omar

[bush_cheney2004]

The "obvious" being that the USA is now, and has always been a vicious nation of war criminals, terrorists, purveyors of genocide, and a host of other unsavoury attributes.

That's right...starting with your now defunct British Empire...booted your monarch right in his ass.

The U.S. has far better historians and do-gooders to report the fact than any foreign hunt and peck wannabes.

[Je suis Omar]

Je suis Omar, on 24 May 2015 - 3:06 PM, said:

The "obvious" being that the USA is now, and has always been a vicious nation of war criminals, terrorists, purveyors of genocide, and a host of other unsavoury attributes.

That's right... .

[Scotty]

You'd have to produce something from my postings that would indicate t

You asked another poster a hypothetical based on what you saw in his statements. I'm asking you a hypothetical based on what I see in yours.

So answer the question.

[Je suis Omar]

You asked another poster a hypothetical based on what you saw in his statements. I'm asking you a hypothetical based on what I see in yours.

So answer the question.

That "another poster" had expressed, clearly, a predilection for supporting war criminals and terrorists for a number of fallacious reasons, for example, because others had done the same, because they provided him with a means of sustenance.

He and I are nowhere close to the same in our thinking. And it is specious of you to suggest we are.

As I said, find something in a post of mine that might lead you to think that you are asking a sensible question.

Edited May 25, 2015 by Je suis Omar

[jacee]

Noted, and I've mentioned it before how the USA celebrates and exalts their purveyors of genocide, their war criminals, their terrorists.

Jackson, the most prolific purveyor of genocide president is still honoured to this day on America's most popular federal reserve note.

So is Sir John A Macdonald ... or at least they tried ...

sir-john-a-macdonald-s-birthday-protested-by-aboriginal-rights-advocates

[Freddy]

You asked another poster a hypothetical based on what you saw in his statements. I'm asking you a hypothetical based on what I see in yours.

So answer the question.

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He wouldn't, .

He has not the intellectual fortitude to face his own obvious hypocrisy.

[AngusThermopyle]

Would you care to list all those non western nations who are bastions of the rule of law?

Omar: The ones who haven't attacked the USA for its unrelenting terrorist actions against them.

Come on, give us a list of all these guys who are crusading for law and human rights. Oh...thats right there are very few if any.

Omar: USA, nope, Australia, naaaa, UK, nope, Canada, no, ... .

In fact, I may be mistaken, but I think it was you who insinuated quite strongly that all Military people are of a lower I.Q.

Omar: Certainly not all.

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So, as I suspected you can't answer.. You throw out crap but when challenged you don't give any kind of reasonable answer. You just attempt to deflect away from your statement instead. As for your I.Q. comment If I recall correctly you said the military recruits lower I.Q. people. If one judges by our brief exchange it would actually appear to be you who has the I.Q. problem. I say this because so far you have not managed to present any logical or sound rebuttal to my question.

[Je suis Omar]

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He wouldn't, .

He has not the intellectual fortitude to face his own obvious hypocrisy.

I'm willing to listen while you describe my "obvious hypocrisy", Freddy.