socialist Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 Public education in the USA is being severely attacked by neo-liberals and people like the Koch brothers. There is a concerted effort in the USA to reduce the role of public schools while trying to privatize education. Right wingers in Wisconsin are trying to do just that. Canadians are more level headed than Americans, so I hope all Canadians can see past the anti-union, neoliberal, right wing fanatics who care only about profits. We need to care about our children. Wake up! Let's not let Canadian public education go the way of the declining American system. WAKE UP!! http://inthesetimes.com/working/entry/17632/democratic_teachers_unions Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 Canadian public education imports curriculum and testing frameworks from the U.S. Too late..... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
cybercoma Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 And American universities have to import researchers and professors from Canada and other countries around the world to make up for the piss poor preparation the vast majority of native-born Americans get. Look no further than the PISA ranking to see how crap your education system is despite spending more than the GDP of some countries on it. Must be nice for whoever the heck it is that's lining their pockets while delivering squat in return. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) It is nice.....the U.S. attracts far more international students than does Canada. Hell, even Michael Ignatieff went back to Harvard ! Edited March 20, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
cybercoma Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 Probably because they couldn't find an American qualified enough to do the job of a Canadian. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) No, because Ignatieff is one of the biggest American wannabes ever.....says so himself. Why mess around in the minor league (Canada) ? Edited March 20, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 What are your views on 'Common Core' Mr. Socialist? Quote
socialist Posted March 20, 2015 Author Report Posted March 20, 2015 What are your views on 'Common Core' Mr. Socialist? There are many positives with Common Core. It will lead to the development of higher level thinking skills in students. Students today often are tested on one skill at a time. Common Core assessment will cover several skills within each question. This will ultimately lead to better problem solving skills and increased reasoning. There are many other positive things about it. What are your views on it, gosthacked? Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Shady Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 And American universities have to import researchers and professors from Canada and other countries around the world to make up for the piss poor preparation the vast majority of native-born Americans get.That's just not true, and borderline racism, or at least rank and disgusting anti-Americanism. I went to the University of Western Ontario, and the number of foreign born professors, and ones there on contracts to teach from other countries were in the dozens. Quote
cybercoma Posted March 21, 2015 Report Posted March 21, 2015 That's just not true, and borderline racism, or at least rank and disgusting anti-Americanism. I went to the University of Western Ontario, and the number of foreign born professors, and ones there on contracts to teach from other countries were in the dozens. Do you want me to send you some Coles Notes on what "racism" means? Quote
jacee Posted March 21, 2015 Report Posted March 21, 2015 That's just not true, and borderline racism, or at least rank and disgusting anti-Americanism. I went to the University of Western Ontario, and the number of foreign born professors, and ones there on contracts to teach from other countries were in the dozens. Ya, the Vietnam draft dodgers were a big presence in Canadian universities in the 70's and many stayed on. . Quote
GostHacked Posted March 23, 2015 Report Posted March 23, 2015 There are many positives with Common Core. It will lead to the development of higher level thinking skills in students. Students today often are tested on one skill at a time. Common Core assessment will cover several skills within each question. This will ultimately lead to better problem solving skills and increased reasoning. There are many other positive things about it. What are your views on it, gosthacked? About half of the states are now putting legislation through to get rid of Common Core. What are the positives? Quote
socialist Posted March 23, 2015 Author Report Posted March 23, 2015 About half of the states are now putting legislation through to get rid of Common Core. What are the positives? The tea party doesn't like common core, so that should put it in some perspective for you. I mentioned a positive above. Did you even bother to read it? Common Core Standards will increase the rigor in the classroom and thus better prepare students for college and global work success. This is probably the single biggest reason why Common Core Standards were created. Higher education has long complained that more and more students need remediation at the beginning of college. The increased rigor should lead students to be more prepared for life after high school. Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
GostHacked Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 The tea party doesn't like common core, so that should put it in some perspective for you. I mentioned a positive above. Did you even bother to read it? You mentioned a positive that can be applied to almost anything. It's nothing speak. It's empty words. Common core is good for making idiot workers who won't question the system because they don't know how to, all because of their education. Quote
socialist Posted March 24, 2015 Author Report Posted March 24, 2015 You mentioned a positive that can be applied to almost anything. It's nothing speak. It's empty words. Common core is good for making idiot workers who won't question the system because they don't know how to, all because of their education. Your rant is typical of the tea party crowd. Those arguments bore me. The Common Core Standards will enhance teacher collaboration and professional development. Teachers across the USA will be teaching the same curriculum. This allows teachers in opposite corners of the nation to share their best practices with each other and apply it. It also provides the opportunity for meaningful professional development as the education community is all on the same page. But you aren't trained as an educator, so this wouldn't seem like much to the person who hasn't been in the classroom. Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
GostHacked Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 I doubt you are an educator or a teacher. What you are doing is molding kids into a global society which makes them nothing more than automatons. But what's in a name, right 'Socialist' ?? Quote
GostHacked Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 But here is an example of Common Core math. Can any of you understand what is being asked in this 'math' question? Is this the crap being pushed into schools? What the hell does the following mean? Math is to be elegant and as simple as can be. I have no idea what this crap is. Another?? Quote
socialist Posted March 24, 2015 Author Report Posted March 24, 2015 But here is an example of Common Core math. Can any of you understand what is being asked in this 'math' question? Is this the crap being pushed into schools? What the hell does the following mean? Math is to be elegant and as simple as can be. I have no idea what this crap is. Another?? Those examples show discovery learning at its best. Instead of getting kids to simply memorize useless times tables, they are expected to show they understand the concepts. Your old-fashioned way is going the way of the dodo bird, gosthacked. Traditional classrooms where the teachers stands in front of the classroom regurgitating facts is OVER! Time to get with the times gosthacked. The 50s are over buddy. Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
GostHacked Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) I've seen the number lines and that seems to be a nice learning tool, but the worded math problems tend to be the most confusing. As one needs to translate it into tangible numbers to get to the correct answer. But asking how you make 10 out of 8+5 is moronic. Why? Because it equals 13. Word math problems should still translate into a mathematical formula. The question should read 2=10-8, the 5 in the question can be completely ignored as it is irrelevant. This is not math. This is bullshit. Edited March 24, 2015 by GostHacked Quote
socialist Posted March 24, 2015 Author Report Posted March 24, 2015 I've seen the number lines and that seems to be a nice learning tool, but the worded math problems tend to be the most confusing. As one needs to translate it into tangible numbers to get to the correct answer. But asking how you make 10 out of 8+5 is moronic. Why? Because it equals 13. Word math problems should still translate into a mathematical formula. The question should read 2=10-8, the 5 in the question can be completely ignored as it is irrelevant. This is not math. This is bullshit. This is math in the 21st century. Check out the textbooks used in the school nearest you. Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Guest Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 But here is an example of Common Core math. Can any of you understand what is being asked in this 'math' question? Is this the crap being pushed into schools? What the hell does the following mean? Math is to be elegant and as simple as can be. I have no idea what this crap is. Another?? I gotta say that's pretty dumb. Teach a person the basics and those type of things come intuitively. Teach them like that and they'll be stuck with those numbers forever. It seems obvious that the best way to teach the Discovery Method is to let students discover it, which they will, if grounded properly in the basics. Quote
GostHacked Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 I gotta say that's pretty dumb. Teach a person the basics and those type of things come intuitively. Teach them like that and they'll be stuck with those numbers forever. It seems obvious that the best way to teach the Discovery Method is to let students discover it, which they will, if grounded properly in the basics. Well, since we are going the discovery way, why even have teachers? Quote
Je suis Omar Posted March 31, 2015 Report Posted March 31, 2015 It is nice.....the U.S. attracts far more international students than does Canada. ! Baubles and shiny lights attract a lot of folks. Quote
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