poochy Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) On Guard's usual deflections have wasted more posts It's all he seems capable of doing, and to make it worse, he's not very good at it. Trudeau isn't real, he is an actor playing the role written for him by his handlers. Edited August 13, 2015 by poochy
On Guard for Thee Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 My god (if you believe in that sort of thing) your deflections are truly pathetic, do yourself a favor and don't reply, I literally feel embarrassment for you when you do this. Sorry to point out where your guy lied (one of) but don't take it personally.
Argus Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 Sorry to point out where your guy lied (one of) but don't take it personally. All of them lie. You're one of the few who seems to believe that yours is pure as the driven snow. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 All of them lie. You're one of the few who seems to believe that yours is pure as the driven snow. Yet another Argus assumption. But go on then, who is the "yours" you speak of?
socialist Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 Yet another Argus assumption. But go on then, who is the "yours" you speak of? Conservatives use their own money for charitable things while Progressives organize things so that it is "other people's money" Thankful to have become a free thinker.
socialist Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 Sorry to point out where your guy lied (one of) but don't take it personally. The difference is that while on the economic file Mulcair speaks in generalities as well, he does have a specific vision for where he wants to go with the economy i.e. creating more value added, resource based jobs in Canada. Trudeau, on the other hand, is vagarious besides blathering on about defending the middle class, despite not having a clue what being middle class means Thankful to have become a free thinker.
socialist Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 That was a funny. Is that like when he stated in the debate he would give a tax break to the middle class to lift children out of poverty? He's an absurd candidate who looks more foolish every time he opens his mouth. Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Michael Hardner Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 He's an absurd candidate who looks more foolish every time he opens his mouth.[/size][/font]Another stunning about face from you, this time on Justin Trudeau: ]He can relate to Canadians of all stripes. he is battle hardened and is the son of Canada's greatest prime minister. Justin learned a lot from his dad. He continues to impress me as he grows into a world-respected politician who understands the average citizen. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/24015-justin-trudeau-missing-in-action-again/page-6#entry1006136 Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
socialist Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 Another stunning about face from you, this time on Justin Trudeau: http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/24015-justin-trudeau-missing-in-action-again/page-6#entry1006136 Like I told you in chat the other night, Michael, my views are changing. I'm leaning Libertarian. How many of my past posts have you read? I'm flattered. Thankful to have become a free thinker.
PIK Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 I have notice the change in you . Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Argus Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) So... I've said before that Trudeau reminds me of Dalton McGuinty, but with better hair. His unbridled enthusiasm for doing 'good' without much thought into the complexities, or in actually examining the evidence and facts beforehand are very similar to the last Ontario premier, who scuttled out of office and out of the country and hasn't been see since. Yesterday, Trudeau promised to do what Harper wouldn't do, give billions to first nations for education, but without any oversight as to how it's spent. That oversight was what scuttled the $2 billion deal Harper had made with the AFN leadership. Anyway, when Trudeau was asked where he was going to get the money for his promises he said the following: “I’ve said very clearly that the Liberal Party is committed to balance the budget, but how long it takes to do that depends on the size of the mess that Mr. Harper has left behind,” Uh Ohhhh! For those not in Ontario, Ernie Eves' Tories left a small deficit, a one year deficit brought about by a number of things. McGuinty basically then went on a spending spree, playing accounting games to blame it all on the previous Tory government. He raised taxes, imposed a health care tax, and then doubled spending, so that ten years later, the Liberals are still running big deficits. It looks very much like Trudeau is planning on doing the same thing. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/trudeau-pledges-to-invest-in-first-nations-education-and-social-programs/article25961432/ Edited August 14, 2015 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
waldo Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 Yesterday, Trudeau promised to do what Harper wouldn't do, give billions to first nations for education, but without any oversight as to how it's spent. That oversight was what scuttled the $2 billion deal Harper had made with the AFN leadership. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/trudeau-pledges-to-invest-in-first-nations-education-and-social-programs/article25961432/ no oversight? Haven't heard/read that one before... where's that come from? And here I thought what scuttled the deal was the internal 'politics' between the AFN and (some) bands that indicated they had no participation/input. .
PIK Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 If McGuinty only took the hydro deal from Quebec, thing would be so different right now. But I would love to see a investigation on smithermens trip to Korea, when he went over by himself and signed us into hell for the next 20 yrs. I have a feeling he made a lot of money off that trip. But then with the OPP in their pocket what would it do. Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
PIK Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 The education deal was canned because harper wanted receipts. Just like martins 5 bil , it would have disappeared and nothing would have changed. Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Canada_First Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 Like I told you in chat the other night, Michael, my views are changing. I'm leaning Libertarian. How many of my past posts have you read? I'm flattered. I too am mostly a libertarian. Too bad more politicians aren't. So many problems would disappear overnight.
socialist Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 I too am mostly a libertarian. Too bad more politicians aren't. So many problems would disappear overnight. I agree 100%. Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Icebound Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 ... i I too am mostly a libertarian. Too bad more politicians aren't. So many problems would disappear overnight. Especially those of the homeless, the sick and the unemployed.
PIK Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 The homeless, poverty are all part of a billion dollar industry, the left will never want to give up. It creates to many well paying government jobs. Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
socialist Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 No, did you read the survey? It states an either/or, you're with the CPC or you're with the terrorists poll question. I find this sort of speech to be at least equally ridiculous to the soldiers in the streets ad, maybe a little more so. It's more annoying because it is paid for out of the constituency allowance, which shouldn't be used for such ridiculous partisan purposes. Then I made fun of you because you would blindly defend this because you think he's on Team Shady, and then still go on about the soldiers in the street ad 10 years later. Understand now? Justin Trudeau, as a fully paid MP, skipped the House in session to go give some speeches to charities for extra fees. NO other MP on a full MP salary has ever done that, to skip the House in session to go give speeches for extra fees. Justin is a good draw for fundraisers (except the CMHA lost on the Justin event while Justin took off with $20,000 in his private pocket) while he ignores the job he gets paid for in full. Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Argus Posted August 16, 2015 Report Posted August 16, 2015 The more I see of Trudeau, the more I'm reminded of Dalton McGuinty and Kathleen Wynne, and how they did business. They spent billions and committed Ontario to billions and tens of billions in more spending without any regard to the complications of what they were doing. When told it wouldn't work, they ignored the advice, even coming from insiders. They never did any business studies to determine if their ideas ought to be implemented or would work, and never analysed them along the way to see how they were going. And they still don't.All that's needed is the earnest feeling that something should be done - which is pretty much all we see from Trudeau and his "we'll build from the heart" nonsense. http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/08/15/appalling-liberal-incompetence "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
waldo Posted August 16, 2015 Report Posted August 16, 2015 "we'll build from the heart" that would be "build from the heart middle-class out"... imagine you perpetuating a Harper Conservative purposeful, out-of-context, one-liner piece of misinformation! Imagine that!
Argus Posted August 16, 2015 Report Posted August 16, 2015 that would be "build from the heart middle-class out"... imagine you perpetuating a Harper Conservative purposeful, out-of-context, one-liner piece of misinformation! Imagine that! We're proposing a strong and real plan, one that invests in the middle class, so we can grow the economy, not from the top down, the way Mr. Harper wants to, but from the heart outwards. That's what Canada has always done well," Trudeau said. What's on the top again? Riiight, the head. Trudeau doesn't want to use his head, assuming there's anything inside it and it's not simply a place to grow nice hair. He's an earnest, naive, and emotional man who wants to do good things without considering the complications or complexities, and, like his father, doesn't really care what any of it costs. What does cost matter when you're doing good, after all!? http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-heart-economy-care-bears-1.3190219 "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
waldo Posted August 16, 2015 Report Posted August 16, 2015 EverIncreasingArgusDesperation... mention JT's hair ... drop a reference to the 30+ year old government of long-dead PET ... continue with the "he's not ready" theme ... continue to play-up HarperCon purposeful misinformation routine ...
socialist Posted August 16, 2015 Report Posted August 16, 2015 Deflectors gonna Deflect. Did Wright tell the truth yesterday? The idea of separation, more correctly, secession, is not yet dead. It is an issue to discuss in this election because the PQ may well gain power and the next Federal Govt.will have to deal with that.The Feds. have the power to disallow any Provincial Legislation, so the question to ask the Federalist Parties is whether they are willing to disallow Quebec actions that do not comply with the Canadian Constitution as outlined by the Supreme Court. The question to ask the Bloc secessionists is whether they will comply with the Supreme Court's guidelines and if not, are they willing to take the consequences for illegal actions.In addition, the Bloc should be asked how they will deal with the First Nations who have no wish to join the Quebecois nation in leaving Canada. I do not see why the article is"stupid" to quote Trudeau. Whether or not Duplessis was reactionary or not is irrelevant. Indeed, in many ways the PQ are far more reactionary the Duplessis who did not force Canadian citizens into French Catholic schools and who hired more Anglos in the Quebec/ municipal civil services than the PQ did. Both are reactionary but in different ways. One worshiped Catholicism to extremes while the other worships French to extremes.Both damaged Quebec but it is only now that public faith in Provincially controlled institutions-health, education, infrastructure-is falling rapidly and demanding change in those institutions just like they demanded change at the end of the Duplessis era. Thankful to have become a free thinker.
socialist Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) In case you haven't noticed, we already had a referendum on Chretien's leadership too. Buddy, when Justin skipped Parliament in session to go give speeches to charities, taking no less than $20,000 from the Canadian Mental Health Association, Justin was doing all of that 'from the heart outward', right? Right. Edited August 17, 2015 by socialist Thankful to have become a free thinker.
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