Bill C-51: Federal Anti-Terror Legislation polling results

On Guard for Thee · March 31, 2015

And of course the correlation in the latest polls that also shows that the more people read or study the bill, the less they support it. Not surprising.

WIP · March 31, 2015

And of course the correlation in the latest polls that also shows that the more people read or study the bill, the less they support it. Not surprising.

Some good news for a change! It's a good thing Harper didn't title it something like "patriot act" or it would have been rubberstamped without question or 2nd thought!

On Guard for Thee · March 31, 2015

Some good news for a change! It's a good thing Harper didn't title it something like "patriot act" or it would have been rubberstamped without question or 2nd thought!

Dont give him any ideas.

jacee · April 1, 2015

And of course the correlation in the latest polls that also shows that the more people read or study the bill, the less they support it. Not surprising.

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90 per cent of respondents said the party or leader with the best plan for the Canadian economy will be more important in determining who wins than the party with the best plan to fight terrorists. Only 4 per cent said fighting terrorism is more important than the economy.

Argus · April 1, 2015

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90 per cent of respondents said the party or leader with the best plan for the Canadian economy will be more important in determining who wins than the party with the best plan to fight terrorists. Only 4 per cent said fighting terrorism is more important than the economy.

Say hello to another Tory victory, then, given the Liberals have never HAD any plan for the economy.

Mighty AC · April 1, 2015

Say hello to another Tory victory, then, given the Liberals have never HAD any plan for the economy.

I don't know about that, it seems like the CPC is trying hard to steer the conversation away from their economic record.

On Guard for Thee · April 1, 2015

Say hello to another Tory victory, then, given the Liberals have never HAD any plan for the economy.

Yeah we can see the Tory plan for the economy. Its all right there in that.....ah where is that budget paper, I thought I had it.....wait now.

Smallc · April 1, 2015

I don't know about that, it seems like the CPC is trying hard to steer the conversation away from their economic record.

Their record is fine. They don't control the price of oil.

On Guard for Thee · April 1, 2015

Their record is fine. They don't control the price of oil.

Fine...if you dont mind an endless string of growing deficits combined with wasteful government spending. The price of oi has been down for a few months.

jacee · April 1, 2015

I don't know about that, it seems like the CPC is trying hard to steer the conversation away from their economic record.

Ya they need another 'terrorist' attack to help them with that.:/

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cybercoma · April 1, 2015

Their record is fine. They don't control the price of oil.

They do control putting all of their eggs in one basket and ignoring the rest of the economy though.

Smallc · April 1, 2015

Fine...if you dont mind an endless string of growing deficits combined with wasteful government spending. The price of oi has been down for a few months.

Growing....shrinking...almost the same.

Edited April 1, 2015 by Smallc

Keepitsimple · April 1, 2015

They do control putting all of their eggs in one basket and ignoring the rest of the economy though.

We've been through all this before. Oil is not the largest contributor to our GDP - only 3rd or 4th......and Quebec has a balanced budget - in no small part due to cheaper gas and oil. While Alberta is in a bit of a fix, other provinces - and Canadians in general are getting a lot of relief. When it's all added up, I'm not sure what the net result will be.

cybercoma · April 1, 2015

We've been through all this before. Oil is not the largest contributor to our GDP - only 3rd or 4th......and Quebec has a balanced budget - in no small part due to cheaper gas and oil. While Alberta is in a bit of a fix, other provinces - and Canadians in general are getting a lot of relief. When it's all added up, I'm not sure what the net result will be.

Canadians are getting a lot of relief? Under the Conservatives we've had 15 months of job growth below 1%. That's the worst it has ever been outside recessions in as long as they've been keeping records on it (40 years). That's not relief. That's a complete and utter failure when it comes to creating an incentive for creating jobs and growing the economy. You've got to have blinders fastened on pretty tight to still buy into the lies that the CPC are job creators and strong fiscal managers.

Mighty AC · April 1, 2015

Hence the need for distractions like C-51.

Smallc · April 1, 2015

We've been through all this before. Oil is not the largest contributor to our GDP - only 3rd or 4th......and Quebec has a balanced budget - in no small part due to cheaper gas and oil. While Alberta is in a bit of a fix, other provinces - and Canadians in general are getting a lot of relief. When it's all added up, I'm not sure what the net result will be.

You can tell the Conservatives are favouring Ontario because of the auto bailout and the numerous grants given to Ontario manufacturers. All of this while giving almost nothing to the oil industry in Alberta. I'm sure that's what he meant.

poochy · April 1, 2015

You can tell the Conservatives are favouring Ontario because of the auto bailout and the numerous grants given to Ontario manufacturers. All of this while giving almost nothing to the oil industry in Alberta. I'm sure that's what he meant.

But that only happened in the real world.

Topaz · April 1, 2015

I hope the GTA votes against Harper but I have my doubts and therefore it will be another 4 longgggggggggggggg years.

jacee · April 2, 2015

Hence the need for distractions like C-51.

Can't be ignored.

It's a fundamental principle of data gathering that personal information can only be used for the purpose for which it was gathered. Bill c-51 blows that away.

http://www.cantechletter.com/2015/03/bill-c-51-is-more-concerning-than-cisa-says-mozilla/

The open-ended internal information-sharing exceptions contained in the bill erode the relationship between individuals and their government by removing the compartmentalization that allows Canadians to provide the government some of their most private information (for census, tax compliance, health services, and a range of other purposes) and trust that that information will be used for only its original purposes. This compartmentalization, currently a requirement of the Privacy Act, will not exist after Bill C-51 comes into force, he said.

Ben-Avie says the bill will give Canadian intelligence agencies CSIS and CSE access to significant amounts of Canadian government information and will empower them to conduct practices such as taking down websites and introducing malware.

Mighty AC · April 2, 2015

Can't be ignored.

It's a fundamental principle of data gathering that personal information can only be used for the purpose for which it was gathered. Bill c-51 blows that away.

Agreed, it's a horrible bill. I'm just saying the Harperites are hoping it draws the conversation away from their economic record. It's the job of the sane majority to make sure the spotlight shines on all of their lies and BS arguments.

cybercoma · April 2, 2015

You can tell the Conservatives are favouring Ontario because of the auto bailout and the numerous grants given to Ontario manufacturers. All of this while giving almost nothing to the oil industry in Alberta. I'm sure that's what he meant.

You're living in a fantasy world. The auto industry has all but entirely left Ontario, while Harper has been spending tax dollars promoting oil to the US in a failed bid for Keystone. But hey, we already knew that. Just like your fantasy world where there's no such thing as racism or sexism and everyone is equal. Edited April 2, 2015 by cybercoma

Keepitsimple · April 3, 2015

But hey, we already knew that. Just like your fantasy world where there's no such thing as racism or sexism and everyone is equal.

Isn't that what Canada is aspiring to be? Why do you call it a fantasy world? It might take another generation or two to reach our lofty goals but to say it's a fantasy world is a defeatist attitude that is contrary to those aspirations. The battle against intolerance is an incremental one - one small step at a time. That's why it's so important to maintain a reasonable discussion about reasonable accommodation. Everyone gives a little bit - over time. Does that really sound like a fantasy world?

Edited April 3, 2015 by Keepitsimple

PrimeNumber · April 3, 2015

Isn't that what Canada is aspiring to be?

Prior to Harper, yes. Under Harper, no.

Keepitsimple · April 3, 2015

Prior to Harper, yes. Under Harper, no.

I can see that you're a deep thinker.

drummindiver · April 3, 2015

Are you seriously okay with secret warrants, document grabbing when they see fit and planting secret monitoring devices like we're in Russia?

Charles Anthony apparently doesn't mind the Ontario Liberals having no warrant entry. Which is, of course, the worst kind of entry. As long as beloved Liberals are doing it, I guess.