guyser Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 The police should've surrounded the nearby reserve and not allowed anyone to leave or enter until they learn to behave themselves. create open air prisons. If the Native people cannot behave themselves in our society they should be removed from it and kept on their reserves. Maybe that way the rest of us can get on with our lives.Hi Maybe before you post again you can go and read this thing,not really all that important, just explains what rights are and ya know....that kind of stuff. The stuff you dont know about? K? Here it is.... http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/const/page-15.html Quote
LemonPureLeaf Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 Hi Maybe before you post again you can go and read this thing,not really all that important, just explains what rights are and ya know....that kind of stuff. The stuff you dont know about? K? Here it is.... http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/const/page-15.html Natives aren't part of Canada. That's why they can build casinos. That's the reason the natives give anyhow. So if they aren't part of Canada they have no rights under the Constitution either. They cannot have it both ways. They cannot claim to be apart from Canada then claim to be protected by its rights. Trying to have cake and eat it too. Quote
guyser Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 Natives aren't part of Canada. That's why they can build casinos. That's the reason the natives give anyhow. So if they aren't part of Canada they have no rights under the Constitution either. They cannot have it both ways. They cannot claim to be apart from Canada then claim to be protected by its rights. Trying to have cake and eat it too.Wow....you put that in writing? Yikes. Anyhow, that link is still there, do yourself a favour (avoid embarassment too) and go read that link. Oh and by the way , a visitor to canada has the same rights as you do....whether here for an hour a day a month or forever. Quote
cybercoma Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 Bull. That's not the way Canada especially has operated for a very long time. That has no place here.You have a very skewed perspective on our history. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 Natives aren't part of Canada. That's why they can build casinos. That's the reason the natives give anyhow. So if they aren't part of Canada they have no rights under the Constitution either. They cannot have it both ways. They cannot claim to be apart from Canada then claim to be protected by its rights. Trying to have cake and eat it too. Duh. We have casinos all over bc that are not run by natives. Perhaps you will recall when PQ was threatening to separate, the native population in the province said ya you go ahead, we are staying a part of Canada. Maybe go bully the Parti Quebecois and leave Native Canadians alon. Quote
jacee Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 This burns me. Harper shows his colours on this one. What is he afraid of? Canadians. . Quote
LemonPureLeaf Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 Canadians. . Terrorists are trying to kill us every day. Our government needs to protect us from that threat. I don't care if it's foreign or domestic terrorism. It all must be stopped. Blowing up a pipeline is terrorism. Blocking a road during a protest is terrorism. Setting off bombs is terrorism. Killing our soldiers is terrorism. I hope all people are arrested and are jailed for a long time. Maybe we will have peace on the forum if that happens. THis law is passing and there is nothing you can do about it. Just like the new sex ed. So get used to it. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 Terrorists are trying to kill us every day. Our government needs to protect us from that threat. I don't care if it's foreign or domestic terrorism. It all must be stopped. Blowing up a pipeline is terrorism. Blocking a road during a protest is terrorism. Setting off bombs is terrorism. Killing our soldiers is terrorism. I hope all people are arrested and are jailed for a long time. Maybe we will have peace on the forum if that happens. THis law is passing and there is nothing you can do about it. Just like the new sex ed. So get used to it. It will pass because Harper has a majority. Luckily for Canadians we have the SC to protect our rights. Quote
PIK Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 It is true natives say they are not canadian so screw them. They need to be put in place and get on with looking after their people instead of stealing and asking for more. They want to play games so can we. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
overthere Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 It is true natives say they are not canadian so screw them. They need to be put in place and get on with looking after their people instead of stealing and asking for more. They want to play games so can we. We did put them in a place long ago. It was called a 'reserve'. It has not worked out well. Was there another place you wanted to put them? It's a big country. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
jacee Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 It will pass because Harper has a majority. Luckily for Canadians we have the SC to protect our rights. It will take a extraordinary courage and a lot of money to be those challenging the anti-terror law all the way to the Supreme Court. And they will be people who first have their constitutional rights and their minds and bodies violated by being arrested, incarcerated and harshly 'interrogated' by CSIS in secret for 7+ days. It's not ideal, to say the least. What would be ideal is if enough Canadians of all political persuasions emailed their MP'S and the Senators for their province to request that Bill C-51 be referred to the Supreme Court for a ruling before it becomes law. It will cost us a lot of public money for the government to fight the court challenges, and for public defenders for those whose rights are violated. We can save a lot of our money by making them do it right from the get go. . Quote
Keepitsimple Posted February 25, 2015 Author Report Posted February 25, 2015 We did put them in a place long ago. It was called a 'reserve'. It has not worked out well. Was there another place you wanted to put them? It's a big country. Off the reserve. Join the rest of us. Apartheid should have died in South Africa....but it's still alive here in Canada....self-imposed Apartheid. Quote Back to Basics
LemonPureLeaf Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 It will take a extraordinary courage and a lot of money to be those challenging the anti-terror law all the way to the Supreme Court. And they will be people who first have their constitutional rights and their minds and bodies violated by being arrested, incarcerated and harshly 'interrogated' by CSIS in secret for 7+ days. It's not ideal, to say the least. What would be ideal is if enough Canadians of all political persuasions emailed their MP'S and the Senators for their province to request that Bill C-51 be referred to the Supreme Court for a ruling before it becomes law. It will cost us a lot of public money for the government to fight the court challenges, and for public defenders for those whose rights are violated. We can save a lot of our money by making them do it right from the get go. . If you're worried about being arrested then don't break the law. It's really quite simple. Quote
GostHacked Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 Natives aren't part of Canada. That's why they can build casinos. That's the reason the natives give anyhow. So if they aren't part of Canada they have no rights under the Constitution either. They cannot have it both ways. They cannot claim to be apart from Canada then claim to be protected by its rights. Trying to have cake and eat it too. I'll give this an 8/10. Not the best troll job I've seen, but it's up there. Quote
jbg Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 I have never once voted Conservative - not once. My vote is never a sure thing. See above as to their willingness or not to drop something. We're on the same page. I never have voted Conservative. Where we differ is that I definitely won't in the future. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jacee Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 We're on the same page. I never have voted Conservative. Where we differ is that I definitely won't in the future. Because you are not Canadian. . Quote
jacee Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 If you're worried about being arrested then don't break the law. It's really quite simple.No it isn't.A thousand people who didn't break the law were incarcerated in inhumane conditions at the Toronto G20 FOR NO REASON. . Quote
LemonPureLeaf Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 No it isn't. A thousand people who didn't break the law were incarcerated in inhumane conditions at the Toronto G20 FOR NO REASON. . They were told to stay away, they didn't listen so they deserve what they get. Quote
Smallc Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 You have a very skewed perspective on our history. Our recent history? Any recent political change has come in a peaceful manner and generally lawful manner. Quote
guyser Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 They were told to stay away, they didn't listen so they deserve what they get.Again, havent read that Charter thingy yet ? Obviously not with a reply like yours. Why do you want to piss on everyones rights? Ignorance or lack of education? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 Oh I think Lemon is capable of being right up there with the Capt. He's threatening me by msg already. . Moi aussi. Quote
jbg Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 Because you are not Canadian. . True. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
cybercoma Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 Our recent history? Any recent political change has come in a peaceful manner and generally lawful manner.Gay marriage? Pot reforms? Abortion? Assisted suicide? How about other nations: Arab Spring? Come on. All major political change comes from disobeying laws and often times violence. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 Moi aussi x's 2 I guess we are marked men! Quote
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