Keepitsimple Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 Adding to the ongoing turnaround in Conservative support is a surprising uptick in the number of women supporting the Tories - at laest according to the last Ipsos Reid survey. It seems that Laureen will be playing a more strategic role in the upcoming campaign. She's been content to give generously of her time to various charities and good causes - especially as they relate to animals - and all very quietly behind the scenes. She's obviously very smart, telegenic and from everything that I've seen, really a very nice person. I was aware that she was a technology geek and had her own web business - but I was unaware that one of her first jobs was as a welder's assistant. Couple all that with riding a motorcycle - and you've got a pretty complex, well-rounded woman. Having all these strengths more visible on the campaign trail may very well cause women to think "If this well-rounded, intellectual woman - and mother....married Stephen Harper - then maybe he's not the evil dictator that his opponents make him out to be". An uptick of 3 or 4% in women voters - who typically relate more to the LIberal Party - could make a huge difference on election day. Link: http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/01/20/24-questions-in-four-minutes-we-may-have-just-seen-the-first-of-the-tories-laureen-harper-strategy/ Quote Back to Basics
Michael Hardner Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 Having all these strengths more visible on the campaign trail may very well cause women to think "If this well-rounded, intellectual woman - and mother....married Stephen Harper - then maybe he's not the evil dictator that his opponents make him out to be". It "may" do that... or they "may" think... she "may" be more than I thought she was... then vote for Elizabeth "May". Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Keepitsimple Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Posted January 22, 2015 It "may" do that... or they "may" think... she "may" be more than I thought she was... then vote for Elizabeth "May". That's very droll - but quite clever! Quote Back to Basics
The_Squid Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 A popularity contest between spouses to garner votes? That seems rather silly. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 That's very droll - but quite clever! Well... just because Marleen wriggles out of her handcuffs and makes it into the daylight once in awhile doesn't mean that Harper is less of a serial killer in the minds of reasonable Canadian voters. Of course all of this is flippant sarcasm, but in the world of image marketing who knows ? I expect that less informed voters confuse Harper with that Dexter guy on TV. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Topaz Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 Harper said once in an interview that she was is prime advisor and seeing how his party has ruled, with the scams and scheme and bribes, I'll pass. We only see her when she's on a plane going some where with the PM. Quote
Smallc Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 Harper said once in an interview that she was is prime advisor and seeing how his party has ruled, with the scams and scheme and bribes, I'll pass. You wouldn't be slightly biased on that point, would you? Quote
Remiel Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 If Laureen Harper wants to muck around in politics she can run for office. Otherwise she should try to remember that she is a nobody in our system. Quote
Topaz Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 Well, its true , she also a reformed Alliance Conservative right? Quote
Keepitsimple Posted January 23, 2015 Author Report Posted January 23, 2015 If Laureen Harper wants to muck around in politics she can run for office. Otherwise she should try to remember that she is a nobody in our system. She doesn't have to "muck around". Much like The First Lady, she has the opportunity to be seen as a modern woman who supports her spouse as a husband and a person.....and not get into discussions on politics. I raised the thread to discuss the possibility of her increased visibility having an impact on the voting intentions of women. I think there's a tremendous opportunity for an uptick there - traditionally a strength of the Liberals. Quote Back to Basics
Remiel Posted January 23, 2015 Report Posted January 23, 2015 The spouse of the Prime Minister is nothing like the First Lady of the US. The latter has been formally ruled by the courts to be a de facto Federal official.http://www.nytimes.com/1993/06/23/us/court-rules-that-first-lady-is-de-facto-federal-official.html Quote
CTKShadow Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 She doesn't have to "muck around". Much like The First Lady, she has the opportunity to be seen as a modern woman who supports her spouse as a husband and a person.....and not get into discussions on politics. I raised the thread to discuss the possibility of her increased visibility having an impact on the voting intentions of women. I think there's a tremendous opportunity for an uptick there - traditionally a strength of the Liberals. I agree that Laureen Harper has the potential to cause an uptick in voting intentions for the CPC. However, I don't think she will make a material difference in how the election plays out for the CPC, for two reasons. First, if a voter thinks Steven Harper is an evil dictator after 9 years in power, Laureen Harper isn't going to change that. Where Laureen will help the CPC vote is there may be a few people who are disillusioned CPC supporters that might get out to vote (when they otherwise would have stayed home) because of Laureen. This may translate into a few extra seats in swing ridings, but is unlikely to bridge a gap between minority and majority territory. Second, and more importantly, how the election plays out will likely be determined by three major factors that at this time are unknowns: How domestic and international security plays out between now and the election, the leader's debates, and the platform of the LPC. If tensions significantly escalate with ISIS and/or Ukraine, this will benefit the CPC (rightly or wrongly, they are widely perceived to be strongest on this file). If there are no further major attacks (or minor attacks within Canada), this will benefit the LPC (or NDP). The English leader's debates are where Justin Trudeau will either surprise with a strong performance, hold his own, or get skewered by Mulcair. The first two will shore up LPC support and likely result in a LPC minority, whereas the last will likely cause the LPC/NDP vote to split as well as increased CPC turnout causing another CPC majority. Lastly, the details of the LPC platform will either undermine or vindicate the CPC narrative that Justin Trudeau doesn't have a plan. At the end of the day, Justin Trudeau needs to present a reasonable platform once the writ drops, hold his own in the English debates, and hope that nothing happens that justifies a ground war. If that happens, he will get a strong minority, and if not the CPC will get either a minority or majority depending on how bad things get. Laureen Harper won't change any of that. As an aside, Stephen Harper won't ask the GG to go to the polls early unless there is a major international terror attack. If there is, he will go to the GG to ask to head to the polls immediately seeking a mandate for a significantly increased role in the Middle East. If there is no major attack, he will wait until October, as the longer he waits the greater the chance there will be an attack. Please don't misunderstand me; I'm not saying Harper is hoping for an attack, I'm just saying he will take advantage of one if it happens. Quote
PIK Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Notice how trudeaus wife is not seen or heard form and there is a reason for it. The last thing I heard her mention was her confusion ,that she was not sure at her age if she should call her self hot or a cougar. She will be another Maggie. I guess that is the type of women the trudeau's like, dumb. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
guyser Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Notice how trudeaus wife is not seen or heard form and there is a reason for it.A TV personality.....LOL! Oh pik, thanks for the laughs. Quote
PIK Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Where is she? Does she have a show? But still you never see her with trudeau. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
guyser Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Where is she? Does she have a show? But still you never see her with trudeau.LOL...keep em coming. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Im sure this will sway voters. http://pm.gc.ca/eng/video/24-seven-exclusive-laureen-harper-answers-24-questions Quote
PIK Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Answer the question guyser. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
guyser Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Answer the question guyser.What question ? Theres a question here? Come one.....youre writing comedy sketches arent you ? Quote
PIK Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Mrs Harper is not afraid to get her hands dirty. The formers wives of PM ,did not seem that way at all. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
PIK Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 What tv does she do. I don't watch CBC , so is that where she is. Now answer it. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
On Guard for Thee Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Mrs Harper is not afraid to get her hands dirty. The formers wives of PM ,did not seem that way at all. Who really cares, we dont vote for PMs spouses. Quote
guyser Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 What tv does she do. I don't watch CBC , so is that where she is. Now answer it.There is no question mark in your post so I dont think there is a question being asked. But to stop you from further being clueless , why not just look it up yourself instead of your constant asinine bon mots that seemingly never hit the mark, hit another mark you were never aiming at or just plain miss altogether? The wife of the PM has no official duties . She is only a public figure. No more no less. The past have a few who did great work for their causes, Aline Chretien, Mila Mulroney and now Laureen Harper . Some were not comfortable in the spotlight at all and preferred to be very deep background. Sheila Martin and Geills Turner . Good to go now pik? Thanks for the earlier laugh tho. Quote
Keepitsimple Posted February 2, 2015 Author Report Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) Who really cares, we dont vote for PMs spouses. But women may take notice. The point of this thread was that women have a powerful voice in electing our government. The Liberal Party has traditionally bested the Conservatives when it comes to women.....but the recent Ipsos poll showed that Harper was squeezing ahead of the Liberals. If Laureen Harper becomes more visible - and women like what they see, it's just possible that Harper might pick up a few percentage points - directly from Liberal territory.....hence the thread title that poses the potential for her to be a "Difference Maker". Edited February 2, 2015 by Keepitsimple Quote Back to Basics
On Guard for Thee Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 But women may take notice. The point of this thread was that women have a powerful voice in electing our government. The Liberal Party has traditionally bested the Conservatives when it comes to women.....but the recent Ipsos poll showed that Harper was squeezing ahead of the Liberals. If Laureen Harper becomes more visible - and women like what they see, it's just possible that Harper might pick up a few percentage points - directly from Liberal territory.....hence the thread title that poses the potential for her to be a "Difference Maker". Sounds a bit Kumbaya to me. I want to vote for soeone because I agree with their policies, not whether they prefer tea or coffee. Quote
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