Argus Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 Sure it is. After what happened in France apparently. Good grief. "I know what I'd like to do to her" is not the same as "This is what I'm going to do to her." Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 Those men who were truly stupid enough to post sexist and abusive comments in a public forum, gave up their right to privacy, and, arguably, the right to be trusted with the tools of their trade. Feel sympathy, if you must, for years of hard work potentially thrown away. In the end, when the facts are laid out, we may be thankful they outed themselves before anyone had to call them “Dr.” Because they revealed that they were heterosexual and lusted after women. Oh the horror! Oh the humanity!! Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 This is exactly what folks are stating. No, it's not. What you are saying is they need to be kicked out of school and banned from practicing medicine. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 The fb posts are about violent rape threats. What is it you don't get? Uhm, that they weren't about violent rape threats. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 I don't have a Dalhousie student handbook nearby, but I can guaran-damn-tee that it contains a code of student conduct that forbids creating a hostile or threatening environment for fellow students. What about doing so by accident, unintentionally, through something not done at the university? And do you think the handbook would suggest they should immediately desist in that behaviour or does it say they should be destroyed at once? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
jacee Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) It is the fault of the narrow minded lynch mob who are upset that an administrator did not immediately satisfy their demands for a hanging.Unh unh unh ... no hanging anymore.Just hang em by the balls for a wee while, I say. Personally, the fact that the administrators attempted to follow a proper process makes Dalhousie look good.Anybody has the right to go to police and to participate - or not - in the restorative justice process. All the university cares about is looking like they're doing something, keeping it private and covering up.. . Edited January 10, 2015 by jacee Quote
Argus Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 What a naive statement. Processes like this in places like that are about covering asses and managing liability, not justice or protection. How do you punish people when the complainant is anonymous? How does an accused respond to anonymous accusations? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
jacee Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) How do you punish people when the complainant is anonymous? How does an accused respond to anonymous accusations?Hunh?The complainants aren't anonymous. Their pics were posted with the violent rape threats. Just the perps are unknown. . Edited January 10, 2015 by jacee Quote
jacee Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) What about doing so by accident, unintentionally, through something not done at the university? And do you think the handbook would suggest they should immediately desist in that behaviour or does it say they should be destroyed at once? Yes that. Accident my butt. Don't be ridiculous. They posted as DDS student 'gentlemen' 2015. The women are their classmates. Are you at all aware of the facts of this case? . Edited January 10, 2015 by jacee Quote
jacee Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 "I know what I'd like to do to her" is not the same as "This is what I'm going to do to her." Both are threatening. . Quote
Smallc Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) Both are threatening. . Then pretty much all men are threatening. Edited January 10, 2015 by Smallc Quote
cybercoma Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 Everyone should be treated with dignity and respect. In this case that means following the process as designed Except for women who are threatened with sexual violence. You've worked overtime here in this thread to disregard the indignity and the disrespect with which they were treated. Quote
cybercoma Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 Then pretty much all men are threatening. Not all men are as painfully stupid as those DDS students, thankfully. Sadly people like you are willing to defend men who publicly muse about raping women who could have been your own family. Quote
Smallc Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 They should never have made it public. They shouldn't be punished for what's in pretty much everyone's head. Quote
Smallc Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 Except for women who are threatened with sexual violence. You've worked overtime here in this thread to disregard the indignity and the disrespect with which they were treated. No one said it was respectful. It certainly wasn't threatening. Quote
cybercoma Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 Riiiight. The problem is that they made it public. Don't bother thinking about the implications of someone with that kind of mentality having access to unconscious women as part of their medical practice. You can sit here and say everyone has these scumbag fantasies, but it's not true. Some people actually, believe it or not, respect others. Quote
Smallc Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 Nearly every man has that mentality. That's kind of the point. Most of us arent politically correct to the point of repressing our sexuality. Quote
jacee Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 They should never have made it public. They shouldn't be punished for what's in pretty much everyone's head. They are punished because it was public and posted as threats against specific women pictured. . Quote
Smallc Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 They weren't threats. There was no intent or talk of intent. Quote
jacee Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) They weren't threats. There was no intent or talk of intent.It was threatening. Examples include, "Bang until stress is relieved or unconscious (girl)" and "Can you tell me what this chloroform smells like?" . Edited January 10, 2015 by jacee Quote
Smallc Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 That's not a threat directed at someone. You don't seem to understand what it is. Quote
jacee Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 That's not a threat directed at someone. You don't seem to understand what it is. I'd like to see a police/Crown opinion on that. . Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 That's not a threat directed at someone. You don't seem to understand what it is. Right, so we should all listen to you and other posters here, and disregard this whole issue. Because, apparently, most people weighing in on this issue are totally misled and do not 'get' the humour and harmless postings of these 4th year university students. Right, I get it now. Let's put these targeted women back in the classrooms with their male colleagues who threatened to chlorofoam and rape them. And of course, let's let these very same men, graduate and treat young women with dental procedures after chloroforming them. I get it now. Why is it that the majority of people who have weighed in on this issue (I mean outside of this forum) disagree with you and yet, these very same people 'don't seem to understand what it is'. Do you and other posters on this thread know more then everyone else? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Smallc Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 Apparently so. I used to be as politically correct as you. I came to understand the character flaw that comes from pretending the truth doesn't exist. These men were threatening no one. They were engaging in what is and should be private male social behaviour. Their biggest crime is letting it into the public sphere. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted January 10, 2015 Report Posted January 10, 2015 Apparently so. I used to be as politically correct as you. I came to understand the character flaw that comes from pretending the truth doesn't exist. These men were threatening no one. They were engaging in what is and should be private male social behaviour. Their biggest crime is letting it into the public sphere. I'm not being politically correct nor or others weighing in on this. That is such an easy way out to say that 'we are being politically correct'. We are standing up for the rights of these women and working to draw attention to such destructive thinking. And quite frankly, I'm done with debating this issue. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
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