Mighty AC Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Maybe your arms are attached differently than most peoples. Go listen to the press conference with Dr. Baden once agian. He and his partner quire cearly discuss how the arms are quite moblei limbs and therefore in this scenario one can not conclude which way you are facing when shot in the arm. It's fairly simple and obvious but take thier words for it, they are the experts. I am just reiterating what they say. This witness, Piaget Crenshaw, saw Brown running away with Darren Wilson chasing and shooting. She says Brown was not hit until he stopped and turned to face Wilson, where he was immediately gunned down. http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/08/18/newday-intv-ferguson-shooting-crenshaw.cnn.html Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
Derek 2.0 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Maybe your arms are attached differently than most peoples. Go listen to the press conference with Dr. Baden once agian. He and his partner quire cearly discuss how the arms are quite moblei limbs and therefore in this scenario one can not conclude which way you are facing when shot in the arm. It's fairly simple and obvious but take thier words for it, they are the experts. I am just reiterating what they say. No, if I have arms at my side, my thumbs are inverted forward.........exposing a different portion of my arms........To have my arms exposed forward as you suggest, would see my thumbs pointing towards my body........Who stands like that? A monkey perhaps Do you walk like a monkey? Quote
Argus Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Half of all crime that is caught is by black people. It makes a pretty big difference when mass murderers are conceived of as fallen genius weirdos, while a black kid with a pack of skittles and an iced tea is a thug "nigger". The suspects are described as black in a hugely disproportionate number of cases, as well. And I really don't get your belief that society was the least bit sympathetic to Holmes, who I guess you're talking about. Everyone wanted his head. As to Brown, he'd be a thug no matter what his skin colour was. The only difference is if he was a white thug you wouldn't be falling all over yourself trying to defend him. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Neither justifies applying a COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT like tear gas! to a crowd of people legally and peacefully exercising their rights to freedom of expression and association!! Consider the people out there at midnight as enablers. You can't have the looting or violence without them. Their presence protects the looters and violent. They need to reimpose a curfew then the cops should move in and bust heads and arrested EVERYONE they find on the street at midnight, including the media. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) Note the wounds, then raise your arms up by your head. Notice the grouping of the shots. I will say Brown did have his arms raised. Except the wounds would be on the opposite side of the arm then... Edited August 20, 2014 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 While you're pondering "everything that makes sense", ask yourself what makes sense about a teenager deciding, suddenly and without provocation, to physically assault a police officer. Not a lot until you find out he's a bullying thug who just robbed a store... Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Michael Brown graduated from high school and applied to and was accepted into college like many other millions of teenagers and was pursuing his passion for music. And like him, many other teenagers get into trouble with petty theft, possession of marijuana and other misdemeanor incidents. No teenager deserves to be gunned down and have their life cut short because of a minor petty theft of $50 worth of cigars. How about if he jumps on a cop and starts pounding him in the face? Yeah, yeah, kids will be kids, right? You probably did the same kinda thing when you were young! Heck, didn't we all beat up a few cops when we were bored? You know, in between robbing stores? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Black Dog Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Posted August 20, 2014 Not a lot until you find out he's a bullying thug who just robbed a store... And that made him suicidal somehow? Quote
Argus Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Once again, the wounds don't conclude which way Brown was facing. Given they all hit him from the front I think we can conclude he was facing the officer. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) So you're saying black people need to fix the discrimination they face? Uh. What? It's kind of a vicious circle. They face discrimination, but most of it isn't because people don't like Black skin. it's mostly because of their actions, as a group, which makes other races wary of them. And yes, that discrimination then feeds into them being poorer and into them committing more crime and violence. Edited August 20, 2014 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 And that made him suicidal somehow? No, that made him decide he could grab the cop, pound him senseless, and then get away. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Given they all hit him from the front I think we can conclude he was facing the officer. Not conclusive. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 No, if I have arms at my side, my thumbs are inverted forward.........exposing a different portion of my arms........To have my arms exposed forward as you suggest, would see my thumbs pointing towards my body........Who stands like that? A monkey perhaps Do you walk like a monkey? I don't think like one. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 This witness, Piaget Crenshaw, saw Brown running away with Darren Wilson chasing and shooting. She says Brown was not hit until he stopped and turned to face Wilson, where he was immediately gunned down. http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/08/18/newday-intv-ferguson-shooting-crenshaw.cnn.html It also casts some doubt onto the report of injury to the officer. He doesn't seem to be nursing anything serious in the moments directly after the shooting. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 I don't think like one. I never suggested otherwise........so, do you stand or walk with your thumbs turned inward? Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 It also casts some doubt onto the report of injury to the officer. He doesn't seem to be nursing anything serious in the moments directly after the shooting. Then why did he go to the hospital? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 I never suggested otherwise........so, do you stand or walk with your thumbs turned inward? Here, read what the experts have to say and get back to me. Bottom line, inconclusive. http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_26357749/michael-brown-autopsy-shot-six-times-inconclusive-whether Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Here, read what the experts have to say and get back to me. Bottom line, inconclusive. http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_26357749/michael-brown-autopsy-shot-six-times-inconclusive-whether Have they suggested Brown was shot from the back, in a raised right arm, turned around, and was shot several times from the front? If not, why do you suggest as such? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Have they suggested Brown was shot from the back, in a raised right arm, turned around, and was shot several times from the front? If not, why do you suggest as such? If you can read, and I assume you can, it says they can't be sure which way he was facing, or where his hands were from the injuries. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Personally, I think Dorian Johnson will revamp his story somewhat once the ballistics and autopsy (complete autopsy) comes back. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Derek 2.0 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 If you can read, and I assume you can, it says they can't be sure which way he was facing, or where his hands were from the injuries. Where does it confirm you your suggestion that Brown was shot from the back, turned around, and was shot from the front? Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Personally, I think Dorian Johnson will revamp his story somewhat once the ballistics and autopsy (complete autopsy) comes back. I agree....is Johnson in custody for the robbery? Quote
Black Dog Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Posted August 20, 2014 No, that made him decide he could grab the cop, pound him senseless, and then get away. I swiped a porno mag from a drugstore when I was 17 and that thought never crossed my mind thereafter. Your ability to read the minds of dead people from thousands of miles away is pretty spectacular though. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Why is it so unfathomable that a 6'4 300 dude that just robbed a store by simply throwing the clerk aside could've tried the same with a cop, yet it's unquestionable that a 6 year cop with no former disciplinary actions unloaded at an innocent guy who was running away - for no apparent reason? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Black Dog Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Posted August 20, 2014 Why is it so unfathomable that a 6'4 300 dude that just robbed a store by simply throwing the clerk aside could've tried the same with a cop, yet it's unquestionable that a 6 year cop with no former disciplinary actions unloaded at an innocent guy who was running away - for no apparent reason? Because a cop, sitting in his car, with a gun at his side, is a bit of a different scenario than a small middle aged unarmed shop owner? Quote
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