How Trudeau is winning my vote

[On Guard for Thee]

And he answered questions on the Sunday Edition. And he actually was clear about things. What a breath of fresh air after Harper's twiting and turning.

[Smallc]

He has the same views on many of these things as Harper. He's as much of a hawk but far more social liberal, and that's why Harper is probably toast.

[Argus]

He has the same views on many of these things as Harper. He's as much of a hawk but far more social liberal, and that's why Harper is probably toast.

Harper isn't going to lose because of his social views. If he loses, it will be because of the perception he is an arrogant control freak who despises anyone who disagrees with him.

The irony is that Trudeau is already exhibiting the same behaviour patterns, but his pretty face makes people not care so much.

[dre]

Harper isn't going to lose because of his social views.

I wouldnt be so sure. The Harper government has attempted to push through some particularly nasty legislation, that Canadians just dont want. Things like upping the anti on soft drug prohibition, and various attempts to erode interest privacy, etc. They attempted to sneak through C30, and when Canadians told them to stuff it up their ass, they called us all pedophile supporters. Canadians are also sick of the CPC wasting money trying to push through bills that they know full well violate the constitution and will be struck down by the court.

Make no mistake about it... The Convervative party has a lot more problems than Harpers leadership style.

[jacee]

Meh, Ezra comes off as a lowlife again, but who cares? The general public is unaware and uninterested in the story. Seems the only people that have noticed are those previously unfamiliar with Canada's slimy, little Limbaugh and Cons grasping at straws.

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I think M. LeRant has toasted himself this time.

He may never make a mistake like that again,

but with no credibility in any decent society now, his 'editorializing' rants are now utterly useless.

Can't say I'll miss him.

Meanwhile, the CPC refuses to answer questions, lies about troop requests and secretly signs trade deals most Canadians would be disgusted by. Hmmm, I wonder why the country is tired of this regime?

It's looking that way.

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Edited September 29, 2014 by jacee

[PIK]

He has the same views on many of these things as Harper. He's as much of a hawk but far more social liberal, and that's why Harper is probably toast.

http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/09/28/the-best-revenge-is-living-well

Harper nailed it with his speech. Harper is the best leader we have and trudeau and mulcair are so out of touch with what is going on. They have no ideas or solutions.

[Argus]

http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/09/28/the-best-revenge-is-living-well

Harper nailed it with his speech. Harper is the best leader we have and trudeau and mulcair are so out of touch with what is going on. They have no ideas or solutions.

You know, even if what you say is true, and I wouldn't argue against it, that does not suggest Harper is actually a GOOD leader. In my opinion, the best which can be said is he's the best of a bad lot.

[cybercoma]

You know, even if what you say is true, and I wouldn't argue against it, that does not suggest Harper is actually a GOOD leader. In my opinion, the best which can be said is he's the best of a bad lot.

Tough to say. I think Mulcair has proven during Question Period to be a fantastic leader. He's very direct with his questions, which has embarrassed the executive branch. Please note that I didn't say the Conservatives because I believe it's up to the backbenchers to hold the executive accountable during Question Period as well. Really it's just the government. Mulcair has very clearly highlighted how terrible they are. The problem is that it's benefitting Trudeau. He needs to find a way to get people to vote for his party and I don't think there's anything the NDP can do to make that happen. People are just too stubborn and still believe that there's only 2 parties in this country.

Edited September 29, 2014 by cybercoma

[PIK]

You know, even if what you say is true, and I wouldn't argue against it, that does not suggest Harper is actually a GOOD leader. In my opinion, the best which can be said is he's the best of a bad lot.

Time to give harper the credit he deserves. Enough of the MSM talking pts, harper is a world class leader. I prefer tough leaders ,not someone that wants to be your friend.

[The_Squid]

Tough to say. I think Mulcair has proven during Question Period to be a fantastic leader. He's very direct with his questions, which has embarrassed the executive branch. Please note that I didn't say the Conservatives because I believe it's up to the backbenchers to hold the executive accountable during Question Period as well. Really it's just the government. Mulcair has very clearly highlighted how terrible they are. The problem is that it's benefitting Trudeau. He needs to find a way to get people to vote for his party and I don't think there's anything the NDP can do to make that happen. People are just too stubborn and still believe that there's only 2 parties in this country.

Well said.

[PIK]

Tough to say. I think Mulcair has proven during Question Period to be a fantastic leader. He's very direct with his questions, which has embarrassed the executive branch. Please note that I didn't say the Conservatives because I believe it's up to the backbenchers to hold the executive accountable during Question Period as well. Really it's just the government. Mulcair has very clearly highlighted how terrible they are. The problem is that it's benefitting Trudeau. He needs to find a way to get people to vote for his party and I don't think there's anything the NDP can do to make that happen. People are just too stubborn and still believe that there's only 2 parties in this country.

A fantastic leader because he is a good speaking, a lot more to leading then sounding like prosecutor. He would lead this country to ruin.

[cybercoma]

A fantastic leader because he is a good speaking, a lot more to leading then sounding like prosecutor. He would lead this country to ruin.

What has Harper done to lead it out of ruin? He has kept it in ruin so he can continue to run on a fear-mongering platform that only the CPC can manage the government in "tumultuous economic times."

[The_Squid]

What has Harper done to lead it out of ruin? He has kept it in ruin so he can continue to run on a fear-mongering platform that only the CPC can manage the government in "tumultuous economic times."

Harper can thank Liberal economic policies.... but then he went and implemented some Conservative policies and made things worse!

True, Mr. Harper has not raised taxes. He hasn’t had to. The heavy lifting, when it comes to shrinking federal expenditures as a share of the Canadian economy, was set in motion under Jean Chrétien and Paul Martin. All Mr. Harper has done is push the cruise control button.

Mr. Harper has played the same subsidy game, too. He has maintained a slew of Liberal regional and industrial development slush funds – and created new ones of his own, including the Federal Economic Development Agency for Southern Ontario. That’s on top of his Automotive Innovation Fund and Sustainable Development Technology Canada.

And remember, this Prime Minister blocked the purchase of Potash Corp. by a capitalism-practising Australian company but embraced the purchase of Nexen Inc. by a Chinese state-owned corporation.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/look-closely-us-conservatives-harpers-not-a-new-thatcher/article20806046/

[jbg]

http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/09/28/the-best-revenge-is-living-well

Harper nailed it with his speech. Harper is the best leader we have and trudeau and mulcair are so out of touch with what is going on. They have no ideas or solutions.

That appears to have been a great speech.

You know, even if what you say is true, and I wouldn't argue against it, that does not suggest Harper is actually a GOOD leader. In my opinion, the best which can be said is he's the best of a bad lot.

Both of our countries are replete with bad or mediocre leaders. It's the people and natural beauty that make our countries, not bureaucrats sitting in DC or Ottawa.

[dre]

A fantastic leader because he is a good speaking, a lot more to leading then sounding like prosecutor. He would lead this country to ruin.

Thats extreme hyperbole, and it shows a lot of ignorance in how government even functions. Leaders are not supposed to be subject matter experts. They are supposed to be to clearly articulate ideas and surround themselves with the right people.

Its certainly possible that he wont be a good leader, and the reality that for the most part governments are at the mercy of circumstance and luck.

But I certainly dont see anything about JT that would preclude him from being a good prime minister.

[dre]

What has Harper done to lead it out of ruin? He has kept it in ruin so he can continue to run on a fear-mongering platform that only the CPC can manage the government in "tumultuous economic times."

Well in Harpers defense, he has at least had pretty conventional economic policy. Harper reacted to the economic meltdown with same kind of policies all the other western leaders did... he bailed out banks, eased credit etc. He had a much smaller problem to deal with, but he at least deserves some credit for sticking with the predictable keynesian approach to recessions and not doing anything crazy. I think the governments reaction was steady, and he did was the markets expected of him.

[cybercoma]

What has that done? All of the growth has gone to the top 1% and there's only so much consumption they can do.

[On Guard for Thee]

Unfortunately he also extended tax benefits to benefit mostly his business cronies at completely the wrong time and thereby made the meltdown worse. He is just now getting back to a surplus after melting down the one he was handed from Paul Martin. Really, if you enjoy a Harper speech you need to get out more. What's he up to now? Oh yeah, sticking us with a 350k bill to fly his EU buddies home after popping yet MORE champagne corks on a trade deal that is STILL not ratified. And of course sending his bum boy out to further degrade question period to a new low.

[PIK]

What has that done? All of the growth has gone to the top 1% and there's only so much consumption they can do.

BS The middle class has done well under harper , don't listen to JT has to say about it. And his trade deals are already paying off. The more the better. Like his speech at the UN about world economies. The man has really grown into a statesmen. And that is why he is hated so much by the left, they felt he would fail ,but he proved himself as a great leader. Respect by others. Something JT will never have. World leaders will just shake their heads if Canada goes with him.

[PIK]

Harper can thank Liberal economic policies.... but then he went and implemented some Conservative policies and made things worse!

Muldoons government set it up for the liberals to look good. And anyone could have done martin's job. It was good times, but people seem to forget the down loading and the EI fund he took from and the PS pension fund. Like I said anyone could have done that.

[PIK]

Thats extreme hyperbole, and it shows a lot of ignorance in how government even functions. Leaders are not supposed to be subject matter experts. They are supposed to be to clearly articulate ideas and surround themselves with the right people.

Its certainly possible that he wont be a good leader, and the reality that for the most part governments are at the mercy of circumstance and luck.

But I certainly dont see anything about JT that would preclude him from being a good prime minister.

Harper can sit down and talk shop with anybody, JT handlers will have to handle meetings with other leaders, JT has shown he knows squat when it comes to the world or economics.

[cybercoma]

BS The middle class has done well under harper

You can have your own opinion, but you don't get your own facts. Almost all of the economic growth since 2008 has gone to the top 1% and even within that 1% the majority of their take went to the top 10% of that 1%. Harper has helped some very specific Canadians get richer, but has done nothing for the broader economy. In fact, he has made things worse and stifled recovery with his policies.

[cybercoma]

Harper can sit down and talk shop with anybody

Sure he can. Is that why they strictly control the media on the campaign trail and give scripted talking points to completely unrelated questions? It's like you're living in a fantasy world that has no basis in reality.

[On Guard for Thee]

You beat me to the punch CY. Could anyone have more poorly timed a comment attesting to Harper's ability to sit and speak anywhere, outside of his talking points?

[PIK]

Sure he can. Is that why they strictly control the media on the campaign trail and give scripted talking points to completely unrelated questions? It's like you're living in a fantasy world that has no basis in reality.

I am talking about dealing with world leaders on world problems, not the MSM that deserves what they get from him. And again, JT will embarrass this country big time on the world stage. Just look at what little he has said so far, wait until he is forced to speak. It will be major face palms in this country.