guyser Posted July 30, 2014 Report Posted July 30, 2014 To understand by POV you have to understand that I consider all dogmatic belief systems to be religions - even if there is no deity involved. Wow..just wow. So... like the analytics whiz kid just hired by the Leafs...or Moneyball? So my tithe is buying tickets to games, my redemption is a win?....is a loss kinda like hell? Cue the church lady...."how convenient" You change the meaning of a word to fit your thesis. Nice try. Choose your words more carefully next time. Every secular state has a myriad of irrational rules which exist only because they reflect community values. For example, plastic recycling is a economically irrational activity yet people will be shamed and/or fined if they refuse to participate. Why is this any different from requiring a pro-forma consultation with a Rabbi before marriage?utter fail Go open a store in Tel Aviv on saturday, or apply for a civil marriage. Like ive said many times today, it doesnt really matter if they are a theocracy or a full on democracy. It is what it is, and by looking at it without prejudice...its a semi -democracy. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Posted July 30, 2014 Trudeau is nothing but a name - that's it. The Liberals know (we all do - just look at Obama) that it's not about politics, it's about the cult of celebrity and the libs know that their best chance next election is to put forward a recognizable name. The US elected a man president because he was black, next they'll elect Hillary because she's a woman. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Argus Posted July 30, 2014 Report Posted July 30, 2014 http://www.torontosun.com/2013/08/31/canada-sent-millions-to-syrian-rebels There is nothing in that cite which supports the statement Canada gave money to Islamists, which was your original claim. Please see my response to Moonbox. But here is another source. http://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2013/12/09/canada_makes_territorial_claim_for_north_pole.html The Harper government insisted that the Canadian scientists alter science to fit their desire to claim the north pole for political reasons. That is not what your own cite says. It says the mapping was incomplete and they asked that it be completed. Furthermore, negotiating positions are often staked out which are beyond what a country or entity actually hopes to gain. It is a relatively normal tactic to claim more and then 'compromise' down to what you want. Refusal to recognize any possible situation in which Crimea, Donentsk and Luhansk can democratically chose via a referendum to become independent of Ukraine. Not just under the questionable circumstances of the recent referendum, but under any situation. Obviously Russia is being hypocritical here as well (they would never allow for a Chenchnyan referendum). Certainly the referendum taken already was a joke. A referendum under Soviet Russian auspices is not really going to be free anyway. And I can understand why Harper would refuse to consider a referendum in territories the Russians have been deliberately stirring up and flooding with agitators, intelligence people, troops and money. Russia never invaded Ukraine. They did invade South Ossetia in 2008, but that is about it. They invaded Crimea and they've invaded Eastern Russia. They are firing artillery across the border, and the people in charge of the 'separatist' groups are Russian intelligence officers. There's also plenty of information which says those operating artillery and anti-aircraft missile batteries Russia shipped into Ukraine are, in fact, Russian military personnel. With respect to unnecessarily antagonizing, I mean we have unnecessarily unfriendly relations with Russia for no good reason, which will harm both our countries and won't help the people of Ukraine. Putin is a vile, murderous thief. Why do you believe we should have good relations with him? We should have no trade whatever with Russia, and any company which invests in Russia is so stupid they deserve to go bankrupt when the Russians inevitably seize their assets. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Bonam Posted July 30, 2014 Report Posted July 30, 2014 Certainly the referendum taken already was a joke. A referendum under Soviet Russian auspices is not really going to be free anyway. There are no Soviets. Join the 21st century bro. Quote
Argus Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 There are no Soviets. Join the 21st century bro. Putin has described the fall of the Soviet Union as the greatest geopolitcal tragedy of the 20th century (worse than ww 1 or ww2). Since he's been in office he has been setting about rebuilding the Soviet Union. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 Can people get married without the consent of a Rabbi? How about working on the Sabbat? http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=18487 Can't get married and can't get buried. Quote
overthere Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 Putin has described the fall of the Soviet Union as the greatest geopolitcal tragedy of the 20th century (worse than ww 1 or ww2). Since he's been in office he has been setting about rebuilding the Soviet Union. Yep, and the Russian people love him for it. He is doing pretty well so far. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
On Guard for Thee Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 Trudeau is nothing but a name - that's it. The Liberals know (we all do - just look at Obama) that it's not about politics, it's about the cult of celebrity and the libs know that their best chance next election is to put forward a recognizable name. The US elected a man president because he was black, next they'll elect Hillary because she's a woman. So the American electorate are all nothing but a bunch of dupes? Or is this just a bit of trying to soften the landing for Harper next year? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 So you looked up the definition and etymology of the word. That's adorable. Good for you! Too bad it's still a terrible word to describe Harper's foreign policy, which, if nothing else, often breaks from the UN consensus. In case you're still not sure about platitudes, read through this article. It is dripping with them, and it's only one speech! http://www.globalresearch.ca/canadas-harpers-speech-in-the-israeli-knesset-not-in-my-name/5365941 Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 So the American electorate are all nothing but a bunch of dupes? Or is this just a bit of trying to soften the landing for Harper next year? On question #1, Yes!, The Americans know it too - Are they smart enough to not make the same mistake? I doubt it!....#2 - I don't need to soften anything. If Trudeau wins, it'll become one of the worst days ever for Canada. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 On question #1, Yes!, The Americans know it too - Are they smart enough to not make the same mistake? I doubt it!....#2 - I don't need to soften anything. If Trudeau wins, it'll become one of the worst days ever for Canada. I don't know, I think I, and a lot of Canadians, wouldn't mind getting back into Liberal surplus budgets for a while. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 I don't know, I think I, and a lot of Canadians, wouldn't mind getting back into Liberal surplus budgets for a while. Plus, JT is pretty sexy..... Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
dre Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 On question #1, Yes!, The Americans know it too - Are they smart enough to not make the same mistake? I doubt it!....#2 - I don't need to soften anything. If Trudeau wins, it'll become one of the worst days ever for Canada. What silly hyperbole. If the liberals won its unlikely that government policy would even change much. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
WestCoastRunner Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 What silly hyperbole. If the liberals won its unlikely that government policy would even change much. If the liberals win, it can be said that it is true that women think with their vaginas and they came out in a united front to vote in the sexy man. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
On Guard for Thee Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 Plus, JT is pretty sexy..... Hey, nothing wrong with having a sexy Prime Minister. It worked for his dad. And we are due for something beyond utterly boring talking points (platitudes) that nobody's listening to anymore. Well almost nobody. And maybe the pot revenue will allow the government to hire back a few scientists instead on depending the divinity of the CAMA religion to fix everything we put askew. Quote
Remiel Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 Whether or not you like it, it's more effective to take principled positions and stick to them than it is to spout platitudes and be ignored. Supporting Israel and spouting platitudes are not mutually exclusive. Not by a desert league. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 If Trudeau wins, it'll become one of the worst days ever for Canada. It may be one of the worst days in Canada for you but not everyone. "Forum has the Grits at 44 per cent support, followed by Stephen Harper's Tories at 28 per cent and Thomas Mulcair's NDP at 18 per cent. Trudeau has the highest approval rating of the main three federal leaders at 46 per cent, followed by Mulcair at 40 per cent and Harper at 33 per cent." Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Remiel Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 Not exactly... Its the belief that it should exist on a certain piece of land (Eretz Yisrael... the land that they think their fake god promised them), and thats the problem... that land encompasses the occupied territories and israel, and more. Historical Zionism was not dead set on Israel. It existed for many years before that state, and Herzl, the father of Zionism, proposed other possibilities (I think one was land in Argentina). Only since the Jewish state came to, in fact, be located on Eretz Israel does it seem like that is what Modern Zionism is. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 I suspect people can see the desperation behind, and frankly are pissed off with, Harper's attack ads on Trudeau. It has worked for him before, but it seems like that's all he's got. And it seems to be backfiring this time around. Quote
Remiel Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 The cross is a very common geometric shape, so not necessarily religious. The Scottish and Jamaician flags have crosses, but these crosses are not religious. You do know that the Flag of Scotland is often called St. Andrew's Cross, right? Quote
Remiel Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 If Harper wins another majority "Canada" as a country worth praising or one that is unified by common institutions is done for. He likes to go on about Putin (and I do not disagree that Putin is a <insert expletive here>), but the irony is that Harper has more in common with Putin that most other Western leaders. He regards the state and its institutions as his to do with as he pleases. Quote
TimG Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 but the irony is that Harper has more in common with Putin that most other Western leaders. He regards the state and its institutions as his to do with as he pleases.Harper is like every PM that Canada has ever had. The only reason liberals don't notice is past Liberal PMs tended to do things that they agree with. Quote
-1=e^ipi Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 There is nothing in that cite which supports the statement Canada gave money to Islamists, which was your original claim. Every rebel group has islamists in it. Therefore giving money to rebels means giving money to islamists. That is not what your own cite says. It says the mapping was incomplete and they asked that it be completed. Furthermore, negotiating positions are often staked out which are beyond what a country or entity actually hopes to gain. It is a relatively normal tactic to claim more and then 'compromise' down to what you want. Look, the Harper government is just using the 'incomplete mapping' as an excuse to claim the North Pole. There is more than sufficient information to know that it is not Canadian territory. As for being a normal tactic, just because it is normal does not mean it is right nor in the best interests of Canada. The West's position has weakened substantially over the past decade due to utter hypocracy. Let's not give more legitimacy to China's absurd territorial claims but instead work with our allies (ex. Denmark) to ensure fair territorial claims are established to ensure peace. Certainly the referendum taken already was a joke. A referendum under Soviet Russian auspices is not really going to be free anyway. And I can understand why Harper would refuse to consider a referendum in territories the Russians have been deliberately stirring up and flooding with agitators, intelligence people, troops and money. Red Herring. I agree that the Crimean referendum was a bit of a joke. However, no western leaders would recognize the results of any Crimean referendum under any circumstances (especially Harper), as far as they are concerned it is Ukrainian territory and has no right to self determination. The truth is that even under more fair circumstances, the Crimean's would have most likely voted to separate from Ukraine. They invaded Crimea and they've invaded Eastern Russia. Right... If you really think this then you have been deluded by the western media. Why do you believe we should have good relations with him? We should have no trade whatever with Russia, and any company which invests in Russia is so stupid they deserve to go bankrupt when the Russians inevitably seize their assets. Really? What did he steal? Who did he kill (well he was in the KGB so you never know...)? We shouldn't have unnecessarily good relations with Russia. Especially not over issues like Syria or Ukraine where the West is being completely hypocritical. No trade with Russia? What protectionist nonsense is this? What will a trade embargo accomplish? The cold war is long over and Russia has a lot better human rights than many of our 'allies' (such as Saudi Arabia). Quote
BC_chick Posted July 31, 2014 Author Report Posted July 31, 2014 If the liberals win, it can be said that it is true that women think with their vaginas and they came out in a united front to vote in the sexy man. Are you just trying to poke at the CPC supporters or do you really believe this? Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
-1=e^ipi Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 Putin has described the fall of the Soviet Union as the greatest geopolitcal tragedy of the 20th century (worse than ww 1 or ww2). Since he's been in office he has been setting about rebuilding the Soviet Union. He's not trying to rebuild the soviet union. Trying to rebuild some sort of neo-russian empire, sure. But not the soviet union. Quote
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